The GOAT finally gets the speed justification he deserves fr (War Arc high tiers speed revision)

[Floxy178]

Wtf does coalesce even mean?

It means "I agree with the OP"

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Added this feat that I had forgotten about fyi

 

[Testarossa002]

This was true prior to the WA, but Late WA Kakashi is physically faster than his Kamui. It's really quite simple. Kakashi~TSO>Kamui. It's odd certainly, but this just means Kamui's speed doesn't scale proportionately with the user.

That doesn’t prove Kamui is inferior to Kakashi’s movement speed.
The chapter right before this even shows Kakashi using Kamui to warp away Minato’s Rasengan rather than simply dodging it, which suggests Kamui was the only viable option
Then there’s the issue of narrative intent. At no point during the War Arc was Kakashi’s reaction speed ever treated as something extraordinary. I can understand that argument being made for Minato to some extent, but definitely not for Kakashi. No character looked at him and thought his reactions were on such a godlike level that top tiers like BSM Naruto, Juubito, Rinne Rebirth Madara, or even one-eyed Madara couldn’t touch him due to some massive speed gap.
For god’s sake, by some of these interpretations, Kakashi’s final reaction speed would be 500 times faster than Juubito’s movement speed, which just doesn’t track with how the story actually portrays him.
Even more so, the feat in question was performed by an exhausted Kakashi with no mental amp involved.
With how insignificant the feat itself is, I'd just rule it as an outlier

The Sharingan doesn't just boost reactions in terms of giving you better eyesight and precognition, it boosts you physically too. That's how previously High Hypersonic+ Sasuke was able to dodge Sub-Relativistic KM0 Naruto from fairly close distances. And heck, even in that fight the 3T boost helped Sasuke react to an attack from behind.

I disagree with all these, but it doesn't really change the end result

Btw, you didn't say anything about Guy?

Saving it for my thread

 

[MeiouHades]

I'm genuinely scared to reply, it might trigger an actual Bible war.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

That doesn’t prove Kamui is inferior to Kakashi’s movement speed.

Kinda does given that he physically swung his arm to throw the kunai, and it's not like projectile speed is a whole tier above your physical speed anyways. If it was, characters would just blitz each other every time they threw things at each other. Not to mention that Madara's TSOs are fast enough to intercept Single Kamui from a farther distance than how far Madara was from Guy, meaning that even if Kakashi threw the kunai at infinite speed, Kakashi's arm swing still had to be faster than Kamui to throw the kunai before the TSO reached Guy.

The chapter right before this even shows Kakashi using Kamui to warp away Minato’s Rasengan rather than simply dodging it, which suggests Kamui was the only viable option

Kakashi was surprised then lifted off the ground before he could react, at which point Kamui was the best option he had.

Then there’s the issue of narrative intent. At no point during the War Arc was Kakashi’s reaction speed ever treated as something extraordinary. I can understand that argument being made for Minato to some extent, but definitely not for Kakashi. No character looked at him and thought his reactions were on such a godlike level that top tiers like BSM Naruto, Juubito, Rinne Rebirth Madara, or even one-eyed Madara couldn’t touch him due to some massive speed gap.
For god’s sake, by some of these interpretations, Kakashi’s final reaction speed would be 500 times faster than Juubito’s movement speed, which just doesn’t track with how the story actually portrays him.
Even more so, the feat in question was performed by an exhausted Kakashi with no mental amp involved.
With how insignificant the feat itself is, I'd just rule it as an outlier

Tbf, it doesn't make him untouchable since it's just a quick movement rather than something that'd allow him to dodge anything, and in all reality it's much less than 100x, but I can understand the outlier argument. If the problem staff have isn't the feat itself (which I still stand by being valid) and just moreso think it's inconsistent I'm maybe ok with that.

I disagree with all these, but it doesn't really change the end result

Saving it for my thread

 

[MattaGrimm]

Agree

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Bump

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Bump

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Bump

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Let us proceed with the rest.

 

[MeiouHades]

Let us proceed with the rest.

Cell did not say this shit

 

[MinatoSparkle]

^ is fun at parties

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Let us proceed with the rest.

As Stan Lee himself I can confirm cell in fact said this

 

[Sasukesama0492]

Why its 20.053c?? Isnt it 28.765c?

 

[Kaydee1648]

It’s a current profile problem
A higher end was accepted and ig no one bothered to update it

 

[Floxy178]

It's because higher end was proposed and accepted only towards end of the thread. Iirc most of implementation was already done by that time.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Bump

 

[MinatoSparkle]

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Do you have thoughts on the non-FTL parts of the CRT?

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Think there's a bit I have to update still with the new FTL stuff but just gonna placeholder bump for now