Upgrading Konosuba characters through Sentouin!

[MidnightDawn1]

A small suggestion for the konosuba ap upgrade once it happens instead of changing the characters tier's we should give them a likely key for the said upgrades since the characters in konosuba have never shown any feats of those calibre especially Kazuma

Yeah seems reasonable.

Though nothing is changing about Kazuma's page sadly. We'll have to wait until The Counter Attack Of Satou Kazuma comes out, and who knows how long that will be.

 

[Popted2]

Yeah, though I think it might end up being Street Level+ and after thinking about it. Rose was hungry so there is a possibility that she was weakened

they were BOTH weakened
and Six still managed to win

 

[MidnightDawn1]

they were BOTH weakened
and Six still managed to win

Oh yeah fax.

 

[Popted2]

9-B for Six should be fine

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Can't say much about Konosuba since i have yet to read the LN, but i do agree with 9-B Six.

 

[FrenzyUND]

A small suggestion for the konosuba ap upgrade once it happens instead of changing the characters tier's we should give them a likely key for the said upgrades since the characters in konosuba have never shown any feats of those calibre especially Kazuma

I think it depends on the character, Kazuma himself isn't getting any AP upgrade, there's no reason at all to powerscale him to Lilith when he was said by the author to be weaker than Six who himself is nothing compared to Lilith, though entities from Heaven and Hell are pretty straight foward more powerful than Lilith.

 

[Antvasima]

What QuasiYuri has accepted here can probably be applied.

 

[MidnightDawn1]

So we done here?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

So we done here?

The things that Yuri accepted are fine to apply, to apply others things more supporter would need to give their approve.

After the changes are made to the profiles can finally begin the crt to speed or AP.

 

[Antvasima]

Can somebody give an explanation regarding what is left to decide here?

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Can somebody give an explanation regarding what is left to decide here?

I don't there is anything left guess someone just has to add whatever QuasiYuri accepted

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Also quick question (Kinda off-Topic sorry).

While I already know why the anime isn't considered Canon and I've accepted it. (also looking back at the thread I was pretty aggressive so I apologise if you were there).

The reasoning is that it diverges from the main storyline which makes sense.

However, the Manga doesn't do this at all with it adapting everything (as far as I'm concerned). So what's the reasoning for the manga?

 

[Antvasima]

I don't there is anything left guess someone just has to add whatever QuasiYuri accepted

Okay. Would somebody experienced here be willing to handle it then?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Okay. Would somebody experienced here be willing to handle it then?

I asked Yuri to add the things but seem like is busy so can't edit now, even so I would like to wait until is free to do the changes.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That is fine.

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Cool

 

[Popted2]

these are what Yuri has accepted

Making a "Full power" Wolbach key that scales to actual gods, with her current stuff being her "weakened" one.
Vanir should get all curses (although I'm pretty sure he already does anyway)
Possible Duplication for Hans, since it's implied that all slimes can do so, even if Hans never did himself.
Kazuma should have Extrasensory Perception thanks to Ennemy Detection
Aqua getting summoning, but giving a tier to water spirits is a no
Undead having power boost at night

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That is probably fine then.

 

[FrenzyUND]

these are what Yuri has accepted

Making a "Full power" Wolbach key that scales to actual gods, with her current stuff being her "weakened" one.
Vanir should get all curses (although I'm pretty sure he already does anyway)
Possible Duplication for Hans, since it's implied that all slimes can do so, even if Hans never did himself.
Kazuma should have Extrasensory Perception thanks to Ennemy Detection
Aqua getting summoning, but giving a tier to water spirits is a no
Undead having power boost at night

He said he had things to say about the thread that were wrong, and once he did it he never contested the time manipulation resistance that I argued for, so I assume that's accepted as well.

 

[Antvasima]

He said he had things to say about the thread that were wrong, and once he did it he never contested the time manipulation resistance that I argued for, so I assume that's accepted as well.

@QuasiYuri

What do you think?

 

[QuasiYuri]

@QuasiYuri

What do you think?

I really don't have the energy nor the motivation to correctly check all of this, so if others accepted it then ig that's fine to apply.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I was just referring to the time manipulation resistance.

 

[MidnightDawn1]

So we done here

 

[Antvasima]

If Yuri will not reply again, I suppose so. I would prefer if he does though.

 

[QuasiYuri]

After checking, I don't see what's supposed to put it as Status Effect instead of a random spell, so devils and Iris would have no reason to resist it.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the reply. I suppose that we have likely reached a conclusion here then.

 

[MidnightDawn1]

So we are done?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

So we are done?

The things were alredy applied? If no then just apply them and done.

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Also if no one minds I'll add Supernatural Willpower to Darkness page. Based of Kazuma's statement.

"Darkness has strong willpower, high magic resistance and is resistant to bad status effects."

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Or at least Minor Supernatural willpower

 

[QuasiYuri]

Also if no one minds I'll add Supernatural Willpower to Darkness page. Based of Kazuma's statement.

"Darkness has strong willpower, high magic resistance and is resistant to bad status effects."

Not enough for Supernatural Willpower.

 

[Antvasima]

The things were alredy applied? If no then just apply them and done.

Yes. Somebody needs to apply the agreed revisions first.

 

[Antvasima]

Not enough for Supernatural Willpower.

Agreed.

 

[Rez]

A better reason for supernatural willpower for darkness will be being able to resist Vanir's possession

“Fuhahaha! Fuhahaha! Listen up kid! This special power of moi, (what should I do Kazuma, my body’s been taken over!) How about it boy, if thou dare attack this girl, (I don’t mind! Don’t hold back, attack as you wish! Quickly come! This is the most wonderful situation!)”

Words that didn’t make sense came out from Darkness’s mouth.

“… What are you trying to say?”

“How can this be, what’s with this (beautiful) woman?!… Damn, damn it, don’t sneak in words and play around! But seriously, this girl’s mental tenacity is too strong… (An excellent role model of a crusader!) … Shut up!”

By right, this should be a crisis, but Darkness was handling this calmly.
By right, this should be a crisis, but Darkness was handling this calmly.

Or rather, she seemed to be having fun.

“To resist moi control, thou art a formidable opponent! (No, not really…) But if you keep on resisting my control, thou shall suffer horrible pains! (What, what did you say?!) Fuhahaha! Let’s see how long you can resist!… Huh? There aren’t negative emotions, what’s welling out from her is… Pleasure…?”
From Volume 3

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Well done. I applied what I could to the characters except for Kazuma, Faitore and Chris since it wouldn't let me for some reason. But that ends Part 1.

Get ready for Part 2 in November 1989!

 

[Rez]

A better reason for supernatural willpower for darkness will be being able to resist Vanir's possession

“Fuhahaha! Fuhahaha! Listen up kid! This special power of moi, (what should I do Kazuma, my body’s been taken over!) How about it boy, if thou dare attack this girl, (I don’t mind! Don’t hold back, attack as you wish! Quickly come! This is the most wonderful situation!)”

Words that didn’t make sense came out from Darkness’s mouth.

“… What are you trying to say?”

“How can this be, what’s with this (beautiful) woman?!… Damn, damn it, don’t sneak in words and play around! But seriously, this girl’s mental tenacity is too strong… (An excellent role model of a crusader!) … Shut up!”

By right, this should be a crisis, but Darkness was handling this calmly.
By right, this should be a crisis, but Darkness was handling this calmly.

Or rather, she seemed to be having fun.

“To resist moi control, thou art a formidable opponent! (No, not really…) But if you keep on resisting my control, thou shall suffer horrible pains! (What, what did you say?!) Fuhahaha! Let’s see how long you can resist!… Huh? There aren’t negative emotions, what’s welling out from her is… Pleasure…?”
From Volume 3

Agreed.

Is this enough for Supernatural willpower?

 

[Antvasima]

Resisting possession is not automatically grounds for it. It depends on the mental strength of the one who tried to control her.

 

[Rez]

“How can this be, what’s with this (beautiful) woman?!… Damn, damn it, don’t sneak in words and play around! But seriously, this girl’s mental tenacity is too strong… (An excellent role model of a crusader!) … Shut up!”

Resisting possession is not automatically grounds for it. It depends on the mental strength of the one who tried to control her.

This part states she resisted it because of strong mental tenacity

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, but not necessarily to a ridiculously extreme degree.

 

[MidnightDawn1]

I mean you could make the argument that Vanir has lived for at least 1,000 years. And there's no reason to believe he hadn't used the ability over the past 1,000.

And he genuinely seemed shocked but yeah I don't have much arguements