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The hell is this about forced closing. I didnt conceed anything
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Bleach- PTS Speed Downgrade
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Light is composed of photons, which have no mass, so therefore light has no mass and can't weigh anything. ... But because of Einstein's theory (and the fact that lightbehaves like it has mass, in that it's subject to gravity), we can say that mass and energy exist together.
Therefore @Cyberblader90 entire argument about Bleach Reishi / Light having mass and therefore not light was debunked by himself.
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No, the argument is that light doesnt have enough mass to cause impacts
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You can act like ignoring the multiple citations i have provided
The beam doesnt act like diffusion reflection. At all
the sound further provides issues
The suns rays arent hot enough to vaporize a human, not on earth. The beam is concentrated. For it to cause that smoke in the spot mean the metal absorbed enough heat to cause smoke.
If you want to argue against concentration, that opens up: why isnt the air literally burning
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How many qualities of light via the wiki's standards does this attack have?
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That’s what is being debated right now.
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Ill be back after class
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Its a sound effect of sorts. I pout in a translation request. Someone said it could be a sizzle from burning, but we dont know
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So far, what has been agreed on and what is being argued on (other than it has mass).
The beam refracts in a new material, such as a liquid or...- The beam reflects off a material that it can be expected to, such as a non-magical mirror
- The beam is called lightspeed by reliable sources
It is stated to be made of photons or light itself, again by a reliable sourceIt has its origin at a realistic source of light, such as a camera
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being called light by a credible source
reflection is being debated
no possible way to prove the other 3
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They reflect light. That was already discussed in the original CRT.
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Still supernatural... so it doesn't count as regular metal
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This is a new one.
Trying to understand the physics of spiritrons is about as fruitful as attempting to observe tachyons. Even if they have mass, their effects are in opposition to expected particle behavior so it doesn't really matter.
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HUHThis is a new one.
Trying to understand the physics of spiritrons is about as fruitful as attempting to observe tachyons. Even if they have mass, their effects are in opposition to expected particle behavior so it doesn't really matter.
Why are we assuming these behave anything like photons
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This was already brought up in the og thread and examples were brought up to show how zanpakuto reflect light similar to regular swords.
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I never said it wasn't physical metal.
It has been enhanced by a supernatural source, which could give it properties that regular metal doesn't have.
One of those properties? Being able to cut Shinigami and Arrancar.
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all of this was on the OG CTR already, tempest.
the only "enhanced" thing they got are the hax, also everything (arrancar, ghost etc.) are just made of different matter
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Alright, nvm then
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Mask D Masculine photons are made of spiritrons. No other type of matter can enter the spirit world.
Our photons are copies of spiritron (Reishi) photons.
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except they arent called photons. his beam is called light. As is the arrows and ceros.
The latter two contradict light standards
and they are all made from reishi
The latter two contradict light standards
and they are all made from reishi
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The bigger issue:
You are essentially arguing reishi light has unique physics
so why then are we assuming its light speed?
You are essentially arguing reishi light has unique physics
so why then are we assuming its light speed?
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Reishi means spiritual matter/spiritual particles/spiritrons.
A contradiction is an error on the Author’s part. Overweighted by all other feats, statements and lore.
The single fact that Reishi Light > Real Light remains on top and will always be.
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I didnt say it was a cero. Im going on the point apple is going on, that all of them are made from reishi
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All attacks made from Reishi are not the same, this is possibly the biggest false equivalency you’ve made so far.
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Can you provide me with any piece of lore saying they are light speed.
I will concede if you can find any actual statement like that, because then we have a one piece situation.
No, consistent contradictions viloate this site's standards for light
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Cero’s are spiritual light according to the databook. Reishi arrows are “arrows of light” or “rays of light” and obviously spiritual too. There is no difference. Even Shinigami can use Reishi, Uryu said Hollows used it too in Hueco Mundo.
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again not my point.
apple's current argument is reishi has the aspects of photons
Im providing contradictions to that claim
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contradictions... for different attacks.
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^^ Souls, Hollows, and Reishi existed before Our universe was created, by splitting the Reishi world into two different ones. Why do you think all matter in the Bleachverse has a soul? Chairs, tables, and even telephone poles have a soul. What is a soul made off? Reishi.
Reishi World > Kishi World
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no for spiritual matter
Does the matter change so much that it suddenly becomes light speed?
Ive also provided examples for quincy arrows exploding/having force
if you want to get technical, all of mask's other moves explode, and they use spiritual matter as well
Does the matter change so much that it suddenly becomes light speed?
Ive also provided examples for quincy arrows exploding/having force
if you want to get technical, all of mask's other moves explode, and they use spiritual matter as well
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Thats not what I asked for
^^ Souls, Hollows, and Reishi existed before Our universe was created, by splitting the Reishi world into two different ones. Why do you think all matter in the Bleachverse has a soul? Chairs, tables, and even telephone poles have a soul. What is a soul made off? Reishi.
Reishi World > Kishi World
That means reishi predates the current universe.
That doesnt make it faster than light
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Scans, all mask beams burn
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You are claiming that real light became so different from Reishi light that the speed changed? I wonder how are you going to prove that theory.
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The current universe was split/made from the reishi one.
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between you and apple the argument is confusing
is it" all reishi is ftl", even though that is contradicted
or is it "this one move is LS"
is it" all reishi is ftl", even though that is contradicted
or is it "this one move is LS"
