My Hero Academia: Wild Card proposal for Shigaraki but we move (Plus All For One addition)

[CastoriceTheFifth]

And another thing, when Deku hits Shigaraki's Quirkless Flying UA, his torso flies off, leaving a large hole where there's really nothing there. At that moment, his adaptation led him to regenerate a new upper body instead of simply healing, discarding the old head as well.
I'm highlighting this mainly to clarify that if needed, Shigaraki can regenerate another head even without regeneration.

Also yeah had to check the anime too. Brother just disregarded his old brain/head and regenerated out a new one.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Btw the comparison between this crt and the other ongoing Shigaraki crt is hilarious but it’s crazy how they both have 3-4 pages in the year 2026

 

[RaikiKurohane99]

Getting the easy part out of the way. Rewind All For One should get Self-Soul Manipulation due to him being able to rewind his own soul and heal it like Eri is capable of doing with Deku's soul due to using the same quirk.

Rather than self-Soul Manipulation, this is textbook Restoration.

Restoration

Restoration is an ability that enables individuals to repair and reconstruct objects that have been broken or destroyed. Users of Restoration possess the power to seamlessly return objects to their original state prior to damage or restore depleted energy reserves, revitalizing the user and...

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Ok so hear me out. Shigaraki should get Immortality Type 2 and Possibly High-Mid Regeneration added to his current accepted Mid Regeneration

So unlike the other Nomus due to being a Perfected Nomu, Shigaraki despite heavily crippled and affected by spiritual damage, he can still live with like most of his body and all his vital/internal organs and brain destroyed. Hes completely hollowed out without even having guts, fluids, or bones. It also looks like his brain was cooked during the Stars and Stripes nuking as well



All For One also entirely blamed the inability to heal his body due to spiritual damage, implying that if the same damage was done in a physical/conventional sense, he would've been able to regenerate his body fine.

It's also stated twice that they needed to completely annihilate Shigaraki until nothing of him is left behind in order to permanently kill him.

(Side note, The Perfected Nomu Shigaraki can regenerate an entire new body from a decapitated head and now destroying his brain as shown above doesn't kill him off or prevent the use of quirks like with inferior imperfected nomu's)

In this scan, it says killing him requires one to vaporize him.


So high-mid regeneration makes sense to me.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Rather than self-Soul Manipulation, this is textbook Restoration.

Do you know which restoration it falls under?

I just went with self soul manipulation since Eri has the ability indexed as soul manipulation

 

[RomanOT]

Another aspect to consider when granting All For One the ability to manipulate souls is that Quirks are manifestations of the souls he steals.

At the end of the war, he acquired the ability to destroy them (erasing the Quirk in the process), as seen when he nearly destroyed Shiagaraki. This is quite remarkable, since, combined with his possession, he could destroy the soul of his host if they lack the necessary resistance.

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[RaikiKurohane99]

Do you know which restoration it falls under?

I just went with self soul manipulation since Eri has the ability indexed as soul manipulation

Based on this scan, I think it's Immaterial and Temporal restoration

Temporal Restoration: It involves the ability to manipulate time or revert objects to a previous state. Users can rewind the effects of damage, effectively restoring objects to their undamaged condition. Temporal restoration can be used to reverse the flow of time on localized areas or specific objects, reverting them to a pristine state.

Immaterial Restoration: It is the aspect of this ability that delves into the intangible aspects of existence, allowing users to mend emotional wounds, restore damaged relationships, and even rejuvenate weary souls.

 

[1000TonsofFun]

Another aspect to consider when granting All For One the ability to manipulate souls is that Quirks are manifestations of the souls he steals.

At the end of the war, he acquired the ability to destroy them (erasing the Quirk in the process), as seen when he nearly destroyed Shiagaraki. This is quite remarkable, since, combined with his possession, he could destroy the soul of his host if they lack the necessary resistance.

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I don’t think all quirks/vestiges count as souls, OFA only counts due to All Might’s vestige being wispy whilst he was still alive and appearing more solid as he got closer to death. But I’m not sure what the accepted status of vestiges as souls is so don’t quote me on that.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I don’t think all quirks/vestiges count as souls, OFA only counts due to All Might’s vestige being wispy whilst he was still alive and appearing more solid as he got closer to death. But I’m not sure what the accepted status of vestiges as souls is so don’t quote me on that.

vestiges, when it comes to all for one and deku iirc, are counted as 100% souls

 

[JoeDM021]

I don’t think all quirks/vestiges count as souls, OFA only counts due to All Might’s vestige being wispy whilst he was still alive and appearing more solid as he got closer to death. But I’m not sure what the accepted status of vestiges as souls is so don’t quote me on that.

they are called souls directly multiple times in the manga

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I don’t think all quirks/vestiges count as souls, OFA only counts due to All Might’s vestige being wispy whilst he was still alive and appearing more solid as he got closer to death. But I’m not sure what the accepted status of vestiges as souls is so don’t quote me on that.

I dont think anything new needs to be proposed since AFO already has being able to destroy souls indexed on his profile but here

 

[1000TonsofFun]

vestiges, when it comes to all for one and deku iirc, are counted as 100% souls

Oh no I get that AFO’s vestige as well as all the OFA vestiges would count (Shigaraki too, due to his possession of both AFO and (briefly) OFA). But in general, like the vestiges of the quirks he has taken (like Hawks) I don’t think would be qualified as souls.

I dont think anything new needs to be proposed since AFO already has being able to destroy souls indexed on his profile but here

I don’t know if these are vestiges. Could merely be their consciousnesses given that this is when they are affected by Deborah’s dream manipulation quirk.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I don’t know if these are vestiges. Could merely be their consciousnesses given that this is when they are affected by Deborah’s dream manipulation quirk.

The OFA vestiges materializes perfectly fine there

 

[1000TonsofFun]

The OFA vestiges materializes perfectly fine there

The vestiges also exist in his mindscape so that doesn’t really prove anything unfortunately.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

late proposal but are yall fine with Minor Electricity Generation for Deku, Just realized broskie doesnt have it

 

[RomanOT]

late proposal but are yall fine with Minor Electricity Generation for Deku, Just realized broskie doesnt have it

Although its energy appears as rays, it never demonstrated any electrical properties, nor is this ever mentioned.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Although its energy appears as rays, it never demonstrated any electrical properties, nor is this ever mentioned.

It's practically as useless as Goku's Minor Electricity Generation

• Minor Electricity Generation (As a Super Saiyan 2 and 3, released electric bolts around the body)

Basically an aura effect

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

It's practically as useless as Goku's Minor Electricity Generation

• Minor Electricity Generation (As a Super Saiyan 2 and 3, released electric bolts around the body)

Basically an aura effect

Well it did vaporize half of Overhaul's Katsukame Fusion body after he got punched in the face, remember?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Well it did vaporize half of Overhaul's Katsukame Fusion body after he got punched in the face, remember?

Scan pls

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Scan pls

It was in the anime and I'm like 99% certain that didn't happen in the manga, but I'll go get it anyways.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Right there.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Right there.

Holy shit

 

[RomanOT]

Scan pls

This refers to it, however it may well be just an added effect to the shock effect since it is also seen when it destroys the fortress of dark mith.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Right there.

Yeah sadly it is anime only unless it happened in one of the movies

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Bro I'm so confused whether or not the electricity is minor like SSJ2 and 3 or actually combat applicable

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bro I'm so confused whether or not the electricity is minor like SSJ2 and 3 or actually combat applicable

At that point its not an anime only effect because the movies are fully canon.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

At that point its not an anime only effect because the movies are fully canon.

Ok but is it combat applicable or it’s just the effects of the shockwaves

 

[Machmatej]

late proposal but are yall fine with Minor Electricity Generation for Deku, Just realized broskie doesnt have it

electricity isn't part of his powers, so it's either a secret quirk deku developed over time and has never been name dropped or referenced in the whole story, or its just a visual effect for the use of full cowling.

 

[Reiner04]

Seems fine

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Seems fine

Thanks! Is self soul manipulation fine for AFO or Restoration like @RaikiKurohane99 suggested

 

[Reiner04]

Rather than self-Soul Manipulation, this is restoration

Thanks! Is self soul manipulation fine for AFO or Restoration like @RaikiKurohane99 suggested

Just make sure that justification is clear to explain how ability works. Since that matters most.

 

[Mbpoops]

p sure i helped with this off site so naturally i agree

 

[MANOFGOD7]

late proposal but are yall fine with Minor Electricity Generation for Deku, Just realized broskie doesnt have it

Yeppppp we good.

Ah yes, reminds me of those days when I legit thought Deku had gotten electric powers and so he could start to shock his opponents. Was in heavy debates about this and got horribly stomped and laughed at

 

[Imaginym]

I was asked to comment here.
Having skimmed the OP, it tentatively seems reasonable & has general acceptance, so I'll tentatively approve it, though it may be noteworthy that my knowledge of MHA is a bit casual & imperfect.

For the sake of expediency & not prolonging a long thread with many pages to analyze, I'd personally say, if it's of any relevance, that if any Knowledgeable &/or Staff Members have issues with the Opening Post's contents (As that seems to be what has received the approval of Vietthai96, Reiner04 & presently, myself.), a follow-up thread be made to address the issues. (For example, the suggestion from Translation Helper member RaikiKurohane99 suggesting Self Soul Manipulation be Restoration instead, &/or TheRustyOne's concerns about the Regeneration level.)

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I was asked to comment here.
Having skimmed the OP, it tentatively seems reasonable & has general acceptance, so I'll tentatively approve it, though it may be noteworthy that my knowledge of MHA is a bit casual & imperfect.

For the sake of expediency & not prolonging a long thread with many pages to analyze, I'd personally say, if it's of any relevance, that if any Knowledgeable &/or Staff Members have issues with the Opening Post's contents (As that seems to be what has received the approval of Vietthai96, Reiner04 & presently, myself.), a follow-up thread be made to address the issues. (For example, the suggestion from Translation Helper member RaikiKurohane99 suggesting Self Soul Manipulation be Restoration instead, &/or TheRustyOne's concerns about the Regeneration level.)

Thanks for your input!

Did you prefer Self Soul Manipulation or Immaterial and Temporal restoration since the quirk is time rewind on a person? I think either one works.

 

[Imaginym]

Thanks for your input!

Did you prefer Self Soul Manipulation or Immaterial and Temporal restoration since the quirk is time rewind on a person? I think either one works.

Presently neutral. What are the current arguments & evidence regarding each?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Presently neutral. What are the current arguments & evidence regarding each?

I proposed Self Soul Manipulation since Eri's own profile already has it as soul manipulation and I based the self-part on Sukuna's own profile indexing soul healing as that.

Restoration comes from the definition of this

Temporal Restoration: It involves the ability to manipulate time or revert objects to a previous state. Users can rewind the effects of damage, effectively restoring objects to their undamaged condition. Temporal restoration can be used to reverse the flow of time on localized areas or specific objects, reverting them to a pristine state.

Immaterial Restoration: It is the aspect of this ability that delves into the intangible aspects of existence, allowing users to mend emotional wounds, restore damaged relationships, and even rejuvenate weary souls.

Since Eri's Quirk is just rewinding time on a person that also affects someone's soul

(Unless both works lol)

 

[Imaginym]

I proposed Self Soul Manipulation since Eri's own profile already has it as soul manipulation and I based the self-part on Sukuna's own profile indexing soul healing as that.

Restoration comes from the definition of this


Since Eri's Quirk is just rewinding time on a person that also affects someone's soul

(Unless both works lol)

Tentatively, it may be both? Maybe in a Limited capacity?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Tentatively, it may be both? Maybe in a Limited capacity?

So basically like

Passive Self-Soul Manipulation & Restoration (Temporal & Immaterial; While the Rewind Drug is activate, he is able to passively restore any damage done to his soul in a similar manner to how Eri rewound Deku's body alongside his soul to the state before he received spiritual damage)

 

[Inferno3054]

Read the entire thread. I think Shigaraki gets High-Mid Regen.

 

[Imaginym]

So basically like

Passive Self-Soul Manipulation & Restoration (Temporal & Immaterial; While the Rewind Drug is activate, he is able to passively restore any damage done to his soul in a similar manner to how Eri rewound Deku's body alongside his soul to the state before he received spiritual damage)

Tentatively seems reasonable, IMHO.
If it's uncertain or contentious, we could just accept what others have accepted & save this proposal for another thread. So I guess maybe give this proposal (Since it's distinct from the OP's content & may not've been considered by previous evaluations.) some time (24 hours or so to be considered?) at least if you don't wanna put it for another thread?