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"Your little alien toy is nothing against me, kid." | Ben 10 vs Lex Luthor

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  • Battle takes place in Metropolis.
  • Apex Predator Lex is being used.
  • Low 2-C for Luthor is in his Low 2-C key (which is 4-B, but whatever)
  • Omniverse Ben is being used.
  • Ben has access to all his forms but Alien X.
  • Equalized speed.


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Ben 10
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Lex Luthor:
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Lloydblitzed said:
Alright
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No. that's not how it works.
you need to replace the word Static with vignette
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How to post images from FANDOM on the forum

So, as most of you already know, whenever we try to post FANDOM images here, it'll show us this icon: I've found a trick to solve that problem. Apparently, you just need to change the 'static' part of the image address to 'vignette' whenever you open the image in a new tab. And the forum will...
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GeralSol16 said:

Regarding the ability itself, I don't believe so, but if he does something against Ben, at the moment the time stop ends, that will save him.
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So my vote goes to Lex Luthor since he seems to have more hax and abilities than Ben 10.
 
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jgms2008 said:
(In relation to the ability itself, I don't believe so, but if he does something against Ben, at the moment the time stop ends, that will save him.)

So my vote goes to Lex Luthor since he seems to have more hax and abilities than Ben 10.
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But so they actually affect Ben? Cuz in quantity, Ben has more and therefore he resists a lot of things.
 
Omnitrix's failsafe is about transforming Ben before he getting killed from the attack, it sensed Annihilarg's explosion which can create,set,destroy time so i don't see anything wrong with that
 
jgms2008 said:
GeralSol16



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Yes, but I still think Lex wins because he has resistance to many of Ben 10's aliens’ hax.
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Does he...? In his resistances, there's only "Time manipulation" and RW. That only would give him a way to resist Clocksork's TS, but he still can do other things like temporal BFR, sealing in his body, age him to dust, etc.
And of course, everything that his other aliens can do.
jgms2008 said:
Besides, I don’t see the Omnitrix having resistance to Law Manipulation or Death Manipulation from Lex Luthor.
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Ghostfreak has Immo type 7 iirc, so, he should resist something that kills him, since he's not alive at all.
Also, if Ben dies, he will just revive by the Omnitrix, since the profile says that "negates regen", not resurrection via external force.

And I don't think the Law Manipulation of Lex is Combat Applicable.
 
GeralSol16

Ele...? Em suas resistências, há apenas "Manipulação do Tempo" e RW. Isso só lhe daria uma maneira de resistir ao TS de Clockwork, mas ele ainda pode fazer outras coisas como BFR temporal, selar seu corpo, envelhecê-lo até virar pó, etc.
E, claro, tudo o que seus outros alienígenas podem fazer.
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Verdade, a propósito, quando eu disse "ele", eu estava me referindo a Lex Luthor.
Fantasmático tem Imortalidade Tipo 7, se não me engano, então ele deve resistir a qualquer coisa que o mate, já que ele não está vivo.
Além disso, se Ben morrer, ele só irá reviver através do Omnitrix, já que o perfil afirma que ele "nega a regeneração", não a ressurreição por força externa.
E não acho que a Manipulação da Lei de Lex seja aplicável em combate.
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Sim, isso é verdade, mas ainda não acho que Imortalidade Tipo 7 dê muita resistência à Manipulação da Morte. Embora eu não consiga lembrar onde vi, dizem que Fantasmático tem um conceito de vida diferente da maioria dos outros seres vivos.
Então, sim, acho que mudei de ideia agora; meu voto vai para Ben, pois parece que ele tem mais hax, resistência/habilidade e também versatilidade do que Lex Luthor.
 
GeralSol16

He...? In his resistances, there are only "Time Manipulation" and RW. This would only give him a way to resist Clockwork's TS, but he can still do other things like temporal BFR, sealing his body, aging him to dust, etc.
And, of course, everything his other aliens can do.
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True, by the way, when I said "he," I was referring to Lex Luthor.
Ghostfreak has Immortality Type 7, if I'm not mistaken, so he should resist anything that would kill him, since he is not alive.
Moreover, if Ben dies, he will only revive through the Omnitrix, since the profile states that it "negates regeneration," not resurrection by external force.
And I don't think Lex's Law Manipulation is applicable in combat.
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Yeah, that's true, but I still don't think that Immortality Type 7 gives much resistance to Death Manipulation. Although I can't remember where I saw it, it is said that Ghostfreak has a different concept of life than most other living beings.
So, yeah, I think I've changed my mind now; my vote goes to Ben since it seems he has more hax, resistance/ability, and also versatility than Lex Luthor.
 
Siding with Lex for right now since I don't think Ben has death hax resistance. If somebody can find it, then my opinion may change.
 
Ok so looking through aliens, I see that Ben has Atomix, which has matter manip, in which Lex cannot resist... uhhhhh...

Ben_10_Stick_Nodes said:
Doesn't Ghostfreak immune to death hax because he is not alive
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It doesn't say specifically that ghost freak has resistance to death hax nor does the immor type 7 state that that type of immor resists death hax by default.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
Ok so looking through aliens, I see that Ben has Atomix, which has matter manip, in which Lex cannot resist... uhhhhh...


It doesn't say specifically that ghost freak has resistance to death hax nor does the immor type 7 state that that type of immor resists death hax by default.
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Check Z'skayr's profile he has immo type 7 Ghostfreak's profile is kinda outdated ngl
 
Arkansalter2 said:
It doesn't say specifically that ghost freak has resistance to death hax nor does the immor type 7 state that that type of immor resists death hax by default.
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If death manip works on a spiritually level it could work but if it is physcially it wouldn't work
 
Ben_10_Stick_Nodes said:
Check Z'skayr's profile he has immo type 7 Ghostfreak's profile is kinda outdated ngl
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Now THIS is an alien that can actually fight Lex. Skayr has immor types 3, 4, and 7. Due to this (most notably type 4), this would prob make Lex's death hax useless. Zs also has some pretty good hax such as soul hax, dura neg, and etc. Hmm.. Zs might take this.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
Now THIS is an alien that can actually fight Lex. Skayr has immor types 3, 4, and 7. Due to this (most notably type 4), this would prob make Lex's death hax useless. Zs also has some pretty good hax such as soul hax, dura neg, and etc. Hmm.. Zs might take this.
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Everything Zs'Skayr cam do, Ghostfreak can do it better.
(Except Immo 4, but considering the Omnitrix can do the same for him, I think applies [?])
So, yes, everything you said applies to Ben too.
 
Arkansalter2

Death Manipulation / Regeneration Negation (The Tear of Extinction causes permanent death and nullifies healing)
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Response:

Wow, I completely forgot about that. But could the Omnitrix's failsafe no react in time before Lex Luthor activates that ability?
 
Ben_10_Stick_Nodes said:
Someone should count Ben's wincons because he has a lot of hax
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Ben's wincons / advantages:
  • More versatility.
  • Clockwork (Time sealing him, age him to dust, Temporal BFR).
  • Big Chill (Absolute zero, internal freezing)
  • Atomix (Matter manipulation. Atomic destruction)
  • Feedback (Energy and life force absorption)

Lex Luthor's wincons / advantages:
  • Way superior AP.
  • Age manipulation.
  • Possibly via reducing his motion trought Still Force.
 
GeralSol16

More versatility.
Clockwork (Sealing time, aging him to dust, Temporal BFR).
Big Chill (absolute zero, internal freezing)
Atomix (Matter manipulation. Atomic destruction)
Feedback (absorption of energy and life force)
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Question: Does Lex Luthor have resistance or any ability to counter Toepick's Fear Manipulation?
 
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