Can CM2 interfere with CM1 or law of equivalent rank?

[Kavliaris]

The ritual and Heavenly Rejection is part of fundamental law governed by Immortal rank. Entering Nirvana(Quasi_immortal) able to intercept its mechanism, which Sacred Vessel authority couldn't block. Though its resolved by erecting canopy(?)

Q: Because of the Seven Stars Ritual, I think 28 stars would be visible wherever living beings live. Does this mean the stars in the sky will naturally arrange themselves, or are constellations that cannot be normally seen visible due to the Seven Heavenly Lords’ influence?

A: One finds the 28 stars that have the energy that fits the world they are in! Or a single star can have all 28 kinds of energy. In such ways, as long as the Northern Dipper Seven Heavenly Lords exist, the energy of Seven Stars Ritual is universal no matter what world you are in.

The domain upon which the Northern Dipper Seven Heavenly Lords laid their hands to some extent is transferred to my ownership.

: : From this very moment, all the stars of the Seven Stars Ritual... : :

Uduk, udududuk...!

By my authority, the fundamental principles of the world begin to be torn up and rearranged.

This is also a kind of arrangement for later generations.

: : ...shall forbid the phenomenon called Heavenly Rejection! From henceforth, Heavenly Rejected shall not exist under my name! : :

Jjeoeoeoeong!!

As the principles are torn away, from now on there will no longer be any chance for the phenomenon of Heavenly Rejection to fall upon an Ender.

Beyond this, there are other attacks as well, such as covering the sky of Cedarwood Painting with an unavoidable eternal morning sunlight.

Or erasing all starlight shining down on Cedarwood Painting so that the Heaven Tribe of Cedarwood Painting cannot surpass Qi Refining 7th star.

The morning sunlight, which even the Sacred Master's authority could not block, was resolved when Kim Yeon crea
ted a canopy that covers the entire world.

Spoiler: Entering Nirvana and Sacred Vessel

It is a scene of an Entering Nirvana True Person advancing to become a True Immortal.

The True Person advances.

Then, they advance again to become a Vestige Liberation Immortal, and once more to become an Earth Immortal.

It happens right then.

The descendants of that Earth Immortal begin to change all at once.

The authority of history becomes embedded in the blood of the descendants of the Earth Immortal, in other words, the one who advanced to become an Immortal Beast, transforming the descendants into a noble Demon Race possessing Immortal Beast True Blood.

The blood of the Earth Immortal itself becomes a living history and spiritual nature, enriching all of Heaven and Earth.

The [Path] chosen by the Earth Immortal, their domain, allows the entire universe to operate more vibrantly.

: : A cultivator who reaches the Star Shattering stage produces spiritual energy, those who reach the Sacred Vessel stage stabilize the world, and those who reach the Entering Nirvana stage establish the principles of the universe. High-level cultivators inherently aid the entire universe. Therefore, the more high-level cultivators—especially Supreme Deities at the pinnacle of cultivation—that exist, the 'easier' cultivation becomes for all. : :

is that sufficient argument for Entering Nirvana likely have CM1?

Maybe for Sacred Vessel, dependent concepts are co-existing together with reality or phenomena, but here it was extracted and exist seperately. I'm not sure if that qualified? or still type 2 concepts?

2. Dependent Concepts: Such concepts are abstract and govern all reality within their area of influence. These concepts shape everything, and changing them would either require the alteration of every object of the concept or, if manipulated directly, change all objects of the concept alongside the concept itself. These concepts, however, exist simultaneously with and are bound by the object of the concept. In this way, an abstract dependent concept can be destroyed by destroying all objects of the concept, restored by re-making an object of a previously existent concept, or changed by changing all objects of the concept across reality.

: : The Eight Paths shall bow and prostrate before this Immortal's principle. : :

Eight principles are engraved around the stellar system.

At the same time, I suddenly realize something.

The Eight Paths I possess.

In other words, the authority of the Sacred Vessel is being 'extracted' into that stellar system.

The Five Elements of Heaven and Earth obey Blood Yin's command, and at the same time, my Sacred Vessel authority is being stripped away by the Five Elements.

Along with that, Blood Yin's authority begins to forcibly impose the power of the Eight Paths over the entire Astral Realm, as if declaring the entire Astral Realm is his Sacred Master domain.

Q: How did Sacred Vessel cultivation change as Bong Myeong advanced to Governing Immortal?

A: Since they are the Liberation Supreme Deity, shedding the concept of body during Sacred Vessel stage became much easier.

It is the condensation of a nebula.

A nebula bearing the name [Seo Eun-hyun] compresses itself, filling its core with light and heat.

From the eight directions of the condensing nebula, certain symbols emerge.

Food (食), Wealth (貨), Sacrifice (祀), Minister of Works (司空), Minister of Education (司徒), Minister of Justice (司寇), Diplomacy (賓), Army (師).

The eight characters, engraved as glowing light, burn fiercely.

At the same time, the cluster of light splits in two directions, breaking into 16 fragments.

The eight concepts that existed in the life of [Seo Eun-hyun].

The concepts that defined [Seo Eun-hyun] as a [human] start to break apart, allowing the existence of Seo Eun-hyun to expand from being a [subject] to a [whole].

Among the 16 divided symbols, those that fall below become Qi (氣).

The symbols that rise above become Fate (命).

 

[Kavliaris]

bump

 

[Thermor]

Either the CM2 is straight up CM1 or provide antifeat.

 

[Kavliaris]

Either the CM2 is straight up CM1 or provide antifeat.

I initially thought the Middle Boundary law and concepts were dependent on the Heavenly Domain(universe). But the concept extraction feat works in a similar manner to True Immortal, where the concept remains from a phenomenon or object. Entering Nirvana interferes with Immortal Lord authority that couldn't be blocked by a Sacred Vessel CM(maybe layer), and below Sacred Vessel they can regain their authority back in a state transmuted into an Annihilation Flower.

The whole world is covered in darkness.

Seo Ran, who stands before me, is crumbling away into the shadows.

It's not just Seo Ran.

The ominous flower blooming from my chest is deconstructing even myself.

The ominous flower is devouring me.

I am being consumed by this ominous flower, known as the [Annihilation Flower].

And then...

As I become one with the Annihilation Flower, I finally understand.

The beings who have transcended the limits and boundaries of True Immortals.

Regarding the plans of the Governing Immortals!

I can feel the world being annihilated.

However, this annihilation is not the same as the [End] that just occurred moments ago.

If the typical [End] is when the universe's attraction force reaches its peaks, causing everything to contract and compress into light and heat...

Then the annihilation brought about by this [Annihilation Flower] is truly nothing but pure, black darkness!

It's not a proper End, but rather an act of simply 'overlaying' the concept of [Death] on the world!

'Ah...everything...has ended...'

I understand.

Now, as everything in my body is absorbed by the Annihilation Flower and its roots, I become annihilation (滅亡) itself and come to understand.

The first year is bearable.

But...two years pass, then three, then ten.

In this state as a flower petal, I am utterly incapable of doing anything.

Complete powerlessness (無力)!

However, I can feel my authority gradually returning.

At the outskirts of the Underworld, my authority as a Sacred Vessel Sacred Master begins to return.

In this form as a single flower petal, if I can just connect to the outskirts of the Netherworld after recovering all my authority, I can regain my strength.

But...

I have no way to do so.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Nah CM2 can't, so either the CM2 isn't really CM2 or the CM1 isn't CM1. Gave the post a very brief gander, and honestly it could just be very powerful law manip that can affect CM maybe? Idk the verse tho

 

[Kavliaris]

Nah CM2 can't, so either the CM2 isn't really CM2 or the CM1 isn't CM1. Gave the post a very brief gander, and honestly it could just be very powerful law manip that can affect CM maybe? Idk the verse tho

It's more a law-based verse where lower planes of fate, soul, and qi represent said concepts while not being contingent to reality (from an Immortal's perspective). A True Immortal can reclaim, extract, alter, split, merge, or push the interpretation of their law to concept.

"Though it is called Origin Essence, it is closer to the concept of a place rather than a property or a symbol. Yet, at the same time, it possesses no distinct form or shape. That is the [wind]. Regardless of the shape of the wind when one faces it, or how one rides it, that is the freedom of all beings. The wind can merge, split, change direction, or alter its form. The shape and direction of the wind, the way one meets the wind are all determined solely by the one who rides it."

"What matters is interpretation. Depending on how beings interpret that wind, its form changes, and so does how it is received. If it is interpreted as something indivisible, it would remain indivisible. But if good and evil is interpreted as being able to split, then it splits. If it is interpreted as good, it becomes good, but if it is interpreted as evil, it turns evil. The most representative example is the Seat of Good and Evil. And..."

Yet with that punch, the [Names] composing ■■■ scatter.

'He is directly striking the law of [Names] that exists in phenomena.'

The [Arms], [Legs], [Torso], [Meridians], [Immortal Body], [Inner World], and all other [Names] that make up ■■■ are struck, and the blows surpassing the physical force of reality break ■■■ apart.

The universe hums and trembles.

Hyeong Rang's screams burst from within the Palace of Radiance, scraping the conceptual fabric of every noun existing in this world for a moment.

At the same time, Hyeon Rang's neck, chest, and lower dantian—connected to me by attraction force through the curse—are all simultaneously torn apart. Furthermore, all the [names] linked to Hyeon Rang and the prophetic stars he possesses are ripped away as well.

I, having long since discarded the Immortal Title of Crystal Glass Being bestowed by Hyeon Rang, and Oh Hyun-seok, who never received one in the first place, suffer no shock at all. But the Ignorant One Glass Peacock, suffering the most, collapses on the spot with their eyes rolling back and frothing at the mouth.

Though the Glass Peacock is a being who can accept even considerable pain as pleasure, the shock from the loss of a fundamental name] seems to exceed even their limits.

[In the Three Heavens Great Thousand World, by the authority of the Owner of Names, I reclaim all [Names] of the Sumeru Three Heavens Great Thousand World...!]

With that one declaration, the vapor erupting around Hyeon Rang grows even denser.

At the same time, I feel an illusion as if my mind has suddenly gone blank.

'■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■?'

Even as I try to think, the very concept of nouns is gone.

No, at this level, it feels as though even the concept of 'letters' themselves has been erased.

[Names] have been defining the contours of the world, and with their disappearance, all boundaries in this world have become meaningless.

That's right.

The boundary between the Inner Sea and Outer Sea of Mount Sumeru blurs, and Mount Sumeru begins to collapse.

The Middle Boundary realm, aside from being more limited and smaller in scale,its concepts can more or less also be extracted from its phenomena? Which I find sits between CM2 and CM1. In addition, a Sacred Vessel is able to restore their authority in a transmutated state from Immortal Dao (Annihilation Flower), and Entering Nirvana establish and interferes with universal principle.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

It's more a law-based verse where lower planes of fate, soul, and qi represent said concepts while not being contingent to reality (from an Immortal's perspective). A True Immortal can reclaim, extract, alter, split, merge, or push the interpretation of their law to concept.




The Middle Boundary realm, aside from being more limited and smaller in scale,its concepts can more or less also be extracted from its phenomena? Which I find sits between CM2 and CM1. In addition, a Sacred Vessel is able to restore their authority in a transmutated state from Immortal Dao (Annihilation Flower), and Entering Nirvana establish and interferes with universal principle.

Ah, alright then, yeah sounds like (to me at least) that the true immortal's have laws that can affect various CM. So in the verse, it seems the metaphysical hierarchy is Law>CM instead of the reverse. Might wanna double check with some more knowledgeable peeps tho