Since Bleach uses AP values, you need to propose what values everyone scales to and include suggested multiplers for the ratings.
Ok, I disagree with the first part of what you said as well, but I will mainly focus on this because I heavily disagree with using the meteor as an antifeat. Reason is simple: Gremmy imagined everyone will die because of the meteor. Thanks to his subjective reality, Gremmy can easily make multiple opponents die with a thought, without even people like Yachiru noticing his presence which suggests it was done without any physical action. Thus, the meteor being so dangerous is no antifeat.
the meteor will kill everyone cuz a seretei busting meteor is too powerful for anyone (most) of the verse to handle
Because he's stupid. I keep saying, Gremmy sucks at using his brain. Also, he was nerfed by plot to not do the same to zaraki.
And Zaraki casually slices it.
Yes, it did. In fact, gremmy also made so he can no longer die via wiping away every thought about his death. This also did nothing, because of bleach characters' ability to change the future by evolving in fights used by Zaraki who used his shikai for the first time in the fight.
Blame Gremmy for his stupidity&kubo for plot. Do you really think Kubo would just kill all of his characters like that?
Did he plant a bomb inside Guanael? Because sure as hell he blew him up before completely removing him from his mind.
What is the cause other than him imagining it for Yachiru's bones being torn into cookies? He doesn’t need to create things that would then affect others, they are directly subjects to his powers.
He isn't limited by that, lol.
Exactly. Heck, Gremmy knew Zaraki's power perfectly and still chose the meteor. This only further shows the meteor was not intended to kill everyone else via simply being far stronger than them
bro is a walking Infinity Gauntlet and he literally does nothing
If we're using part of the game, then Yamamoto, the strongest shinigami is losing to this shinigami without all his shards from the bird, and then collects the rest and now no one can beat him, why would we ever scale anyone to the bird?
Gremmy could still make the meteor harder in an instant or whatever. Also, why do you think he would hold back against zaraki if he used the meteor for its ap&dc?
the two interps you can have from him is
This is him NOT killing everyone if you haven't noticed
wtf does this mean?
we not throwing out logical anti feats by arguing the author doesnt know what hes doing
Could be? most of it is off screened, we can hypothesize on what it could most likely be but neither of us can make a definitive yes or no statement because it is not shown
he makes her bones into cookies --> cookies are brittle compared to bones --> her skeletal structure becomes brittle
Needed to double his power just to do the feat, ofcourse he is limited by that
I believe the reason for them shiing bricks was a random ryoka capable of doing so and not some known figure-
Also another point to notice is that I myself prefer using 1/36 power of the Kiko Oh or smth similar to Ichigo calcs, but yet again it'd be up to the decision we conclude by the end of this whole planet shenanigans.
the Arrancar (his name is hard forgive me for not typing it) was stated to be as strong as Yamamato through his own statements so he was sealed with the Sokyoku being the thing that suppress his powers, he later broke the seals via the shards caused by Sokyoku's destruction during the rescue then he got amped even more. It's not weird to assume that Sokyoku is still a pretty powerful weapon considering how all of the characters wanted to use the shards for their own cause. Albeit, as I told it's only a minor thing to point out knowing Kubo's involvement and the intentions of using the Sokyoku as an all powerful-weapon, yk?
Did I say anything else? Like, what are you even arguing against now?with the ability side of things, we are shown he's clearly not omnipotent, shown both in the manga as well as affirmed years later in Klub Outside answers
the first interp is what makes sense given everything, the second interp is just an NLF get out of jail free card, that's inconsistent with every single showing of gremmy's
Heavy disagree.
Please, tell me you don’t believe everyone who has the slightest clue about the effects of the vacuum of space over the body is "very intelligent". Never said he is the r-word(not sure it's allowed to use here, lol) or something like that. Just that he is stupid
Instead of keeping them a secret so he has better chances against his opponents who would just assume they are spells or illusions.
Even a kid would do this, that's clearly not a sign of being "very intelligent".
He literally made his clones just surround zaraki and explode basically doing Gotenks' kamikaze ghosts. Again, this is far from being very intelligent.
Traits an intelligent person would be aware of and try to control?
And I literally explained why this didn't happen?
Bruh, this is like "Why doesn't the solar system lvl character destroy the planet every time he fights?"
Ah, yes, a soundless bomb which blows up a 6B character
. And we literally see the entire thing on screen. Arhuing there is one is just an appeal to possibility, ngl. Unless explicitly shown or stated you can't just assume something.You said and I quote: "he affects people by introducing things which by their nature cause the effects as a consequence of it that the cast are hit with instead of afflicting them directly with it"
How does doubling his imagination's power mean his imagination is limited to only affecting people indirectly?
His meteor is like the only actually arguable antifeat, so it lowkey has to be discussed if it's brought up
I was hoping we can ignore any following argument that comes off as PIS or CIS. Not to make a whataboutism or a non squitur but we have moments like this in Naruto as well with thousands of Shinobis and Kages being afraid of a smaller meteor, making these arguments are pretty dishonest Icl.
I am genuinely confused, where anyone presented anything about Uni feats?
well said, I believe ItsMeat argued the matter multiple times in different forums (at least from what I remember.)
And most of those shinobi ended up dying... So the fear was justifiable and makes sense.
Anyways, list me as disagreeing with the upgrade.
I believe I have addressed must of these earlier, seeing the scans for the first link it's something that contradicts itself by statements like the Central 46 having judgement upon all of the SS (knowing other sub-branches which we discussed prior) with the next one showing "Souls that enter the SS enter the Rukongai / Seireitei" which would also reaffirm that the SS isn't somewhere known as a main land but rather the planet / dimension / society; you don't see the souls entering the Royal Palace nor Muken after entering the SS.
lol what?
Good arg
lol what?
I don’t scale the average shinobi to be a planet buster so this doesn’t make sense? The meteor on site also scales more than 20x higher than anyone present in the fight too?
I don’t wanna turn this crt into 5 pages discussing another series but this response was just terrible
yet again, I am not trying to prove Naruto being below meteor levels or anything, don't take my words as such. I'm just giving an example with these type of scenarios presented, we see these everywhere + as I said if we're getting the meteor to a level that cause contraindications with a 5B scaling then we should also remove any ratings for characters such as Renji or Yhwach post-meteor since they were concerned over the meteor.
I think it still says something that the seal is hard to remove and that instead of just attacking with their regular swords, they needed to use that. Ukitake goes out of his way to break the rules to get it and Soifon makes it apparent that is what is used to destroy the bird.
