Re:Zero Acausality Removal [Regulus] | The Rules are way to lax anyway

[Sonoftanavast9]

Bump

 

[Wikisource]

Seems is fine

 

[Sonoftanavast9]

Bump

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

You've already got 2 staff votes

 

[Sonoftanavast9]

You've already got 2 staff votes

i assumed 3 is required

 

[Fezzih_007]

i assumed 3 is required

For a verse like Rezero, is not

 

[Phoenks]

He does not have 2 staff agreements.

Lord griffin was not even a straight agreement. He asked for more information and when given that, he never responded again. He wasn't even sure about his stance in the first place.

I don't know what other staff has agreed.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

bump

 

[Kirinator07]

Bumping for measure, what's the current agreed objective for Regulus's Lion's Heart?

 

[Fezzih_007]

Bumping for measure, what's the current agreed objective for Regulus's Lion's Heart?

1 disagree
1 agree

 

[Phsccarvalho]

bump

 

[Fezzih_007]

Bump,

 

[CodeCCLL]

Bump for the last 24 hours before calling staff again.

 

[Sonoftanavast9]

bump

 

[Greatsage13th]

Gonna agree

 

[Phsccarvalho]

bump

 

[Phsccarvalho]

The notion of Regulus having Acausality comes from the following scans, specifically the scans to do with Laws/Rules:



All I see here is self time stop granting invulnerability and a resistance to physics manipulation

In the one scan [the second] in which regulus brings up his freedom from every possible law and actually exposit on this freedom in any degree of clarity, beyond just the vaguest notion, all of what he specifically goes about mentioning is in relation to Physical laws aka Gravity, Air Resistance and Conservation of Momentum but non of this inherently has to do with him being in a state of irregular from causality or him being free from causality as a whole.

He doesn't experience change as an obviously side effect of his body being time locked, literally anything in a time stop obviously won't experience change. I don't see how this has an bearing on Acausality besides the mention of the word "Change" but to the best of my knowledge the Wiki doesn't treat every time stopped object as Acausal despite the fact that they inherently won't experience change.

The most glaring and obvious point against the notion of Regulus having Acausality Type 4 is the simple fact that he literally has direct showing of not having any of the inherent resistance that Acausality Type 4 would grant

• He's blatantly not immune to causality manipulation in any way as it is literally on Pandora's profile that she uses causality manipulation on him with 0 issues and specifically explains it all being a natural result of his actions vanishing
• He's blatantly not immune to precognition in any way as it is literally on Regulus' own profile in the standard equipment section that he carries around a book which vaguely tells his own future

The only way to reconcile these clear contradictions to the notion of him having Acausality is to posit that both Pandora's causality manipulation and the Book's Precognition are themselves able to affect irregular systems of causality simply by virtue of them affecting regulus despite neither her/nor anyone else bringing any attention to Regulus' unique state of existence as being something that would otherwise prevent any other causality manipulation/precog from working on him and the fact that Pandora's ability in particular is stated to basically have been the result of her changing the world and the world affirming her word so she's affecting him by altering the causality of the world which obviously wouldn't work if his supposed Acausality put him in a state of irregular causality separate from that of the worlds conventional system of causality.

It would be an extremely generous interpretation of events to assume that both Pandora's ability and the Books precog are simply able to affect irregular causality with little to no actual evidence in way of this being pointed out or mentioned at any point.

I think the qualifications for Acausality Type 4 (especially anything to do with statements of being exempt from laws/rules) are way too lax and generous as they are which leads to too many assumptions.

If we are given a statement that X character is exempt from rules/laws (the nature of this exclusion isn't explained in any sense of detail nor is causality specifically mentioned amongst those laws) -> The character is then assumed by the wiki to have an relevantly irregular relationship to causality and thus they are subsequently assumed to have immunity to Precog/Fate/Causality hax -> Any abilities of this kind which affect them are then assumed to have Acausality bypassing properties

These are extraordinary claims which require extraordinary evidence but often such cases only just have one or more unexplored statement of being exempt from laws/rules.

Agree: @CurrySenpai, @Rutæhh, @Spectra_Schiffer, @YueNoMoral, @Dark_Soul20189, @EL_xWatcher1234x, @CodeCCLL , @LordGriffin1000 , @Rakih_Elyan
Disagree: @Phoenks, @Zabazab, @SatellaTheWoE, @TheHeavenlySword, @VortechsTG
Neutral:

bump

 

[Aseka]

Agree

 

[MasterOwOgay]

Disagree

 

[CodeCCLL]