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Honestly i feel peoples are too paranoid and take that thread as a doomsday which aren't true at all

You know what, i'll call Dread to come here since you guys have an anxiety over the issue, mine was curious as well
 
Android 17 vs Surge The Tenrec? It would be nice see another Dragon Ball vs Sonic MU.
Bringing back a character I was spitballing a while ago, I ALMOST feel like Livewire VS Surge could work thematically, and give Surge more of an interesting fighting chance since no one can seem to agree where Livewire should scale, so Death Battle's opinion on the matter could be interesting to hear and a bit of a wildcard verdict.

Plus, while Electro VS Livewire is probably overall better in thematics, Surge would be more interesting than just a 'Marvel VS DC who are similar' again.

Female antagonistic-rivals for the main hero, general punk aesthetics, caustic and both act as if its them vs the world, both have electrical powers that they got unnaturally (depending on your Livewire backstory) through the hero's influence (which they both GREATLY exaggerate the blame), honestly just generally blame the blue-goodie two shoes hero for a lot of their problems... I feel like it could be a lot stronger, but I also feel we've had worse thematics to build an episode on.

This is all hinging that Livewire can even hold an episode...Surge I feel is getting there to being able to hold an episode but probably not a headliner yet, still.
 
Is Amitabha real though? As far as I know, he was only stated to exist by some humans that probably aren't very knowledgeable on which gods exist or not. Not by someone that might truly know if that's true or not.
Is there a chance as there are "infinite universes" in Touhou Project, not all universes are equal in size, such that one may be as large as Amitabha and others are just possibly a town hall in size?

Also, even if Amitabha is not relevant there will still be a lot of claims and counter claims to deal with. To be entirely honest, I lost count.

Honestly i feel peoples are too paranoid and take that thread as a doomsday which aren't true at all

You know what, i'll call Dread to come here since you guys have an anxiety over the issue, mine was curious as well
Maybe we need to reassess what is actually considered obscure and what not.

Like... Super Sentai is so popular in Asia Power Rangers are considered rip-off even if PR is technically a separate canon from SS but using many SS footages.

I know Ant is targeting anything close to Suggsverse from being built so that profiles here will be having quality but the wording picked by ImmortalDread makes it feel like many innocent verses will get nuked if we brutally honour the exact wordings as suggested without modification.

Bringing back a character I was spitballing a while ago, I ALMOST feel like Livewire VS Surge could work thematically, and give Surge more of an interesting fighting chance since no one can seem to agree where Livewire should scale, so Death Battle's opinion on the matter could be interesting to hear and a bit of a wildcard verdict.

Plus, while Electro VS Livewire is probably overall better in thematics, Surge would be more interesting than just a 'Marvel VS DC who are similar' again.

Female antagonistic-rivals for the main hero, general punk aesthetics, caustic and both act as if its them vs the world, both have electrical powers that they got unnaturally (depending on your Livewire backstory) through the hero's influence (which they both GREATLY exaggerate the blame), honestly just generally blame the blue-goodie two shoes hero for a lot of their problems... I feel like it could be a lot stronger, but I also feel we've had worse thematics to build an episode on.

This is all hinging that Livewire can even hold an episode...Surge I feel is getting there to being able to hold an episode but probably not a headliner yet, still.
No Electro vs Livewire.

But Surge vs Livewire? Is Livewire a herald or "DC street" character or a Dakota verse Static
 
regen doesnt equal dura

Makima actually does the most damage to pochita well, besides the spear hybrid (csm as a whole doesnt have really good piercing dura)
I'm more arguing that Darkness Devil is the kind of character whose more complicated than just X character can hurt him which puts him one a similar level. It seems he's more complicated than that, like a small piece of his flesh made Santa strong enough that thought she/them could beat Makima which is weird if your under the belief that Makima and Darkness are in any way comparable.
 
No Electro vs Livewire.
I mean, yeah exactly...It's not exactly exciting but it's a 'obviously' so...Could happen.

Maybe.

...If demand AND a good new reason to do it show up like for some reason they're the main badguy of a new project for either company. I'm not rooting for this one, but it's something that Livewire and Electro MIGHT get doomed to...
But Surge vs Livewire? Is Livewire a herald or "DC street" character or a Dakota verse Static
She's a 'I have absolutely no idea' character.

Sometimes she's punched out by Batgirl, sometimes she teams up with Harley and Ivy, sometimes Superman, Supergirl, and Blue Beetle view her as a genuine threat. I don't think the DC writers know what to do with her...

It's kinda what I mean by Death Battle's interpretation could end up being really interesting. They might give her herald stats...They might give her street stats. They might theorize she's a legit 'varies' character. Who knows?
 
Maybe we need to reassess what is actually considered obscure and what not.
Exactly
I know Ant is targeting anything close to Suggsverse from being built so that profiles here will be having quality but the wording picked by ImmortalDread makes it feel like many innocent verses will get nuked if we brutally honour the exact wordings as suggested without modification.
Hence why peoples exaggerated the thread because you guys mistook Dread wording
The issue will be addressed on the next thread once that thread has been gone throught, but looks like peoples concerns over it are way high right now which is why i called Dread to come here

I also asked in that thread to allowing the normal members to give their thought but that's more of technical option which if it get rejected then it's fine
 
Like... Super Sentai is so popular in Asia Power Rangers are considered rip-off even if PR is technically a separate canon from SS but using many SS footages.
This is what happen if Mario exaggeration been taken seriously

SS will be fine, because if we taken to the misunderstand of Dread thread, might as well delete Kamen Rider and let Ultraman stay because the latter has more popularity, get this illogical mindset?
Not only that, might as well delete Fate/Nasuverse, Touhou, Granblue Fantasy, Arknights, Neptunia, so on and so on because why not by the misunderstanding?
 
Luffy really doesn't have any good matches, all of them are either matches based on tangential bull**** like naruto or Ichigo, based on his powers and are boring like Plastic Man and Mister Fantastic or are thematic but are a mismatches and either the character fought someone from One Piece already or have a better match up like Natsu and Captain Marvelous.
Honestly I'd rather have them use someone else from the crew before they actually do Luffy (presumably Nami or Frankie, though Jimbe vs Kisame is thematic enough and could be fun)
 
Luffy really doesn't have any good matches, all of them are either matches based on tangential bull**** like naruto or Ichigo, based on his powers and are boring like Plastic Man and Mister Fantastic or are thematic but are a mismatches and either the character fought someone from One Piece already or have a better match up like Natsu and Captain Marvelous.
Honestly I'd rather have them use someone else from the crew before they actually do Luffy (presumably Nami or Frankie, though Jimbe vs Kisame is thematic enough and could be fun)
I don't recall any of better MU for Marvelous beside Decade and Zenkaiser and even so it's an same verse matches
So yeah, until then Luffy vs Marvelous is our best MU for our adork idiot strawhat pirate leader
 
I don't recall any of better MU for Marvelous beside Decade and Zenkaiser and even so it's an same verse matches
So yeah, until then Luffy vs Marvelous is our best MU for our adork idiot strawhat pirate leader
It's not like same verse matches are prohibited, also I'd much perfer that over a match that makes Luffy vs Naruto look fair.
 
Is Amitabha real though? As far as I know, he was only stated to exist by some humans that probably aren't very knowledgeable on which gods exist or not. Not by someone that might truly know if that's true or not.
Considering that Gods become more powerful and defined when having "Names" and that a large portion of Touhou's lore is directly tied into the concept of belief from humans, I'd argue that their knowledge actually cements those details as fact.

And then, again, multiple infinite size statements both in-universe and from WoG, still would place these realms as larger either way.
 
It's not like same verse matches are prohibited, also I'd much perfer that over a match that makes Luffy vs Naruto look fair.
since they did vegeto vs gogeta i'm sure he can.. and could potentially do decade vs marvelous.

only if luffy ends up fighting someone else.
Yeah i'm not saying Decade vs Marvelous is prohibited, it's all came to our preference in the end
 
Is Amitabha real though? As far as I know, he was only stated to exist by some humans that probably aren't very knowledgeable on which gods exist or not. Not by someone that might truly know if that's true or not.
In Touhou, common belief = reality. Since Amitabha is a stated God within the verse that's believed to be real, he would be real and would exist. Since he's stated to reside within heaven, his size can be applied to Heaven (or at least his SPECIFIC Heaven). Gods get proportionally more powerful the more belief & faith they accumulate as well, so the fact that characters that, as you said, aren't even super knowledgeable about Gods, but know about Amitabha, would likely cement his existence even more.

There's still ultimately several infinite size statements for Heaven regardless that would make Amitabha scaling a huge lowball regardless.
 
Bluffing the way to planet level JJK isn't that hard tbh (nor accurate lol)
World can mean more then 5-B, you can go as high as tier 3/2 if they suggest in context to be about these or obviously as low as High 6-A, maybe less if they suggest too

Not to mention how often they tell you such statements or how many, if thats the only one, then its useless and irrelevant, at least from what was said here in regards to the topic that i read
 
There probably are verses that are bit too obscure, but its hard to say what should be the limit. It'd be easier to know which verses are actually on verge on deletion and judge on that if they did a good call.

Going back to prev page, canon Android 17 is still kinda problematic for DB because he lacks cool moves, they would need to nail characterization which is hard for them and his MUs still suck.
 
Anyways gonna say regarding obscure series on DB and in general


Let's get this shit out the way I understand the issues on gambling on series nobody knows about it
Bread gotta be made, bills have to be paid
I can't hope "generic weebshit #24636646 or some obscure cartoon or game from the 2000s just net 1mil over a month and be proud

That's the reality and it sucks


However that doesn't mean we can't have them on

Variety is key you can't oversaturated your audience with the same shit 24/7 and not expect that to affect viewership


You gotta branch out to new series and franchises, nobody came to watch the same shows and said show well can dry up by the point that u do
 
ya know a discussion yates server had me thinking

how popular is Death battle outside the US?
how many of us live in different countries that are fans of DB?
I would say it has a decent fanbase in the Spanish-speaking section of YouTube. There are some Spanish-speaking YouTubers that review and talk about Death Battle and there have been multiple Spanish-speaking DB debunk videos. Unrelated but I am still upset about that time Ryuko Shion spoiled the outcome of Wally vs Sonic in his community tab just because he was angry at the research (He agreed with the conclusion)

Anyway, there is also a very big and active Spanish-speaking Death Battle-themed unofficial Discord server. So DB in Spanish-speaking countries is niche but has its communities and a bit of a following.

I can't speak for other countries.
 
ya know a discussion yates server had me thinking

how popular is Death battle outside the US?
how many of us live in different countries that are fans of DB?
Somehow I have heard that ROC Taiwan used to have a significant fan base for Death Battle - that kind of fades since the start of Season 9 - which sucks as Season 9 has some significant improvement from Season 8.

Likely PR China, Hong Kong SAR and Macau SAR (are they such technically called) should have some fan bases that may care less or just don't show up publicly. Or are just busy at something else.
 
I live outside US and only 2 people i knew heard or watched DB
Ditto and for me those 2 people happened to be related to me. That said these DB discussion threads kinda perpetual loop back to this topic, so to nip this in the bud (again) just look no further than the ads DB uses and that should be a good indicator of their main viewership demographic is.

I mean if you don't live in NA you can't even buy most of the products DB advertises, heck you could live in Mexico or Canada and some of DBs products are still out of reach for you.
 
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