Well, Pred's are very agile and frequently fight each other. Predators have been seen to jump up to three times their own height and are capable of jumping from one vantage point to the next like trees and rooftops. A peak Pred would have been hunting and killing the most dangerous lifeforms across many different galaxies for thousands of years, battling things like Xenos,
Gro'tye (A 15'5"+ creature which can take out entire clans),
Bhuhlagh's,
LV-1201 Chameleon's, and many more dangerous lifeforms.
Ok, based on this response, plus the fact that you are not only equating jump high = very agile but are also equating that to Yor agility, I will assume you don't know Yor agility and what I mean that her acrobatics and agility are something that the Predator likely haven't faced (correct me if wrong with scans please), this part here that I took from myself in past thread will show what I mean:
I mean, Yor the herself is also really good at dodging since she severely upscale above Fiona and is comparable to Loid, both characters who can do shit like
this while playing tennis, and she have also her own feats showing that indeed she is
quite acrobatic and able to
dodge things that would kill her, and her dodging ability is even greater when considering her
senses and instinctive action, so hitting her will be extremely hard.
And about the tennis part I want to expand adding this context to that feat:
He and Fiona, who is vastly below Yor, pulled something similar when he
just learned to play tennis after a bit of practice and then defeated while
impared by a gas two players with years of experience who had high-tech equimpent and used underhanded tricks like
shotting at him from different directions (including angles that he couldn't see), move the web, blow a strong wind to affect his throws trajectories, lower the 36 panels in the floor at the moment when he step on everything simultaneously and despite that both of them could calculate all of those variables while moving in a way that
unilateraly defeated their opponents.
And there is the justification for her acrobatics in her profile:
So just jumping high isn't anything remotely close to what Yor and characters below her can do in her series.
Also, I'm not sure why you are mentioning those creatures with completely different physiologies to Yor and that have an animalistic level of intelligence, the xenomorph I still can sort of see why they could be mentioned as the queens are apparently smart, but even then unless their IQ of 171 have show to extend to a martial arts mastery of high level then there is really no point (after all high IQ don't really correleate to martial mastery, otherwise
this persons would be martial masters instead of mostly scientifics). None of those examples of enemies Predators have defeated really works for this case against Yor because they are completely different to her both physically and mentally, if you want to mention past enemies then you would need to show cases where they defeated beings with a similar agility as her and a skill and fighting style close to her. Regarding skill here are the copy-paste explanations from posts I made in previous threads months ago (I'm just censoring the names of those past opponents):
The thing is that in cqc do to how close the opponent can get one don't see all their body simultaneously, which as result can create openings to attacks from angles where one can't see when they don't expect it, for example in
this scan here Yor made his enemy focus on the stiletto in her right hand creating this way a opening to surprise attack him with her left hand that he couldn't see, paralyze him with one hit of her pressure points and then kill him when he couldn't move, or
here in this scene where after dodging a punch she attacked the enemy with a kick from below without him noticing from a posture where one certainly wouldn't expect a kick. The point is that at close distance one don't see all the picture and instead just see a part of it, a part which one end focusing.
He also need the physical dexterity to dodge Yor attacks because while in the case of the chains he only needed to move to the sides, against Yor he need to move his body in a way that let him don't be touched by simultaneous
kicks and
attacks with her arms from someone Yor flexibility and knowledge of human anatomy, so even if he know what come thanks to his analytical prediction if his body don't have the ability to pull the moves needed then he can't dodge.
Regarding the AP advantage is true that _____ have a considerably advantage, but that don't mean at all that Yor can't hurt hit since her main weapon are sharps stilettos, with poison able to kill an elephant, that she use in a really lethal way that go directly for vital points, and even without her weapons she have her
pressure points to either
kill or
incapacitate, so she is more than perfectly capable of taking down _____ despite the AP gap with little problem.
Well, she certainly don't seem to abuse it but she seem to be able to use it in a
nice combat way, (like this one where not only the surroundings but the enemy itself also didn't noticed the small attack), and since she was trained to be stealth is certainly an option that she can use if needed, though at the end this is more a secondary argument and the main points are those I mentioned previously
The pressure points of ____ seem to rely more in use great force to damage the opponent while Yor rely more in pure tecnique as she only need
three taps from her fingertips to take down a cow or
a large man, not going to say that his is just pure brute force because one really need technique to do moves like those but definitely isn't a super refined and graceful pressure point technique like Yor who can take down in a moment her target regardless of healthy the other side can be.
I also liked this comment from
@KobsterHope07 that explain well the final fight of Boat Cruise Arc:
The difference being that unlike Robo, Yor is not bullet-proof and would be injured and even killed by getting shoot just as any human. And even if she is faster and stronger than most of opponent, the skill feat lies in fighting a large number of armed opponents at once without being hit by bullet that would incapacitated her if she isn’t skill enough to dodge/weave around them.
Although she has a much better soloing large group of highly skill assassins feat in the Boat Cruise Arc where Yor herself acknowledges that the assassins were just as skill and strong as her (could even harm/injure her), if not slightly below. Not to mention that these assassins were also capable of completely hiding themselves from her senses (to the point that they manage to surround her without her even noticing the group of like 50 people)l using weapons that she isn’t familiar with, and hiding their malice until the moment they attack, constantly keeping Yor on edge and yet she still solo (Well, she did has some assistance in Matthew but she was main target of the assassin‘s target and did 99% of the work)
Just adding that she did this after be tired from not resting for almost three days and while having a life crisis due to not knowing her reason to continue working as assassin.
And this past comment of
@First_Witch is also good:
The problem with experience is is that it is heavily tied to the skill level of said assassins. Its not much of an argument when said assassins (I dont know them so correct me) dont stack up to Yor in combat prowess. Like, Yor has more direct combat feats than she has actual stealthy assassination feats and this goes for a **** ton of SpyXFamily assassins
In the actuality of the fight, __ is just not as likely to hit her attack as Yor has. Way too many things are lined up for Yor. From higher Skill, which has both offensive and defensive application in close quarter combat, to Yor's IR to even her bloodlust sensing allowing her to feel when a attack is incoming. All of these are small advantages yeeees. But they are advantages just plainly dosnt have. And in the nature of this fight, those advantages mean life and death. __ being stronger than Yor dosnt matter much when she has reliable kill hax on her hand... Claws. This fight is a knife fight in a telephone booth and can literally end in the first strike for the both of them. In a battle where a single hit spells doom for either of them, being able to dodge succesfully a attack more than your opponent is already a deceiding factor. Like, even if I were to concede on Yor being just 1 percent more skilled than _____, thats a 1% higher chance for Yor to trade in favour against , which would be a victory for Yor. Now add Yor's IR, lets say it gives Yor a 5% higher chance to dodge attack. Thats a 6% higher success chance for Yor to win the trade. Now add another 1 Percent through Yor's bloodlust sensing, which tells her that a attack is incoming. Thats me lowballing the effectiveness of Yors abilitys here. Even if I were to concede and say ___ = Yor in skill, Yor is still slightly more likely to come out on top of a trade. And this differences matter because thats how volitaile the nature of their fight is.
Like, if this were a balls to the walls slugfest with no plasma and poison bullshit then yes, those advantages woudnt matter much at all. But it isnt. Its 2 predators armed with weapons that can end their opponent in a single scratch
So the point is, she is a very skilled fighter with a very acrobatic and agile fighting style that those opponents of Predators that you mentioned don't possess, hence why the comparison between them and Yor is simply useless are their whole deal is different.
While Pred's do abandon more advanced tech like Plasmacasters for worthy opponents they'll still use things like the
Plasma Scythe,
Plasma Glaive,
Smart Disc,
Shuriken,
Predator Mines,
Netgun, the list goes on. Also, gonna note that the Pred can use their invisibility to retreat and heal themself with things like the
Medicomp, or the
Health Shard.
She didn't had much problem facing and quickly defeating a master of the kusarigama (which although different to a scythe is similar enough) in a public situation where she couldn't let others notice they were fighting and while protecting civils (plus be tired after days without rest and her life crisis) despite the fact that she
didn't had much experience with weapons like that (that also was her first time seeing a kusarigama) , so she should be able to deal with the Plasma Scythe even considering the heat of the blade. There is no scene where she face glaive users as far I remember but she had fought people with similar weapons and is very likely that she fought glaive users in her assassin trainig or through her assassin career so the previous point should also apply. She in the Boat Cruise Arc killed a disc user (who maybe had telekinesis or something? After all it seemed that some disc were in the air by themselves) so she at least have some experience with them, they are still dangerous due to the homing ability but she can take them down by throwing things so they shouldn't be that problematic. Various of the mines seem to be more for making traps with prep and the ones that seem more for middle of combat she can dodge with her danger senses and mobility, plus she can take them down with projectiles. The Netgun is neat but she can simply dodge it or even block by throwing an object that divert it. The invisibility is just simply useless, with her senses she can feel presences, intents and things without the need of her sight so it don't actually do anything against her, so they don't have the time to treat themselves (also, the description of the things state how they are extremely painful to Predators so the moment they just use it their fighting ability will drop considerably, giving Yor a perfect chance to take).
Overall, I stand that nothing have really changed from my first post, although if others feel like changing their votes then fair enough, it's part of their right, but at least mine still stand.
