Minato Revision: High 6-B Barriers

[Arcker123]

Preface
This could get a lot more controversial than I envision it being

Content
Within Minato's durability section, I would like it to be added that his barrier techniques (A subset of his mastery of Uzumaki Sealing spells) should be given a High 6-B rating for their ability to contain, and endure strikes from a Full Powered Kurama (A High 6-B character).

This is displayed on two occasions, first of which being how Minato proclaims he would be able to erect a barrier to contain Kurama, but due to being exhausted after the events of the Masked Man's invasion, he required Kushina to do it for him, as at the time, erecting the barrier would have taken a large amount of his already low Chakra supply, which he would need to perform other Jutsu to seal the Nine-Tails. Given his mastery of these same sealing techniques, and his statement, it is reasonable to conclude at his full capacity, his sealing barriers would be this powerful.

Lastly, in the Minato One-Shot, he directly displays the ability to block Kurama's physical attacks using Sealing Barriers (A Hashirama level feat according to the Fox himself...). This is a blatant feat displaying his barriers relativity to a full Kurama. Kurama confirms that Minato is using his own unique style (meaning Jutsu) to keep him sealed, so this feat isn't strictly attributable to the Tetragram, but another barrier he uses to within the seal to support it.

With these arguments in mind, it appears scaling Minato's barrier Jutsu to Kurama is highly warranted and well in order.

Suggestions
Here lies my proposal as to how this scaling will be communicated on Minato's durability section for both his Alive and Edo Tensei Keys

Large Country level with Barriers (Stated that he could erect a barrier capable of containing the full Kyūbi, even while nearly out of Chakra. Even as an inexperienced teenager and being exhausted from training, Minato could still create sealing barriers durable enough to block Kurama's tail swipes)

Votes

Agree: @MinatoSparkle, @Damage3245, @Shi4njutsu, @JohnHendrix212, @Arkenis (Likely), @DragonZeroNova, @LephyrTheRevanchist

Neutral:

Disagree:

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I'm a little unsure abt if Minato blocked FP Kurama in the one shot but I def agree with the barrier thing

 

[Arcker123]

I'm a little unsure abt if Minato blocked FP Kurama in the one shot but I def agree with the barrier thing

Kurama had broken free of the crucifix he was attached to and even the pike through his chest had vanished.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

He clearly wasn't fully out of the seal or he wouldn't still be inside Kushina. Minato was also reinforcing/augmenting the seal rather than just creating a completely new one so that may be a mitigating factor as well

 

[Damage3245]

This is displayed on two occasions, first of which being how Minato proclaims he would be able to erect a barrier to contain Kurama, but due to being exhausted after the events of the Masked Man's invasion, he required Kushina to do it for him, as at the time, erecting the barrier would have taken a large amount of his already low Chakra supply, which he would need to perform other Jutsu to seal the Nine-Tails. Given his mastery of these same sealing techniques, and his statement, it is reasonable to conclude at his full capacity, his sealing barriers would be this powerful.

Can't this also refer to Minato's teleportation barrier? I don't recall Minato creating any other barriers than these (except for the Hokage barrier that utilized all 4 Hokage).

 

[Arcker123]

His goal is to trap the nine tails. The nine tails wasn't using an attack he needed to redirect. The barrier he was going to use was the same one Kushina was going to, she just got to it first.

 

[Arcker123]

He clearly wasn't fully out of the seal or he wouldn't still be inside Kushina. Minato was also reinforcing/augmenting the seal rather than just creating a completely new one so that may be a mitigating factor as well

The undoing of the seal doesn't mean the nine tails is free. Naruto in chapter 490~ is also described as undoing the seal. Kurama still has to overpower the Jin's chakra to emerge.

Kurama describes it as a unique style, which means it's its own thing for the purposes of helping the Trigram seal contain Kurama.

 

[Arkenis]

Lastly, in the Minato One-Shot, he directly displays the ability to block Kurama's physical attacks using Sealing Barriers (A Hashirama level feat according to the Fox himself...). This is a blatant feat displaying his barriers relativity to a full Kurama. Kurama confirms that Minato is using his own unique style (meaning Jutsu) to keep him sealed, so this feat isn't strictly attributable to the Tetragram, but another barrier he uses to within the seal to support it.

Kuruma's remark is in regards to the augmentation of the seal since its usually something only Uzumaki's know and yet he's doing it in his own style, something only Hashirama could. Little to do with power and more knowledge/skill.

These feats also are never demonstrating what you're arguing for, I think a likely is more accurate

 

[Arcker123]

Kuruma's remark is in regards to the augmentation of the seal since its usually something only Uzumaki's know and yet he's doing it in his own style, something only Hashirama could. Little to do with power and more knowledge/skill.

The unique thing he's doing is a barrier which physically tanked a hit from him.

 

[Arkenis]

The unique thing he's doing is a barrier which physically tanked a hit from him.

It's a sealed Kurama.

 

[Arcker123]

It's a sealed Kurama.

The seal binding him had already been undone by that point in a similar vein to how it gets undone by Naruto in chapter 490~

 

[MinatoSparkle]

The undoing of the seal doesn't mean the nine tails is free. Naruto in chapter 490~ is also described as undoing the seal. Kurama still has to overpower the Jin's chakra to emerge.

Meh sure ig

Kurama describes it as a unique style, which means it's its own thing for the purposes of helping the Trigram seal contain Kurama.

Adding unique toppings to a cake don't mean you're baking a new cake

 

[Arcker123]

The point is the toppings aren't themselves the cake

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Yes, but Minato's not building a cake from scratch even if he's making many unique changes

 

[Arkenis]

Why are you guys discussing Minato's baking skills?

 

[Arcker123]

Yes, but Minato's not building a cake from scratch even if he's making many unique changes

The enhancement he's doing is adding his special yellow banana frosting which is unusually creamy. Even Kurama's fingers can't swipe a piece off.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

The enhancement he's doing is adding his special yellow banana frosting which is unusually creamy. Even Kurama's fingers can't swipe a piece off.

True, the cake wouldn't be nearly as tasty without that frosting, but if it was just the frosting, it wouldn't be very appealing either

 

[DragoZeroNova]

From now on, I want every Naruto CRT to be explained using culinary terminology

 

[Arcker123]

True, the cake wouldn't be nearly as tasty without that frosting, but if it was just the frosting, it wouldn't be very appealing either

I don't see how that effects the Michelin rating of the frosting. By stifling the fur balls attempt to lick it (where the rating would come from), it would automatically get 5 stars. It being to enhance the cake is irrelevant, it's its own thing. Minato turned a "This is *****" to a "This is passable."

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I don't see how that effects the Michelin rating of the frosting. By stifling the fur balls attempt to lick it (where the rating would come from), it would automatically get 5 stars. It being to enhance the cake is irrelevant, it's its own thing. Minato turned a "This is *****" to a "This is passable."

Kurama might be able to lick off the frosting on its own, but eating the whole cake would still be too much for him. The quality of the frosting is top tier, but the thickness may not be enough to sate the fox's appetite

 

[Arcker123]

Kurama might be able to lick off the frosting on its own

He's already demonstrated he can't split the creamy sea

but eating the whole cake would still be too much for him

He had already eaten the cake. The only thing stopping him from looking for more cake was that salivating banana pudding

 

[MinatoSparkle]

He's already demonstrated he can't split the creamy sea

He had already eaten the cake. The only thing stopping him from looking for more cake was that salivating banana pudding

It's more like the cake had a hole eaten through, but the frosting filled that hole and made it tastier than ever. A great feat no doubt but not one attributable solely to the frosting

 

[Shi4njutsu]

i agree with the thread knowing that minato assume that he can contain kurama strikes...

 

[Kaydee1648]

It's more like the cake had a hole eaten through, but the frosting filled that hole and made it tastier than ever. A great feat no doubt but not one attributable solely to the frosting

lmao y’all are so funny

 

[karo_senpaii]

Yes, but Minato's not building a cake from scratch even if he's making many unique changes

He already got kushina's cake so...

 

[JohnHendrix212]

It's good that Sparkle didn't make this so it doesn't get forgotten and left in the dust.

On topic, I agree with the premise.

 

[Arcker123]

It's more like the cake had a hole eaten through, but the frosting filled that hole and made it tastier than ever. A great feat no doubt but not one attributable solely to the frosting

The cake had been completely eaten. As evidenced by the fact it wasn't in his chest anymore (rather his stomach).

Its the frosting that did the feat. Which is why Kurama thought only Gordon Ramsay could match it in his history.

 

[Damage3245]

So favor I'm in favor of the proposal. Since Kushina already has this on her profile and it's implied that Minato would be able to do it as well if he had to.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

It's good that Sparkle didn't make this so it doesn't get forgotten and left in the dust.

On topic, I agree with the premise.

The cake had been completely eaten. As evidenced by the fact it wasn't in his chest anymore (rather his stomach).

Its the frosting that did the feat. Which is why Kurama thought only Gordon Ramsay could match it in his history.

It looked like the cake had been completely eaten, but Kurama missed a part that Minato fancied up, not built from the ground up, bringing the cake back to full glory.

On a more serious note though, I'm fineish with the feat used as supporting evidence upon consideration.

 

[Arcker123]

On a more serious note though, I'm fineish with the feat used as supporting evidence upon consideration.

Good enough for me lol

 

[Arcker123]

Bump

 

[Rocker1189]

Apparently we have baking experts here.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Average Inverse Debate with Sparkle

 

[Arcker123]

Vote!

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Arcker has demonstrated his superior cooking skills and has adequately convinced me.
Agree FRA

 

[Arcker123]

It's good that Sparkle didn't make this so it doesn't get forgotten and left in the dust.

On topic, I agree with the premise.

The irony

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Agreed with OP

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

That's grace then, right?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

That's grace then, right?

It's probably fine to apply yeah

 

[Arcker123]

I have done so. This can be closed.