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It was literally the first thing I brought up lolI was about to say, if it is referenced in show, why not start with it? But... yeah...
From the post in question:That isn't about the show referencing it.
Unless it includes information that is exclusively from the comics, and not from the lore video, it won't help your argument whatsoever. The comic takes place in RWBY, it's expected to reference canon events. That doesn't make it canon.it most likely mentions the same event
Weekly. This:It was literally the first thing I brought up lol
Literally my first major post on the thread that lead to this was addressing this
Is absolutely not the same as:On top of that, they directly interweave major points about the verse's lore into this story, such as Victor being the way that Remnant found out that Dust doesnt work outside the atmosphere by him being in a spaceship that exploded as it left the planet.
The event can't be referenced a year or so before actually happening.the comic is directly referenced in the show
I need to check something, because the world of remnant came out in 2015 alongside the first season of the showWeekly. This:
Is absolutely not the same as:
The event can't be referenced a year or so before actually happening.
Weekly. This:
Is absolutely not the same as:
The event can't be referenced a year or so before actually happening.
The comic references the show, yes, just like every other canon extended media RWBY hasSo it's not referencing the comic. The comic references it. And it also isn't the show.
Also wasn't Jeane in the world of Remnant in season 9? Or am I on drugs cause I haven't even touched season 9The comic references the show, yes, just like every other canon extended media RWBY has
The World of Remnant is the show yes, it's quite literally an exposition dump for the verse's lore
But the reverse, which you claimed earlier, is blatant untrueThe comic references the show, yes, just like every other canon extended media RWBY has
What do you mean?But the reverse, which you claimed earlier, is blatant untrue
The comic references an event from the World of Remnant miniseries. Not the other way around. And the miniseries is not the showWhat do you mean?
He is stating that the comic references the show, which goes the opposite of what you claimed earlier.What do you mean?
Mind elaborating on this part further? Because I am under the impression that mini-series are indeed a show.And the miniseries is not the show
Ah, my apologies, I misspoke then, my badHe is stating that the comic references the show, which goes the opposite of what you claimed earlier.
You are proving the opponent's point, then.Ah, my apologies, I misspoke then, my bad
The comic takes place in RWBY, it's expected to reference canon events. That doesn't make it canon.
Yeah I'm not sure what he means by this either, the world of remnant as a series is an exposition dump of lore for the verse, and it was released alongside the show's episodes.Mind elaborating on this part further? Because I am under the impression that mini-series are indeed a show.
It is canon yes, I've explained this alreadyYou are proving the opponent's point, then.
Plus it's not like this is just some small reference. It's literallyYou are proving the opponent's point, then.
It's not "the show." The primary canon is the actual RWBY series itself. When someone says it's referenced in the show, that means the actual RWBY series, not this mini series, which is extended media just like the movie and comics.Mind elaborating on this part further? Because I am under the impression that mini-series are indeed a show.
That's not the argument being made. The only reason we're talking about this is because you lied about what happened. The comic wasn't referenced by World of Remnant. It was the opposite. World of Remnant was referenced by the comic. That doesn't mean it's canon.Saying the comic isnt canon because it's only referenced by the World of Remnant is like saying the Mandalorian isnt canon to Disney Star Wars because it's only ever brought up in Book of Boba Fett
Not that I'm aware of no, the guidebook even doubles down on the majority of info in the seriesTo be fair, wasn't World of Remnant retconned too at times? Specifically earlier episodes. Like, either the nature of grimm or aura?
But anyways World of Remnant can't be used to prove comic being canon, because it isn't in fact referenced in the show. So that point is void.
Noted. I was a bit confused of your wording. Thanks for clarification.It's not "the show." The primary canon is the actual RWBY series itself. When someone says it's referenced in the show, that means the actual RWBY series, not this mini series, which is extended media just like the movie and comics.
I didnt lie though? Why does everyone always immediately jump the conclusion that any time I misspeak 8m automatically lyingThat's not the argument being made. The only reason we're talking about this is because you lied about what happened. The comic wasn't referenced by World of Remnant. It was the opposite. World of Remnant was referenced by the comic. That doesn't mean it's canon.
Because what you said blatantly untrue, and it doesn't make any sense for it to be "misspeaking" because the truth (what you're claiming you 'meant') doesn't support your argument. You gain nothing by pointing out that the comic references a pre-existing lore event, so you had no reason to bring it up.I didnt lie though? Why does everyone always immediately jump the conclusion that any time I misspeak 8m automatically lying
The truth does support my argument, the comic took an event from the lore and expanded on it in a canon storyBecause what you said blatantly untrue, and it doesn't make any sense for it to be "misspeaking" because the truth (what you're claiming you 'meant') doesn't support your argument.
Clear as day, you attempted to pretend that the events of the comic were validated by other external media when it wasnt, and obviously the comic referencing the lore means nothing. Then you tried to misrepresent further by claiming the actual RWBY show referenced the comic, also untrue.
Not that I'm aware of no, the guidebook even doubles down on the majority of info in the series
the comic took an event from the lore and expanded on it
Which doesn't help in our case. If a RWBY game says a story about how Adam got his SDC scar, expands on it, it doesn't help in its case of being possibly canon.The truth does support my argument, the comic took an event from the lore and expanded on it in a canon story
Still not sure what you're referring to, if you could find it that would be great because I'm drawing a blankOh brooother, of course there's a guidebook.
I specifically vaguely remember Aura episode, which said something about Ozpin that later was retconned. Either his experience or mastery or something.
And why exactly does that make it non-canon? You keep saying that makes it non-canon but havent given an explanation as to why.That doesn't make it canon. The only justification you've provided for its canonicity in the first place is an author statement about an entirely different comic, made before the crossover was ever written. Which is another thing you got caught lying about
This is a bit topic-off, keep it outside the conversation if you don't mind.Weekly, for Christ you were a staff member, how can you not see it?
Elaborating upon an event derived from lore within a given context does not necessarily provide conclusive evidence of its canonical status within said context.The truth does support my argument, the comic took an event from the lore and expanded on it in a canon story
Expanding on an event from a lore in a story does not automatically make it canon because the canon status of a story or event within a lore is determined by the creators of that lore and their guidelines for what is considered canonical.And why exactly does that make it non-canon? You keep saying that makes it non-canon but havent given an explanation as to why.