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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

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I honestly think her outright scaling to Hulk isn't an issue. Somebody like Emil only managed to be stronger than Base Hulk due to getting Super Soldier Serum dosages before getting Banner's blood
I do manily because of how there fight went. Like your not gonna see someone that’s relative to another character get pushed around like a child and struggle to damage them with a simalar technique(unless said technique is like some magic or ki thing)
 
I do manily because of how there fight went. Like your not gonna see someone that’s relative to another character get pushed around like a child and struggle to damage them with a simalar technique(unless said technique is like some magic or ki thing)
The difference here is that both are cousins and pretty much had what was written to be a sibling fight (for anyone here who knows what I mean, I think you can agree). Neither of them were actually trying to go all out. Just based on the blood thing though, She-Hulk scaling isn’t really a reach at all

Also I wouldn’t say Jennifer was “pushed around like a child”. Both got knocked around and screamed at each other. Nobody struggled to damage the other because they literally didn’t wanna injure one another
 
Because that’s not how that works. Like mark has the same blood as Omni man yet he bullied him threw out there fight and only surpassed him with training and amps.
Using a different verse as an argument is kinda weak tbh. Jen got real, natural blood from Hulk and became one as a result so therefore, she should somewhat scale to Bruce
 
The difference here is that both are cousins and pretty much had what was written to be a sibling fight (for anyone here who knows what I mean, I think you can agree). Neither of them were actually trying to go all out. Just based on the blood thing though, She-Hulk scaling isn’t really a reach at all

Also I wouldn’t say Jennifer was “pushed around like a child”. Both got knocked around and screamed at each other. Nobody struggled to damage the other because they literally didn’t wanna injure one another
I know my point is that even though they were holding banner was still shown to be quite superior to her. What blood thing?

I meant when he grabbed her by the head and started easily pushing her back
 
I know my point is that even though they were holding banner was still shown to be quite superior to her. What blood thing?

I meant when he grabbed her by the head and started easily pushing her back
The “blood thing” is her literally getting the Hulk blood. The same stuff we knew as far back as The Incredible Hulk can in fact give you those powers if taken. The only reason Emil ended up being stronger and had some differences in powers to Bruce was due to the Super Soldier Serum dosages. Point is, we know for a fact that Jennifer was given Hulk powers via Hulk blood
 
Using a different verse as an argument is kinda weak tbh. Jen got real, natural blood from Hulk and became one as a result so therefore, she should somewhat scale to Bruce
That’s not the same thing. We aren’t talking about family blood. We’re talking about Hulk blood that is given to somebody
How is it not when being part viltrmite gives you stats ?

The “blood thing” is her literally getting the Hulk blood. The same stuff we knew as far back as The Incredible Hulk can in fact give you those powers if taken. The only reason Emil ended up being stronger and had some differences in powers to Bruce was due to the Super Soldier Serum dosages. Point is, we know for a fact that Jennifer was given Hulk powers via Hulk blood
I’m not debating on weather Jen has similar powers to hulk(even though it’s debatable if she gets rage amps), I’m talking about how this would give her similar stats to him?
 
Actually, wait. Before any counter arguments are written up, I did consider something

Jennifer had Banner's blood spilled on her open wound during the accident, rather than how Emil was given the blood through more professional means

Maybe I'm reading into that too much, but receiving lesser blood could be a point for why Jen isn't as strong as her cousin
 
Different verse. Different contexts. Not applicable here. Mark was the son of Omni-Man. Jennifer was given the blood of a gamma monster form that her cousin received after an experiment went wrong. These are not comparable
Both of them get powers from there blood so I don’t see why they can’t be comparable. Regardless I still don’t see how she would have similar stats to bruce
 
Both of them get powers from there blood so I don’t see why they can’t be comparable. Regardless I still don’t see how she would have similar stats to bruce
It's not the same thing. Genetics inherited from parents can't really be compared to the Gamma blood injections/infections here. As silly as Marvel stuff is, there is scientific logic that backs up the difference I'm stating here
 
Also there’s the fact that Invincible makes it clear that having the blood of a Viltrumite doesn’t automatically make you as strong as one. Nolan didn’t have certainty that his son would even get powers and it’s clear that the development of his strength exists. Gamma blood, however, immediately infected and transformed Jennifer upon contact via an open wound

Let’s leave Invincible out of this though
 
It's not the same thing. Genetics inherited from parents can't really be compared to the Gamma blood injections/infections here. As silly as Marvel stuff is, there is scientific logic that backs up the difference I'm stating here
What scientific logic exactly?


Also there’s the fact that Invincible makes it clear that having the blood of a Viltrumite doesn’t automatically make you as strong as one. Nolan didn’t have certainty that his son would even get powers and it’s clear that the development of his strength exists. Gamma blood, however, immediately infected and transformed Jennifer upon contact via an open wound

Let’s leave Invincible out of this though
Good, that’s my whole point. It shouldn’t matter if you get or have the same blood as someone else your not gonna auto scale to them unless there’s evidence saying otherwise
 
What scientific logic exactly?
….You are aware that blood via inheriting genetics from your parents works differently from having blood injected into your body, right?
Good, that’s my whole point. It shouldn’t matter if you get or have the same blood as someone else your not gonna auto scale to them unless there’s evidence saying otherwise
You’re…missing my point entirely

Let’s move on from this please. Last thing I wanna talk about on an MCU discussion thread is the mechanisms and logistics of real life blood and Gamma blood
 
Regarding the Wrecking Crew/Fodder, Shulk, & Asgardian Tools/Weapons, would the Wrecking Crew/Fodder being Average Humans using Asgardian Weapons be the reason why they're aren't doing any harm to Shulk or that the tools/weapons aren't working as they should since the crew only stole them, and more or less can't access their full potential since they know squat using magically enchanted weapons?

• Human Stats vs Asgardian Stats
• Experience in using the Tools/Weapons
 
Tbf, Thor and Hela are from the royal family and born with very specific and particular powers and Kurse is the result of enhancement (sort of)
I'm not talking about them specifically, I'm talking about Asgardian Weapons being able to damage them.

• Thor getting stabbed by Loki's dagger
• Hela getting pierced by a sword/spear from am Asgardian Soldier
• Kurse getting cut by swords from Asgardian Guards
 
….You are aware that blood via inheriting genetics from your parents works differently from having blood injected into your body, right?

You’re…missing my point entirely

Let’s move on from this please. Last thing I wanna talk about on an MCU discussion thread is the mechanisms and logistics of real life blood and Gamma blood
Viltrumite blood isn’t real but whatever
 
Ok so, why is Thanos not 5-C for holding the power stone? Even though Ronan has tanked the Hadron Enforcer and Thanos has shown to be consistently above him in power?
 
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