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Naruto Uzumaki vs Eugard Vollachia

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This surprisingly seems doable with some restrictions.

Fourth Shinobi World War Naruto.

Naruto can only go up to Kyūbi Chakra Mode.

Speed isn't equalized as Naruto scales above 0.028c, while Eugard scales to 0.041c for now.

Eugard doesn't have The Fiend Sword Murasame, so no concept cutting.

Who wins?

Naruto:

Eugard:

Inconclusive:
 
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None, I could restrict him to Kyūbi Chakra Mode, but idk if that's even neccessary Eugard still has the Yang Sword which can destroy souls with only a scratch and is absurdly skilled, not to mention having already fought another shinobi.

But yea I suppose I will restrict Naruto.
 
Well Eugard is Priscilla's ancestor so yea.

And I restricted the Fiend Sword for a reason, it can cut the point in anything, which includes concepts, so all he would need to do literally is swing the sword in Naruto's direction and it's gg.

But yea ignoring the Yang Sword which can incinerate souls, Eugard's main thing is his AD where he went from a mid tier to a legit top tier, 7-B to 6-B, Sub-relativistic to FTL, and this includes skill, so the standard Re:Zero top tier nonsense applies slowing down perception of time, predicting several moves ahead into the future, reducing the damage he has attacks taken, redirecting attacks, moving faster than thought.

Also it's been made clear in recent chapters what we already suspected that these guys legit break logic, Theresia for example wasn't someone you could reach via logic, as even an eternity of training wouldn't let you reach her, even the most skilled people in the kingdom, where just flawed from her perspective and no amount of guidance she gave them could bridge the gap.

Could also get into the lower tier skill feats like accurately targeting stuff with your senses turned off, dodging dozens of invisible attacks etc.
 
Well Eugard is Priscilla's ancestor so yea.

And I restricted the Fiend Sword for a reason, it can cut the point in anything, which includes concepts, so all he would need to do literally is swing the sword in Naruto's direction and it's gg.
Unless the sword does a Omni-directional attack that can out speed nards blitz level shunshin which for reference can go from the center of this hole to its edge practically instantly

Not to mention nard would sense what his opponent is gonna do and just pre-dodge or blitz him
But yea ignoring the Yang Sword which can incinerate souls, Eugard's main thing is his AD where he went from a mid tier to a legit top tier, 7-B to 6-B, Sub-relativistic to FTL, and this includes skill,
How long did that take? Like a few skirmishes? Or extended matches across multiple confrontations?
so the standard Re:Zero top tier nonsense applies slowing down perception of time, predicting several moves ahead into the future, reducing the damage he has attacks taken, redirecting attacks, moving faster than thought.
Naruto is skilled in his own right, to start he can go head to head with the sharingan. To put that into perspective the sharingan at its
These predictive capabilities are powerful enough to work on hundreds of people at the same time while providing perfect counters to all their attacks. Naruto was countering and out predicting the sharingan with all its analytical capabilities without any form of prediction or sensing capabilities of his own. Moreover he can fight against byakugan users who have their own form of kinetic analytical prediction that allows them to hit needle-sized points on a moving opponent.

Even an average shinobi are already master martial artists, as to become a genin - the lowest shinobi rank, you need to get through exams that verify you have the basic skills necessary. These children are already taught advanced martial arts, allowing them to knock people unconscious with a single karate chop. And yet even young untrained Naruto was already capable of inventing jonin class (highest rank shinobi) martial arts that brilliantly combines taijutsu with ninjutsu simply by watching Sasuke perform a similar taijutsu move a single time.

Going further we have Frog Kata, a form of martial art said to be a "flawless taijutsu" which "leaves no openings in defense or offense”. These attacks are so perfect that it redirects all the energy used by its user and opponents back to said opponent akin to attack reflection. Moreover characters in Naruto, when sufficiently skilled enough are able to read the minds of those they physically touch, exchanging any and everything they think about. This ties back to my previous points, as I have explained above, Naruto can react to and counter analytical predictions that give its users “flawless” counter and attacks, while his opponents also being able to counter Naruto’s own “flawless” martial arts, ontop of all that they are reading each other’s minds

Not as impressive as the ones above but still worth mentioning, Naruto is able to accurately hit targets from a large distance. We commonly see Naruto block fast incoming projectiles such as arrows by matching them with his own small projectiles. He's also capable of bending the trajectory of objects he throw and even throws the projectiles in a way that sets up his enemy into a vulnerable position for Naruto to grab it and slam it directly into them. Even in short/point blank ranges Naruto is able to hit targets with such accuracy that it redirects their attack back towards them (albeit with the help of Sage mode in this case).

This is all before he gets his own analytical prediction.
Also it's been made clear in recent chapters what we already suspected that these guys legit break logic, Theresia for example wasn't someone you could reach via logic, as even an eternity of training wouldn't let you reach her, even the most skilled people in the kingdom, where just flawed from her perspective and no amount of guidance she gave them could bridge the gap.
That doesn’t seem to be logic manipulation
Could also get into the lower tier skill feats like accurately targeting stuff with your senses turned off, dodging dozens of invisible attacks etc.
Is fighting without your senses really that impressive?
 
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Idk why we are arguing about the Fiend Sword, but from memory its like an invisible attack which cuts whatever is in its direction, also just hitting something associated with one thing, affects the other ie it hit Groovy's sound attack, and as a result Groovy lost his voice, so basically if it hit a shadow clone, the real Naruto would still get hit.

Eugard's AD lets him get stronger and faster very quickly, if he can't hit you now, he would be able to in 10 seconds, basically as I said in a single fight he caught up to Halilbel.

Naruto's skill feats doesn't seem that much different from standard thing in Re Zero mid tiers, but I will let the others who like engaging with that go down the rabbit hole of skill.

I don't think Re Zero has logic manipulation, I mentioned them breaking logic, as it being a real thing in story that once you reach a certain level you can do otherwise impossible stuff. They frequently do stuff that should be impossible cough cough rain dodging, but that's normal for them. But yea its not logic as the wiki defines it more so they explictly break the laws of physics, so stuff which seem nonsensical like the Sword Saint being unreachable in skill even with an eternity of training is no hyperbole, neither is Reid being infinitely above Cecilus who is already above a sword saint.

Fighting without senses is just 1 way to measure skill, a mid tier like Elsa is explicitly vulnerable to a spell that takes away her senses like sight, hearing etc, and despite that, somehow dodged an aoe attack, and accurate threw her weapon and hit someone in their vitals far away. Also Elsa countered Puck's countless ice attacks with skill btw.

But yea I don't want to ramble too much, too many angles to go at "skill", analytical prediction is a standard thing for any warrior, even an 8 year old Emilia can predict and dodge attacks faster than she can see, I find the other stuff more interesting like 8 year old Ram having such control over her body she can avoid an aoe explosion with no fatal injuries, or characters consistely letting attacks flow through them so they don't take damage, or turning in a certain way which negates the impact of attacks or reditecting the force of impacts etc, its hard to hit them, and even if you do, they don't take damage.
 
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Ignoring the skill slop bs for now, if literally nothing goes Naruto's way he can just summon Ma and Pa and have them use Frog Song which is one of the most overpowered Genjutsu in all of Naruto with layers out the ass and basically impossible to avoid.
 
Idk why we are arguing about the Fiend Sword, but from memory its like an invisible attack which cuts whatever is in its direction, also just hitting something associated with one thing, affects the other ie it hit Groovy's sound attack, and as a result Groovy lost his voice, so basically if it hit a shadow clone, the real Naruto would still get hit.
I was just putting it out there
Eugard's AD lets him get stronger and faster very quickly, if he can't hit you now, he would be able to in 10 seconds, basically as I said in a single fight he caught up to Halilbel.
Mori Jin ahhhh
Naruto's skill feats doesn't seem that much different from standard thing in Re Zero mid tiers, but I will let the others who like engaging with that go down the rabbit hole of skill.
There is more stuff like fighting aliens that have a millenniums worth of experience, knowledge and techniques but that’s at later stages in his life so it’s not that relevant
I don't think Re Zero has logic manipulation, I mentioned them breaking logic, as it being a real thing in story that once you reach a certain level you can do otherwise impossible stuff. They frequently do stuff that should be impossible cough cough rain dodging, but that's normal for them. But yea its not logic as the wiki defines it more so they explictly break the laws of physics, so stuff which seem nonsensical like the Sword Saint being unreachable in skill even with an eternity of training is no hyperbole, neither is Reid being infinitely above Cecilus who is already above a sword saint.
Sure
Fighting without senses is just 1 way to measure skill, a mid tier like Elsa is explicitly vulnerable to a spell that takes away her senses like sight, hearing etc, and despite that, somehow dodged an aoe attack, and accurate threw her weapon and hit someone in their vitals far away. Also Elsa countered Puck's countless ice attacks with skill btw.
Nard also has characters like these, prime example being blind Madara who is fight all the sharingan, flawless martial arts, kinetic vision stuff and teleportation by multiple EG folks. Lesser examples include those who fight Sharingan users, as they are unable to make eye contact with them and have to rely solely upon watching their opponents feet or instinct. Shinobi also fight without making use of their sixth sense as in everyone just resists it so even though it’s passively active all the time.
But yea I don't want to ramble too much, too many angles to go at "skill", analytical prediction is a standard thing for any warrior, even an 8 year old Emilia can predict and dodge attacks faster than she can see,
Base sharingan allows for this and kid nard was also in the same ballpark. Many of the kids in the academy also undergo shuriken and kunai training which facilitates them to predict the trajectory of moving targets and use their own weapons to intercept said moving targets. These get to a point that they can change direction mid air, hit moving targets that they can’t even see and these are all done in danmakus
I find the other stuff more interesting like 8 year old Ram having such control over her body she can avoid an aoe explosion with no fatal injuries, or characters consistely letting attacks flow through them so they don't take damage, or turning in a certain way which negates the impact of attacks or reditecting the force of impacts etc, its hard to hit them, and even if you do, they don't take damage.
These are such absurd things I can’t even say anything about it
 
In terms of powers rather than skills, Eugard obviously has his Yang Sword which ends the fight if it or its flames make contact since they burn the soul relentlessly.

His passive curse inflicts intense pain with thorns stabbing one's heart on anyone within a few hundred metres. That curse is so painful that zombies who don't even blink the pain getting dismembered or burned alive can't get near him.

As a zombie himself, Eugard has fairly quick high-mid regen, and applicable low-godly resurrection when his core is destroyed.
 
In terms of powers rather than skills, Eugard obviously has his Yang Sword which ends the fight if it or its flames make contact since they burn the soul relentlessly.
Restricted
His passive curse inflicts intense pain with thorns stabbing one's heart on anyone within a few hundred metres. That curse is so painful that zombies who don't even blink the pain getting dismembered or burned alive can't get near him.
Resists pain manipulation
As a zombie himself, Eugard has fairly quick high-mid regen, and applicable low-godly resurrection when his soul is destroyed.
Nard has limited regennegation upto low godly but Ed’s resurrection will be a problem
 
Ignoring the skill slop bs for now, if literally nothing goes Naruto's way he can just summon Ma and Pa and have them use Frog Song which is one of the most overpowered Genjutsu in all of Naruto with layers out the ass and basically impossible to avoid.
This is probably Naruto's only fool proof wincon here to be honest.
 
Restricted
No it ain't. The Fiend Sword Murasame, which cuts concepts and logic, is restricted since it's optional equipment. The Yang Sword Vollachia is something Eugard can draw from empty space whenever he wants.

Resists pain manipulation
How good?

Nard has limited regennegation upto low godly but Ed’s resurrection will be a problem
Helps with the regen, but yeah Naruto will need to either destroy Eugard's soul or incap him.
 
No it ain't. The Fiend Sword Murasame, which cuts concepts and logic, is restricted since it's optional equipment. The Yang Sword Vollachia is something Eugard can draw from empty space whenever he wants.
I see, nard should have soul regen as lesser characters with no regen what so ever have shown to be able to regen their souls after vaporizating it, plus they can regen chakra which is made from their mind + soul.

This is assuming he does get hit which realistically isn’t happening for some time
How good?
Resisted pain that causes incorporeal masses of chakra to feel pain while they were mind controlled. He also has supernatural will power which allows him is withstand his skin being peeled off, stabbed through the chest and having his internals hit
Helps with the regen, but yeah Naruto will need to either destroy Eugard's soul or incap him.
Nard has frog summons that can use genjutsu to subdue and seal him
 
I see, nard should have soul regen as lesser characters with no regen what so ever have shown to be able to regen their souls after vaporizating it, plus they can regen chakra which is made from their mind + soul.
It goes without saying that the body burns alongside the soul, and it can't be extinguished, so it's pretty guaranteed death with like a few tens of seconds.

Resisted pain that causes incorporeal masses of chakra to feel pain while they were mind controlled. He also has supernatural will power which allows him is withstand his skin being peeled off, stabbed through the chest and having his internals hit
Eugard's curse incapacitates characters that hardly feel a thing from burning to death or being shattered to pieces. They don't tough it out or anything, such things are just not very painful to them on a physiological level, yet they can't approach Eugard due to the agony.
 
It goes without saying that the body burns alongside the soul, and it can't be extinguished, so it's pretty guaranteed death with like a few tens of seconds.
Ok, but can it overcome nards defenses that doesn’t allows for anything to touch his body which includes microscopic needles and things like amatarasu (which doesn’t extinguish until the victim is turned to ash), outerpath chains which binds the users soul. So I have some problems with the idea that this sword can even breach nards defenses
Eugard's curse incapacitates characters that hardly feel a thing from burning to death or being shattered to pieces. They don't tough it out or anything, such things are just not very painful to them on a physiological level, yet they can't approach Eugard due to the agony.
Tailed beast and subsequently their Edo Jin’s don’t posses any biological or physical traits as their Edo’s body are made from a paper esc material and tailed beast are made from pure chakra without any biological functions. So them feeling pain even though they don’t have any pain receptors is a far more potent pain manipulation, furthermore, tailed beasts are masses of chakra which is soul + mind so this pain can be inferred to being on spiritual level. This is all before Naruto’s supernatural will power which I explained earlier.
 
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Ok, but can it overcome nards defenses that doesn’t allows for anything to touch his body which includes microscopic needles and things like amatarasu (which doesn’t extinguish until the victim is turned to ash), outerpath chains which binds the users soul. So I have some problems with the idea that this sword can even breach nards defenses
Amaterasu is a fire whereas Yang sword is way more versatile than that even being able to cut space, not to mention it can phase through his defenses and attack his main body directly
Tailed beast and subsequently their Edo Jin’s don’t posses any biological or physical traits as their Edo’s body are made from a paper esc material and tailed beast are made from pure chakra without any biological functions. So them feeling pain even though they don’t have any pain receptors is a far more potent pain manipulation, furthermore, tailed beasts are masses of chakra which is soul + mind so this pain can be inferred to being on spiritual level. This is all before Naruto’s supernatural will power which I explained earlier.

Re:Zero zombies are also inorganic, being made from earth, so that point doesn’t really change anything. If anything, the fact that Tailed Beasts feel pain implies they do possess some mechanism for sensing it, just not biological pain receptors like humans. Meanwhile, the Edo Tensei didn’t display any reaction to pain in combat. The zombies, similarly, don’t feel pain either, yet they were still instantly incapacitated by the thorns. Anyways, how does this relate to Naruto anyway? he is not an Edo tensei nor is he a tailed beast
 
Amaterasu is a fire whereas Yang sword is way more versatile than that even being able to cut space, not to mention it can phase through his defenses and attack his main body directly
Amatarasu is also very versatile in its application but it can’t cut space unfortunately 😔. As for the phasing part, Naruto defenses don’t allow for anything to touch him, this comes from chakras inate NPI (mind, soul, elements, space-time portals) that can reject other forms of immaterial things. Not that matters as even if the sword gets through his defenses, Naruto resists NPI so it would not be able to touch his soul making it unusable.
Re:Zero zombies are also inorganic, being made from earth, so that point doesn’t really change anything. If anything, the fact that Tailed Beasts feel pain implies they do possess some mechanism for sensing it, just not biological pain receptors like humans.
That’s completely unfounded, they are living masses of chakra. Yes they can take on a physical form with biological functions but the instance I am talking about is their cloaked form which doesn’t have any physical properties due to their Jin’s being Edo. Furthermore these cloaked Jin’s have TBB explode inside them yet there is no reaction of pain or discomfort, this is what I mean by them not having any biological functions and are just a combination of mind and soul.

As far as this argument goes, tailed beasts feeling pain at bare minimum equal to if not greater than the pain mentioned by rezero folks. So Naruto will be able to resist this level of pain potency as he has resistance to pain manipulation
Meanwhile, the Edo Tensei didn’t display any reaction to pain in combat. The zombies, similarly, don’t feel pain either, yet they were still instantly incapacitated by the thorns. Anyways, how does this relate to Naruto anyway? he is not an Edo tensei nor is he a tailed beast
Naruto is not an Edo yes but he has resistance to pain manipulation and Zab asked me to define the level of pain manipulation Naruto can resist so thats what I was doing.
 
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I am going to assume that Ed is starting from 7B and then jumps to 6B with a few altercations with nard. This jump would be instantly picked up by nard making him go on the defensive, after which he snipes Ed with a long range rasenshuriken. Sees that Ed resurrects and understands he has no real way of killing him so he summons Ma and Pa to perform frog song. In which case it’s a insta win for nard.

Naruto has same skill level and more as the average Rezero character (even though nards ones are described as being perfect while I have yet to see anything that’s described as such from the Re0 side) and this is before we stack his own analytical prediction ontop all that smth Rezero characters do using analytical prediction nard does without.

Ed’s healing is also a no go since nard has limited Regennegation (low godly). The yang sword is also useless here as Naruto’s cloaks NPI would just stop it from reaching Naruto’s body but even if we were to assume that it does get past Naruto’s defenses, Naruto resists NPI on his soul so the Yang Sword would not be able to touch it. Furthermore, Naruto has resistance to heat manipulation (10,000 F) so I also doubt that it’s gonna burn him at all given that there is no heat value for the Yang sword’s fire.

Naruto resists ESP of Shinboi that extend their consciousness into their surrounding, can hide his bloodlust while hiding make Ed’s sensory useless while he himself is not immune to nards emotion sensing.

I didn’t even mention all the clones that Naruto can make and get of jail free cards like shunshin or substitution jutsu

With an overwhelming advantage, I am voting for nard
 
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