Uchiha Family Revision - Sasuke Uchiha

[Testarossa002]

Hey
Looks like i'll be back to making naruto threads. There are a lot of stuff I have in mind for revisions that I simply couldn't let slide
Let's get into it
Introduction
This thread aims to upgrade Adult Sasuke's intelligence to Extraordinary Genius. Regardless of whether this aim is fulfilled, Sasuke still needs to get revised intel wise as his younger keys are somehow smarter than him normally. Above average Sasuke is simply atrocious

Spoiler: Justification

In addition to his already superior intellect, Sasuke also shows an understanding of various scientific fields such as gravity (Deva Path), space (Amenotejikara), electromagnetism (Lightning Release), and atomic science (Earth Style), as they are needed to perform the jutsu. His knowledge of these fields is superior to that of other ninjas, including those who are familiar with the individual fields. He is also capable of creating jutsu that are related to the Lorentz theory, which is an advanced scientific theory in the field of physics introduced by Hendrik Antoon Lorentz.
While Naruto is also shown to be highly intelligent in the understanding of chakra and its mechanism, many people, including opponents, consider Sasuke to be the more intelligent of the two ninjas. Naruto often relies on Sasuke to analyze the jutsu used by the opponent and break it down, even though he is also highly familiar with the mechanism of chakra.
Sasuke’s innate intelligence is regarded to be even more impressive than the analysis capabilities granted by the Sharingan. What is particularly noteworthy is that even in its initial form, the Sharingan is capable of performing very complex calculations—such as calculating the trajectory of multiple incoming attacks and calculating the most effective method of evading them simultaneously.
Moreover, Sasuke is regarded to possess the capacity for formulating and implementing complex strategies in the heat of battle.

Why does the justification qualify for EG?
Per our EG standards, the candidate needs to meet any of the following:

• have knowledge across multiple fields of science and vastly surpass what is obtainable irl
• surpass supercomputers
• create futuristic sci-fi stuff
• executing complex strategies under extreme pressure

Per my understanding, the justification satisfies all but the sci-fi stuff.

Miscellaneous
This technically doesn't need a CRT but I'm already here.
MAS on sasuke's profile is rates 56c even though that wasn't fully accepted in the thread (i wonder who added that). That should be changed to 28c

Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral:

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Sasuke def has great knowledge across multiple fields of science, but I'm not so sure about him vastly surpassing what is obtainable irl?

Also especially unsure about surpassing supercomputers. Sasuke should def at least have genius, but I'm a bit unsure about EG which is quite strict from what I know.

 

[KingTempest]

This is... most definitely not extraordinary genius?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I thought that extraordinary genius was no longer something achieved through combat feats (in fact, I don't think we even award intelligence for combat feats anymore)

Unlike general intelligence, combat skill is not ranked on a scale with labels like "Genius" or "Supergenius." Due to the many factors involved, a simple rating system would fail to accurately capture a character's combat proficiency. For instance, it wouldn’t make sense to say someone who can learn any real-world martial art by watching it for a minute is necessarily superior to someone who has mastered a single martial art to a superhuman level. These are different types of skill that can’t be easily compared.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Combat skill and BIQ aren't really the same

 

[Damage3245]

I think this is more Genius than Extraordinary Genius.

 

[DavidTPPM]

I think this can all be covered by a genius rating. The gap between "baseline" genius and "peak" genius is just extremely large so even tho Sasuke may be smarter than most geniuses that still doesn't qualify for EG

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Sasuke is in no way as intelligent as shikamaru who is a genius, if you mean in combat, he already have that rating, in "normal" intelligence" he could be gifted at best

Now, if you want to scale him to Naruto EG with chakra manipulation be my guess, up to you guys

 

[Syncornize]

Having strong analytical skills is good, but it’s not enough, especially if they are generic. What you listed is more of an upscaling within the section already covered under chakra understanding and manipulation , which has its own separate evaluation.

It would still be facilitated by the fact that the Sharingan indicates the direction . As far as we know, the trajectories that need to be calculated in order to dodge may be fewer than the total. But the way you put it, it would be something independent of the user

 

[DavidTPPM]

Sasuke is in no way as intelligent as shikamaru who is a genius, if you mean in combat, he already have that rating, in "normal" intelligence" he could be gifted at best

Shikamaru unironically doesn't get past Naruto in intelligence btw

Saucer absolutely clowns on him

 

[TheDeadman21]

Sasuke lacks any impressive scientific feats to be considered for an extraordinary genius rating imo.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Shikamaru unironically doesn't get past Naruto in intelligence btw

Saucer absolutely clowns on him

This is what the popularity of Naruto leads people to believe guys

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Shikamaru unironically doesn't get past Naruto in intelligence btw

Saucer absolutely clowns on him

Erm

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Erm

“In the village”

Also hype text

 

[Godernet]

Genius is def more apt here

 

[Arkenis]

Sasuke’s innate intelligence is regarded to be even more impressive than the analysis capabilities granted by the Sharingan. What is particularly noteworthy is that even in its initial form, the Sharingan is capable of performing very complex calculations—such as calculating the trajectory of multiple incoming attacks and calculating the most effective method of evading them simultaneously.

Jigen's just saying it's more impressive as an attribute of Sasuke, not that it's better than the Sharingan in general.

the Sharingan is capable of performing very complex calculations—such as calculating the trajectory of multiple incoming attacks and calculating the most effective method of evading them simultaneously.

And this is being better than a supercomputer? It's not enough projectiles ngl, nor do I think this is synonymous with supercomputers computational ability. Also, uh, Sharingan does it because its the literal power to predict, the EG requirement states:

"Outperforming supercomputers" is here used as an umbrella term for the ability to perform extremely advanced thought processes such as calculations and multitasking. Perceiving the surrounding world in slow-motion, and similar feats, due to vastly superhuman Speed, is not remotely sufficient to qualify by itself.

Sure wonder who fixed part 1 and 2 intell sections for Sasuke

 

[MinatoSparkle]

“In the village”

Also hype text

Could maybe goon it not including Sasuke, but it definitely puts him above Naruto.

 

[Aytugsss]

Hey
Looks like i'll be back to making naruto threads. There are a lot of stuff I have in mind for revisions that I simply couldn't let slide
Let's get into it
Introduction
This thread aims to upgrade Adult Sasuke's intelligence to Extraordinary Genius. Regardless of whether this aim is fulfilled, Sasuke still needs to get revised intel wise as his younger keys are somehow smarter than him normally. Above average Sasuke is simply atrocious

Spoiler: Justification

In addition to his already superior intellect, Sasuke also shows an understanding of various scientific fields such as gravity (Deva Path), space (Amenotejikara), electromagnetism (Lightning Release), and atomic science (Earth Style), as they are needed to perform the jutsu. His knowledge of these fields is superior to that of other ninjas, including those who are familiar with the individual fields. He is also capable of creating jutsu that are related to the Lorentz theory, which is an advanced scientific theory in the field of physics introduced by Hendrik Antoon Lorentz.
While Naruto is also shown to be highly intelligent in the understanding of chakra and its mechanism, many people, including opponents, consider Sasuke to be the more intelligent of the two ninjas. Naruto often relies on Sasuke to analyze the jutsu used by the opponent and break it down, even though he is also highly familiar with the mechanism of chakra.
Sasuke’s innate intelligence is regarded to be even more impressive than the analysis capabilities granted by the Sharingan. What is particularly noteworthy is that even in its initial form, the Sharingan is capable of performing very complex calculations—such as calculating the trajectory of multiple incoming attacks and calculating the most effective method of evading them simultaneously.
Moreover, Sasuke is regarded to possess the capacity for formulating and implementing complex strategies in the heat of battle.

Why does the justification qualify for EG?
Per our EG standards, the candidate needs to meet any of the following:

• have knowledge across multiple fields of science and vastly surpass what is obtainable irl
• surpass supercomputers
• create futuristic sci-fi stuff
• executing complex strategies under extreme pressure

Per my understanding, the justification satisfies all but the sci-fi stuff.

Miscellaneous
This technically doesn't need a CRT but I'm already here.
MAS on sasuke's profile is rates 56c even though that wasn't fully accepted in the thread (i wonder who added that). That should be changed to 28c

Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral:

Extraordinary genius could be a little to much
Genius is okay for me

 

[DragoZeroNova]

I think Above Average is too high, put him to At most Average to represent his deadbeat behaviour.

 

[Aytugsss]

I think Above Average is too high, put him to At most Average to represent his deadbeat behaviour.

Average its to low for sasuke
He should be Genius for me

 

[Testarossa002]

Sasuke def has great knowledge across multiple fields of science, but I'm not so sure about him vastly surpassing what is obtainable irl?

we'd have a discussion one day about how the latter part is inherently tied to fictional aid but today is not that day

Also especially unsure about surpassing supercomputers

okay

This is... most definitely not extraordinary genius?

I think this is more Genius than Extraordinary Genius.

Genius is def more apt here

You can't just say it isn't without addressing WHY it's not
I feel we're all glossing over how significant the jutsu understanding is
Per jutsu mechanics, Sasuke NEEDS to understand ALL the interlaced factors that make up his chidori or his chibaku tensei. And that is just at a baseline level. It's not optional knowledge. Even dumbass Naruto, despite being a noteworthy outlier, still understands the scientific principle behind his wind release but can't properly express his knowledge to others. Sasuke has honed his lightning release (and other jutsus) to a level considerably higher than other ninjas
I also mentioned how Naruto (who has EG for chakra understanding) still needs sasuke to analyze jutsu for him.
I can't force you to do so, but it'll be preferable if you address it.

Sasuke is in no way as intelligent as shikamaru who is a genius

Or just means a shikamaru upscale if you're willing to die on that hill?

Jigen's just saying it's more impressive as an attribute of Sasuke, not that it's better than the Sharingan in general.

He didn't say that it's better than the sharingan in general. He specifically mentions the kinetic abilities of the sharingan (jutsu reading, ANPR etc). A general statement would warrant your rebuttal. Afterall, Sasuke can't be sharper than a genjutsu

Also, uh, Sharingan does it because its the literal power to predict, the EG requirement states:

that's the point. the sharingan via its innate features can do computational stuff. Sasuke can surpass that with his natural intelligence
Anyway, i'll concede on the supercomputer point. Did more research and can't proceed with that line of thought in good faith for now

Average its to low for sasuke
He should be Genius for me

he's joking (high key spitting facts)

 

[Arkenis]

He didn't say that it's better than the sharingan in general. He specifically mentions the kinetic abilities of the sharingan (jutsu reading, ANPR etc). A general statement would warrant your rebuttal. Afterall, Sasuke can't be sharper than a genjutsu

He isn't comparing Sasuke's intelligence to the Sharingan's vision in a literal sense, he's just saying what's more impressive is Sasuke's intelligence. In other words, a fighter who's good with a sword, but their planning in battle is more impressive as an attribute.

 

[Testarossa002]

He just saw Sasuke break down his jutsu and says that Sasuke's attribute is more impressive than the other attribute that's factory-built to break down jutsu. But yeah, not a direct comparison

Anyway, i'll concede on the supercomputer point. Did more research and can't proceed with that line of thought in good faith for now

 

[Testarossa002]

Looks like Genius is more in favour
If the votes don't change by tomorrow, that will be applied, and this thread will be closed

 

[DavidTPPM]

Erm

There's different types of intelligence. Naruto is a doofus in most areas and only excels in combat so that makes sense.

You'd probably consider a war general or a scientist as smarter than a really smart boxer or something like that. So Shikamaru is probably a lot smarter in general but Naruto is a lot smarter in combat IQ specifically

 

[MinatoSparkle]

There's different types of intelligence. Naruto is a doofus in most areas and only excels in combat so that makes sense.

You'd probably consider a war general or a scientist as smarter than a really smart boxer or something like that. So Shikamaru is probably a lot smarter in general but Naruto is a lot smarter in combat IQ specifically

Seems like an unnecessary qualifier, especially when Shikamaru's intellect has mostly been noted in battle, but wtv.

 

[Testarossa002]

Looks like Genius is more in favour
If the votes don't change by tomorrow, that will be applied, and this thread will be closed

this has been applied and can now be closed