To be simpler:
Dude. Did you even read what I said. I didn't even say this.
Powers and abilities are not concepts, this is information we're talking about.
Define what these "random lore bits" are for me please. What I said about Star Seeds encompassing all forms is literally in the OP and the scans for beings having a Perfect Form of itself is just the definition of a Type 1 Concept.
The OP listing star seeds representing "all possibilities" does not mean the argument is that "Star Seeds = Concepts = Possibilities", the reason why they represent possibilities is because they encompass all forms, sizes and names. This should not be that hard to discern.
You didn't read the OP so I'm 100% sure you aren't saying this in good faith. We went over this already.
No. He was erased from existence earlier in the same Arc but his future self and Chibiusa (his daughter) was unaffected. However, the erasure of his star seed erased himself from all existence entirely which included his Future self and his Daughter. I linked something earlier in this thread about the Acausality portion.
I am quite certain that a concept that governs individually and separately "different forms of existence" but that originates and defines them, is not a concept of type 3.
In the previous thread this was already addressed and it was not a time paradox. You are also omitting that in reality, he future self (Mamoru) was not affected by Galaxia taking its Star Seed in the present (it did not destroy its Star Seed). If not it was until the cauldron erased the Mamoru Star Seed, which both he and Chibiusa disappeared, through time.
Tbh here, accusing others doesn't make your argument better
Where does the verse state, he was erased?, i keep re-reading the manga but i couldn't find any statement regarding Mamoru get erased, literally, nothing ever confirmed that Mamoru was erased, other than when his starseed got destroyed, his future self and chibiusa disappear, which was interpreted as, mamoru was EE'ed across history
Just because a personal concept being independent from what it govern, doesn't mean it is type 1, type 1 is universal concept, that mean starseed must govern all thing, not just Hotaru, or Usagi or Mamoru, when starseed get accepted, it must affect everything at once, not individually. Literally each person have different starseed such as iirc Usagi starseed is her Silver Crystal, Mamoru is the Golden Crystal, other Sailor Guardian also have their own crystal. When said starseed get affected only affect said person. When Mamoru starseed get affected, only him being the victim, same with others, that why Galaxia collect Sailor Guardian's starseed individually to corrupt them to her side
No, a type 3 concept can be independent from what it govern
Well, then I am missing something, since the type 3 section of the Conceptual Manipulation page does not say that and literally that a concept is totally independent of what governs makes that concept type 1.
Are you actually going to address what I said or what is written on the metaphysical page or you going to keep stonewalling this conversation?
Sure, let's ignore everything else I've said about powers and abilities, appearance and the example I've made with Planets. I refuse to engage with you any further, it's clear you're making me repeat myself ad absurdum. I'll wait for staff evaluation.
If you refuse to actually engage with the arguments in OP and follow the guidelines of the site, then I have no use to continuing this conversation. I will count your disagreement. Thanks for commenting.
Glassman me and OP have made their arguments.
The ones that were edited were Sailor Moon and Sailor Galaxia specifically last I checked, but you should check the Inners, Outers and Mamoru as well. This also gives us an opportunity to add actual justifications for the hax instead of whatever is on the page right now.
Well, not exactly. Starseeds give origin to all things, regardless of their name, shape or size. They can remain even if what they govern is destroyed. When Mistress 9 destroyed Hotaru's body, mind and soul, the "deeper self within her" (Sailor Saturn = her Sailor Crystal) still existed. And she was able to regenerate once she awakened as a Sailor Senshi.
The example most commonly used for Type 3 Concepts is True Names. Names that govern every aspect of something's existence, and without would result in you being erased.
Star Seeds encompass all forms, sizes, names and also beings that lack those and all of them have Perfect Forms in the Cauldron. I've spoke to a Staff member on the Perfect Form stuff and they said if the scan does say Perfect Form than it's just a roundabout way of saying Type 1. They have not asked me anything on what you seem to want from the verse, likely because it's not a standard.
Thing is, if you delete a Guardian, their existence across all of reality is gone forever. Not even Alternate Future/Dimension versions of them are safe.
I saw. That's what the link I posted explains.
I think the comment of DT Reiner posted agrees with this.
Yah I'm just clarifying that again in case that was forgotten
Okay. Thanks. I missed that in all the burst of messages. I will add it to the tally for record keeping, but the majority still holds out.
