TenSura LN Revision — Details on the Otherworld

[Hecky2222]

Viet bro, tensura fans bullying you. Debunk them for this

 

[Cipher72]

Someone was asking why Tensura threads are staff only coughs

 

[Azertyhuuh]

I don't know what the thread creator is waiting for to close the thread and apply the revisions. It already received enough approvals, and he can do it. Even the staff member whose opinion is being awaited right now said himself that his presence is not important since the thread already has enough approvals.

I recommend simply closing this thread since it already has 3 approvals from admins on top of that.

 

[Mizuki67]

I don't know what the thread creator is waiting for to close the thread and apply the revisions. It already received enough approvals, and he can do it. Even the staff member whose opinion is being awaited right now said himself that his presence is not important since the thread already has enough approvals.

I recommend simply closing this thread since it already has 3 approvals from admins on top of that.

Hmm yeah but it is still better to wait for vietthai not that is necessary tho

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

I don't know what the thread creator is waiting for to close the thread and apply the revisions. It already received enough approvals, and he can do it. Even the staff member whose opinion is being awaited right now said himself that his presence is not important since the thread already has enough approvals.

I recommend simply closing this thread since it already has 3 approvals from admins on top of that.

Because the more staff the better
+ If a staff already said they will give their thoughts later, there's no harm in waiting a bit more for them

 

[KingTempest]

This looks fine

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

Now we will wait for Vit to say he agrees and then we will close the topic.

 

[Nonynho]

I'd like to see my name in the agree list as well

 

[ExcelsisBerny]

It doesn't matter if they are called "above Goku", they are not beating Goku

 

[Re5yh]

It doesn't matter if they are called "above Goku", they are not beating Goku

If someone is above Guko, they are probably getting negged before High 1-A+ upgrade.

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

Where is Vietthai96?

 

[Robo432343]

Now we will wait for Vit to say he agrees and then we will close the topic.

No
You don’t need to wait for viet sama

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

No
You don’t need to wait for viet sama

Robo, can you vote?

 

[Robo432343]

Robo, can you vote?

I agree
Now I will use my admin powers and apply this thread

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

I agree
Now I will use my admin powers and apply this thread

Can you punish Vietthai96 ?

 

[Vietthai96]

Sorry, real life work and other stuff had carried me away, anyway

It was also about space tho

Partially yes

And from method 2 of the CRT, the Otherworld at least contains a higher dimensional place beyond 4D, so it should upscale from that too.

The higher-dimensional battle statement? Ngl, that statement is kind of not really relevant, either it is to hype about a battle between powerful being which is used a lot in Japanese verses or even it is literal, kind of you already have Otherworld being a realm that contains multiple Low 2-C structures so it possess additional axis due to standard anyway.

Kind of a statement that is fine to have it or not have it

Also, I think the part about visuals can be used to show the significance of the Otherworld, as "spheres of light" that a character can compare to in size, in a space that would be universal in size in their eyes, shows that those spheres are insignificant compared to the whole of the "Otherworld".

Can't find this kind of statement in the scan?. Where is this "sphere of light" thing?

Edit:

Suiimu originally swims through the interstellar space of a vast otherworld, even more expansive than a realm that contains countless universes

Is this "vast otherworld" the (capital) Otherworld or something else?. Cause that interstellar space statement is kind of jarring here that could go against the notion of the Otherworld being a space that separate 4D universes

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

anyway

So, do you agree?

 

[Humanitus_Primevilus888]

Sorry, real life work and other stuff had carried me away, anyway

It’s fine

Can't find this kind of statement in the scan?. Where is this "sphere of light" thing?

The spheres of light is probably in the Image that shows white spot in there, and Rimuru return from the end of space-time/otherworld( black background)

 

[Mido02]

Even that is nothing more than symptomatic treatment, and at this rate, it will eventually disappear…

"Here, you know, it seems that even time itself isn’t flowing."
"Hah?"
"Eh?"

That was the answer to Laplace’s earlier question. Even Yuuki himself was not confident, but there was no other way to explain it except by thinking so.

"Hmm, I realized it after observing for a long time, but you saw that rainbow colored sphere over there swell up and disappear earlier, right? I think that is probably one world, a universe."

"A universe?"
"One world..."

Inside that sphere, time is flowing. It seems that, as an aftereffect of that, a flow of time is generated in the surrounding area as well, but it can’t be observed… Strictly speaking, time was flowing. However, since there was no means to observe it, Yuuki judged from circumstances such as his own level of fatigue and the fact that he did not become hungry, and inferred that time is not flowing, or that it is flowing extremely slowly.

Yuuki could not interfere with information particles, nor was it possible for him to observe them. Therefore, everything was speculation, but fully displaying his genius, he had arrived at the correct answer. Even so, since there was no means of returning, it was meaningless…

"Then, is one of those rainbow colored spheres of light the world we were in?"

"I don’t think so. I think those are derivative worlds. From the generation of the spheres of light to their end, everything is uneven. Even considering the observable amount of energy, it was thought that the spheres of light observable here were places unrelated to the world Yuuki and the others
had been in."
V22C3
The sphere of light

 

[Vietthai96]

The sphere of life is probably in the Image that shows white spot in there, and Rimuru return from the end of space-time/otherworld( black background)

Ngl, after seeing it, i don't think it is really matter, i don't think those light actually mean the universes, kind of we are guessing author intention using vague foundation anyway, but it is kind of supporting thing so it is fine to either have or not have it, not really matter

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

Ngl, after seeing it, i don't think it is really matter, i don't think those light actually mean the universes, kind of we are guessing author intention using vague foundation anyway, but it is kind of supporting thing so it is fine to either have or not have it, not really matter

Hah? it's universes!
Read the cosmology blog

 

[Mido02]

Ngl, after seeing it, i don't think it is really matter, i don't think those light actually mean the universes, kind of we are guessing author intention using vague foundation anyway, but it is kind of supporting thing so it is fine to either have or not have it, not really matter

Read my post above

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Even that is nothing more than symptomatic treatment, and at this rate, it will eventually disappear…

"Here, you know, it seems that even time itself isn’t flowing."
"Hah?"
"Eh?"

That was the answer to Laplace’s earlier question. Even Yuuki himself was not confident, but there was no other way to explain it except by thinking so.

"Hmm, I realized it after observing for a long time, but you saw that rainbow colored sphere over there swell up and disappear earlier, right? I think that is probably one world, a universe."

"A universe?"
"One world..."

Inside that sphere, time is flowing. It seems that, as an aftereffect of that, a flow of time is generated in the surrounding area as well, but it can’t be observed… Strictly speaking, time was flowing. However, since there was no means to observe it, Yuuki judged from circumstances such as his own level of fatigue and the fact that he did not become hungry, and inferred that time is not flowing, or that it is flowing extremely slowly.

Yuuki could not interfere with information particles, nor was it possible for him to observe them. Therefore, everything was speculation, but fully displaying his genius, he had arrived at the correct answer. Even so, since there was no means of returning, it was meaningless…

"Then, is one of those rainbow colored spheres of light the world we were in?"

"I don’t think so. I think those are derivative worlds. From the generation of the spheres of light to their end, everything is uneven. Even considering the observable amount of energy, it was thought that the spheres of light observable here were places unrelated to the world Yuuki and the others had been in."

Literally, the spheres of light are mentioned at the beginning of method 1.

 

[Vietthai96]

Read my post above

Oke i guess, i will wait for Astral to answers the rest of my question before voting

Edit: no need for multiple peoples to jump on me at the same time, just Astral or one other in case he is not available to answer, one at a time

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

The higher-dimensional battle statement? Ngl, that statement is kind of not really relevant, either it is to hype about a battle between powerful being which is used a lot in Japanese verses or even it is literal, kind of you already have Otherworld being a realm that contains multiple Low 2-C structures so it possess additional axis due to standard anyway.

Kind of a statement that is fine to have it or not have it

True enough, I suppose. But I put it there just in case someone still things Otherworld won't be higher dimensional compared to the worlds

Can't find this kind of statement in the scan?. Where is this "sphere of light" thing?

It's at the end of method one. The spoiler box might have glitched out for you, so try zooming your screen in and out. That usually fixed the issue

Additionally:

• Universes/Worlds are born in the Otherworld at different places. You can be near one world (or the place where it was born), and you can see another world in the distance, but you can't trace the path between them. These worlds can also be in the form of Light rays instead of spheres, (one ray=one universe) making geometric shapes akin to snowflakes. It means they can extend in different axes.
• Visually, we have Rimuru's illustration while in the End of Time/Space (Otherworld) how it looks like, in that there are light spheres and rays spread around randomly but away from each other. In the Anime, we also get a glimpse of it while Rimuru is crossing worlds, and we see various structures in the Otherworld (you can see the episode here. Timestamp is 6:00 to 6:40. The link may not work for some because MuseAsia is only accessible in asia, but for reference its season 1 episode 1). There are also light particles floating in the Otherworld, so so many of them, but I'm not sure if they refer to spheres of light/worlds or are just visual effects. 50/50 on that.

So we see that Worlds are very clearly separated by an additional axis. This is keeping in mind that they expand faster than light, and yet they never overlap nor intersect despite also being parallel.

Edit:

Is this "vast otherworld" the (capital) Otherworld or something else?. Cause that interstellar space statement is kind of jarring here that could go against the notion of the Otherworld being a space that separate 4D universes

1. Otherworld is a general term, not a name. The capitalization or not is just arbitrary choice of translations. It has the same kanji 異界 throughout the entire novel,which in-verse is localized as Otherworld, so we just stick to that.

2. Regarding the interstellar part, in the same statement it is still something that's vaster than Universes, and that Suimu travels a universal distance in-between to go to these "interstellar" nations to destroy them. I think Fuse just didn't have a better way to call them.

They could also alternatively be referring to the spheres of light that from the outside could look like stars (p.s., they're not, it's just universes seen from the outside)

Suiimu originally swims through the interstellar space of a vast otherworld, even more expansive than a realm that contains countless universes. Its maximum combat speed reaches sub-light speed, and by leaping through space through Otherworld Gates, which are generated as naturally as breathing, it has annihilated innumerable interstellar nations, being nothing other than a natural disaster itself. An Otherworld Gate is a type of Transfer Gate, a spatial transfer intended for ultra-long-distance movement on a universe-scale.
Source
V23C2

ALTERNATIVELY, it could also refer to the civilizations that live in the Otherworld itself, living on floating lands of condensed Magicules, which ig could also refer to Interstellar:

In this other world, there was no such thing as gravity. There was no concept of “earth” or of “heaven,” making it quite similar to outer space in a way. All that existed in this empty space were objects composed of condensed magicules. These objects were as strong as magisteel—strong enough to generate their own powerful gravitational force, which was why they were turned into bases.
The mystics, as former angels, used these bases for habitation—so they could live as they did in their key world and not forget what life under the force of gravity was like. Obela’s base, comparable in size to an asteroid, was the stronghold for their anti-Ivalage efforts; its strength was unrivaled, and it was one of the most important parts of the mystics’ overall living space.
OTL
_________
In the Otherworld, there is no such thing as gravity. It is similar to outer space in that there is no concept of earth and sky. There are only objects made of condensed magicules scattered throughout the empty space. Such objects were as strong as magisteel, and generated powerful gravitational forces, so they were processed to be used as ‘bases’. The former angels, the Phantoms, used such bases to live a life similar to one in the Cardinal World, so as not to forget their lives in a gravitational field. The base of Obera, which was comparable in size to an asteroid, was the frontline base against Ivarage. Its strength was unrivaled by any other bases and was one of the most important facilities for the Phantoms. Michael jumped towards that base.
Slimereader
Volume 19, Prologue

Aaaand it's not like a 5D space cannot have these structures. As long as it's 5D + separates space-times, and is significant in size, that's all that matters. The author can insert a flying octupus in that space or a stellar civilization

Edit: no need for multiple peoples to jump on me at the same time, just Astral or one other in case he is not available to answer, one at a time

Taking it slowly eh? ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

Is this "vast otherworld" the (capital) Otherworld or something else?. Cause that interstellar space statement is kind of jarring here that could go against the notion of the Otherworld being a space that separate 4D universes

The text is clear and simple: X swims or moves through the interstellar space, and this interstellar space belongs to an otherworld. That other world is described as being larger than a structure containing countless universes. Even the Neutral Space has stars, so I do not understand how this can even be presented as some kind of argument.
It is already said that the Otherworld is the space between worlds. So whether it contains stars or not doesn't matter
Also, can I ask you to read the post before commenting?

Those spheres of light are universes. It is not a matter of whether you think they are universes or not.

Carefully reread what is clearly written in the cosmology page and the arguments in the post.

 

[DrunkMan04]

Agreed
I want my name in there

 

[AstraphelNoctis4]

Also, can I ask you to read the post before commenting?

Those spheres of light are universes. It is not a matter of whether you think they are universes or not.

Carefully reread what is clearly written in the cosmology page and the arguments in the post.

Take it easy, sis. Your message came off kinda rude. Viet told us not to jump him.

 Snip

Hey Viet, just wanted to check if you have any issues with the CRT. It already seems to have more than enough votes, so unless there’s something you still disagree with or want to discuss further (In which case, you should notify the OP), we could probably close it soon.

 

[Mizuki67]

Hey Viet, just wanted to check if you have any issues with the CRT. It already seems to have more than enough votes, so unless there’s something you still disagree with or want to discuss further (In which case, you should notify the OP), we could probably close it soon.

i dont understand why we should even close it soon.

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

i dont understand why we should close it soon.

I don't understand why it shouldn't be closed?

 

[Mizuki67]

I don't understand why it shouldn't be closed?

This is a big revision bro. Yall slime fans cant be patient. Dragonball Tier 1 thread had like more than 3 pages yall should be lucky

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

This is a big revision bro. Yall slime fans cant be patient. Dragonball Tier 1 thread had like more than 3 pages yall should feel lucky

We have 4 approvals. Do you want us to get 10 or what?
We are waiting for vit to comment.
But I don't see anything

 

[Mizuki67]

We have 4 approvals. Do you want us to get 10 or what?
We are waiting for vit to comment.
But I don't see anything

again i am not saying more than 4 staffs are necessary. You have completely missed my point. sigh Astral should have let me be the one handling this thread.

 

[Ultimuru]

Even the Neutral Space has stars

Cough cough And even galaxies as we could see when Super Shenron showed up.

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

again i am not saying more than 4 staffs are necessary. You have completely missed my point

So you want this thread to reach 7 pages at least before we close it?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I will be honest, we have 4 staff that are agreeing, 3 of them are Admins, we should just close this so we can continue with the next threads.

 

[AlexSamDen]

This is a big revision bro. Yall slime fans cant be patient. Dragonball Tier 1 thread had like more than 3 pages yall should be lucky

I don't see how any of this correlates to this thread

The grace period passed, there are enough votes

It passed quickly - that's good we appreciate it. No reason to unnecessarily prolong it, however

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

If Vitai does not comment before midnight, we will close the thread

 

[Mizuki67]

I will be honest, we have 4 staff that are agreeing, 3 of them are Admins, we should just close this so we can continue with the next threads.

I just think that it is better to just clear viet misunderstanding because the op used his/her idea

 

[Mizuki67]

If Vitai does not comment before midnight, we will close the thread

Very well then. It is not my right to stop you since you are the op of this thread but get astral approval first