Sword Saint vs Fist of the North Star - Kenshiro vs Hinata

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Been wanting to make this match for a while, but it's slipped my mind.

Speed equal.

Death or incap.

Saint Hinata.

Pre-Lifted Seals Kenshiro.

Sakaguchi Hinata (Light Novel):



Kenshiro (Hokuto no Ken):

 

[SpookyShadow]

Can she beat Muso Tensei?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Absolutely not, but she can see it coming with analytical prediction.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Ken also has precog though.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Hinata resists it.

 

[SpookyShadow]

I don't see it on her profile

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

It's not? Huh. Alrighty, lemme add it real quick, CRT of course.

 

[SpookyShadow]

If she resists Analytical Prediction, I don't think it's the same as Ken's precog, he straight up sees future

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Does Ken resist analytical prediction?

 

[SpookyShadow]

Not only that, he resist Precog itself

 

[SpookyShadow]

Resistance to the following: Poisons (Can endure 5 times the lethal dose of potassium cyanide. Also resist paralytic gas and even stated to be resistant to all natural poisons), Heat (Has tanked fire from a barrage of flamethrowers and touched lava with his bare hands), Chi Draining (After interacting with the Hokuto Soke stone, he learned how to keep Kaioh from draining his ki), Precognition/Clairvoyance (Users of the Hokuto arts can bend their fates as they choose, making it difficult to read their destinies)

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

On what scale? Hinata was able to fight Rimuru with his own analytical prediction that could see every possibility of an attack, and whatever it could predict was destined to hit+1M times thought reaction speed+his own analytical prediction he got from training against Hakurou.

 

[SpookyShadow]

I don't remember the series that good (I actually stopped reading manga in halfway) but he can bend his own fate so might be hard to precog him.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

But he has nothing to do with casualty, she's literally just predicting where he might be via analysis. I don't see a resistance to that, or Info Analysis.

 

[SpookyShadow]

If I remember correctly Muso Tensei is thought based, so can she precog it? Battle is donezo if he uses it, he can erase her from existence easily in that state.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I mean, it's likely. She can also harm souls and bind them.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Ken in Muso Tensei is basically in state of non-existence and nothingness, I don't know if Non-Physical by harming souls is enough for that. Not to mention much more of his wall of text abilities.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

She has Usurper to see and gain knowledge on if Kenshiro is a big enough threat, so it's likely she can use Melt Slash and conceptually destroy him.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Would that happen before he EE's her?

 

[DMUA]

Absolutely not, but she can see it coming with analytical prediction.

If they can't actually deal with Kenshiro phasing out of existence they aren't really going to be able to kill him

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I mean, she has conceptual destruction that works on AE Type 1.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Hitting abstracts=/=hitting nonexistents

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Not sure how either of them touch each other then.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

In that case, Kenshiro probably take this via better stamina

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Hold on, would Usurper work on Kenshiro?

 

[GLHF22]

Analytical prediction =/= Hax based Precog, also i don't see non-existence physicology in His profile.

 

[GLHF22]

Musō Tensei: The ultimate technique of Hokuto Shinken. Only through embracing the true nature of sorrow can one use it; Kenshiro was the first in the 1,800 years of Hokuto Shinken to master it. When used, Musō Tensei allows Kenshiro to achieve "nothingness", becoming intangible, allowing him to erase opponents from existence and communicate with the souls of dead rivals and use their techniques. With Musō Tensei, even when in a coma, Kenshiro can fight as just his soul.

He just become intangible, not become the non-existence itself.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

This was discussed before. It was supposed to be nonexistent physiology

 

[GLHF22]

If it was accepted in CRT then sure add it.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

"With Musō Tensei, even when in a coma, Kenshiro can fight as just his soul." - This phrase les me to believe that Hinata can affect him because Kenshiro is fighting as a soul

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Yeah, so I believe Hinata should be able to hit him with multiple techniques.

 

[DMUA]

It's not really physiology so it wasn't listed as such. It's just turning into nothingness

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

And can't conceptual destruction counteract that?

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

I don't think that matter since Hinata can steal abilities with a thought. Hinata steals abilities in general so it will work on Muso Tensei.

 

[SpookyShadow]

And I guess before that Ken erases her from existence

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

How does it work and how fast is it?

 

[SpookyShadow]

If I remember correctly he just needs to snap his fingers

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Yeah he gets nulled quick because Usurper is Info Analysis+Power Null by a thought and she starts with that

 

[Schnee_One]

If she can't affect non existents that's moot

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Doesn't conceptual stuff work?