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Yeah, I'm just a bit busy. I'll see if I can't get this done within the week though.
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Bleach Speed Revisions Part 1: Phantom Shinigami
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Apologize for taking a while to respond, I don't have an excuse, I was just being lazy and spending my free time with other things 
0# - Premise:
So, my stance is that Resurrección and Hollowfication are essentially the same thing--they provide similar physical benefits--with the only difference being the way either group attains this additional power.
1# - Hollowfication and Arrancarization:
Before we can even think about comparing anything, we must first supply a working description for both:
Hollowfication, as described, is an experimental process where a Soul is imparted with the spiritual make-up of a Hollow, resulting in the boundaries that exist within, to be destroyed. Its intended effect, as explained by Kisuke, is to bestow spiritual powers of a Hollow onto a Shinigami. These effects are demonstrated by Vizards like Ichigo and Shinji, who can access Hollow-specific techniques; possess Hollow-like Reiryoku; making them functionally similar to Hollows.
Arrancarization, as described, is a process wherein a Hollow removes their mask in an effort to attain a more "Shinigami-like" state. If done successfully, a Hollow is imbued with spiritual characteristics of a Shinigami. It results in the emergence of a Zanpakuto, which possess release state similar to Shikai and Bankai; attaining Shinigami-like Reiryoku; making them functionally similar to Shinigami.
2# - Comparison:
Here, I will provide a clear, concise view on the commonalities between both. And more specifically, why these commonalities would be heavily associated with the multiplicative nature of their respective ability.
A set of important commonalities are as follows:
Both function the same; both are derived from overcoming inherent boundaries by introducing the other's opposing nature; it imbues them with the spiritual strengths and characteristics of the other. Everything I, and everyone else who supports my interpretation has laid out, seemingly point to a simple conclusion: Hollowfication and Arrancarization are fundamentally the same--the only difference is one of procedure and activation, not functionality.
0# - Premise:
So, my stance is that Resurrección and Hollowfication are essentially the same thing--they provide similar physical benefits--with the only difference being the way either group attains this additional power.
1# - Hollowfication and Arrancarization:
Before we can even think about comparing anything, we must first supply a working description for both:
Hollowfication, as described, is an experimental process where a Soul is imparted with the spiritual make-up of a Hollow, resulting in the boundaries that exist within, to be destroyed. Its intended effect, as explained by Kisuke, is to bestow spiritual powers of a Hollow onto a Shinigami. These effects are demonstrated by Vizards like Ichigo and Shinji, who can access Hollow-specific techniques; possess Hollow-like Reiryoku; making them functionally similar to Hollows.
Arrancarization, as described, is a process wherein a Hollow removes their mask in an effort to attain a more "Shinigami-like" state. If done successfully, a Hollow is imbued with spiritual characteristics of a Shinigami. It results in the emergence of a Zanpakuto, which possess release state similar to Shikai and Bankai; attaining Shinigami-like Reiryoku; making them functionally similar to Shinigami.
2# - Comparison:
Here, I will provide a clear, concise view on the commonalities between both. And more specifically, why these commonalities would be heavily associated with the multiplicative nature of their respective ability.
A set of important commonalities are as follows:
- Hollowfication and Arrancarization, as demonstrated above, are the same process, for different populations. Hollowfication is for Souls, specifically Shinigami in our situation--Arrancarization is for Hollows.
- Hollowfication and Arrancarization imbues the affected population with the spiritual strengths of the other. A Shinigami is imbued with the strengths of a Hollow--a Hollow is imbued with the strengths of a Shinigami.
- Specifically, when it comes to activatable enhancements, Hollowfication and Arrancarization provide them. In the case of Hollowfication, it is the Hollow mask--in the case of Arrancarization, it is Resurrección. Furthermore, neither is demonstrated or mechanically indicated to be superior in any meaningful way, both are achieved by actualizing the new, spiritual component within them. A Shinigami releasing the spiritual strengths of a Hollow by activating their Hollowfication--A Hollow releasing the spiritual strengths of a Shinigami by activating their Resurrección.
Both function the same; both are derived from overcoming inherent boundaries by introducing the other's opposing nature; it imbues them with the spiritual strengths and characteristics of the other. Everything I, and everyone else who supports my interpretation has laid out, seemingly point to a simple conclusion: Hollowfication and Arrancarization are fundamentally the same--the only difference is one of procedure and activation, not functionality.
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I didn't really plan on giving an update, but I realise I said earlier that I would try to get it done within the week, so I should probably give an update
Due to the state of speed in Bleach, I've had to add new scans, references, justifications and even speed sections for characters as previously outlined. So it's not just a simple value change. If you look at the bottom of the OP, I have started on some pages, but I'm not done yet.
The ETA for when this CRT finishes is sometime in April. That's because of two reasons. First, I have IRL stuff to do (like exams and such). Second, I've been sick for over a week (which has really messed with my IRL stuff too). So, I've pushed back actually editing pages to next month. So yeah, this CRT is finished and pages are being edited, but it'll be a while before I finish. This hasn't been forgotten, don't worry.
Due to the state of speed in Bleach, I've had to add new scans, references, justifications and even speed sections for characters as previously outlined. So it's not just a simple value change. If you look at the bottom of the OP, I have started on some pages, but I'm not done yet.
The ETA for when this CRT finishes is sometime in April. That's because of two reasons. First, I have IRL stuff to do (like exams and such). Second, I've been sick for over a week (which has really messed with my IRL stuff too). So, I've pushed back actually editing pages to next month. So yeah, this CRT is finished and pages are being edited, but it'll be a while before I finish. This hasn't been forgotten, don't worry.
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I've almost finished the CRT, but there's one change that I do need to address that I made during revisions because I realised I forgot to change it after I added the Flash Step part to my CRT and that is Nanao's Speed.
I've updated the OP to reflect the proposal, but I originally said Nanao would be At most Hypersonic+ (Mach 21.3415 or 7320.1506 m/s), higher with Shunpo. After reviewing the panels, I've come to the conclusion it should be At least Hypersonic (Mach 7.4139 or 2542.961 m/s), At most Hypersonic+ (Mach 21.3415 or 7320.1506 m/s) with Shunpo.
While this is not a big change, I just wanted to inform you all in case this is an issue as this is a legitimate rating change that wasn't originally in the OP.
Also, since @Random-Helper323 is a content mod, could you unlock Ichigo's page so I can revise him?
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Unlocked. Let me know when it's done so I can lock it again.
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I've performed the edit. If it looks good it can be closed.
Assuming there are no objections to Nanao's speed change (as outlined above), this thread can be closed as well.
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