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Now you're cherrypicking, discarding the part of Flowey's statement that don't suit your narrative only because you don't like it. You can't still have the cake after eating it after all.While Flowey is an unreliable narrator, his words aren’t automatically invalid. He’s one of the most knowledgable characters, so if his words have something backing them up or have no reason to be a lie then they should be useable as a support for something. There’s notable evidence in support of Ceroba being on Asgore’s level even without Flowey’s post-Geno Ceroba quote, whereas Flowey’s post-Zenith quote is pretty obviously BS and is arguably just him talking about Clover being emotionless like he is.
They surely did in fact lmao.There’s also his quote as Meta Flowey where he was pretty confident Shmup Clover could’ve beaten Asgore if they tried to.