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Even if you equalize speed, Flash can still steal it and freeze the opponent. Not to mention Flash can amp his own speed anytime using Speed Force. So speed equalizing doesn't nerf the Flash as much, but it does make people like this kid below human fodder (who would get annihilated by any...
Well it's not. Speed equalization is not a bad thing but nerfing dozens of speedsters because of Flash alone is ridiculous to say the least. Banning Flash is an option if that helps
When the concept is nerfing an entire set of people, it should be modified. If Flash is too OP he should be banned, other characters shouldn't suffer because of him. Not all speedster are Flash.
I am not opposed to speed equalized entirely, but it's getting out of hand. If Flash is this much...
If speedsters are too OP fight then they shouldn't fight. Nerfing them to make slower characters fight on par is very much unfair. Flash has plenty of other abilities other than speed to make up, not all speedster are lucky as Flash.
As their title suggests, speedsters rely on their gimmick of speed for VS matches. Equalizing speed for them will be akin to banning ki for Goku or chakra for Naruto (taking away their entire arsenal and make them useless in fight). I recommend banning speed equal matches with speedsters as it's...
Sorry I disagree. The numbers are valid comparison and there's no proof that their speed ratio would be any different on another day. This isn't real life, we try to get as concrete numbers from fictional source as possible to avoid unecessary assumptions.
I remember Barry capping out at Mach 3.3 before using Tachyon device, so even Mach 20 for Pre-EoS2 might be an outlier. Is the Mach 20 calc from S1 or S2?
Mach 3.3 from Episode 16 of S2. After this Barry used Tachyon device to get 4x faster than Mach 3.3 in Ep 18 of S2 (mach 13.2). Then Zoom...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:LordXcano/CW_Flash_Speed_Feats
Either way did some calcs on a few of the speed feats listed here.
Until we get new numbers from the show, anything above Mach 20 is an outlier. We can't go against the author's words and supersede it with fan calc (not...
All of godzilla's tricks are useless against hulk. Hulk has resisted telepathy from far stronger telepaths. Hulk can simply ragdoll godzilla in this fight (given size disparity)
Bear more often than not. Crocs are crippled by certain weather conditions whereas bear can fight anytime when not hibernating. Also bear is more agile and it's claws can be used to blind the crocodile. A crocs jaw is powerful but it's primarily used for grabbing the opponent where bear use...
The highest confirmed speed in the show is Mach 13 (Zoom being 4x faster than Barry who was Mach 3.3). Anything above High Hypersonic would be outlier for the show
Hulk also has reactive evolution (he gets stronger with anger). So still stalemate. Hulk BFRd Fing Fang Foom to the Moon so Hulk would've won if BFR was an option. This match won't have any winner since neither has the hax to bypass each others regen.
Godzilla via atomic breath, as Goku has no counter against radiation. Also Goku can't overcome Godzilla regen. Easy victory for Godzilla
Note to OP: Please try to avoid creating speed equal matches with Goku, he severely lacks in hax compared to 90% characters in his tier. It will simply add up...
Well some users might have a problem with particular fanbase so they could be requested to avoid discussion threads if there's any friction. And yeah it's too lenient but Ant says we have some reputation so I tried to be as soft. But vandals shouldn't be tolerated
However Ant doesn't like this...
I got something
Profile vandalism
1st attempt: warning
2nd attempt: 1 week ban
3rd attempt: perma (those who gotta listen would've listened by second time)
Attempts are for each separate edit on profiles
Harassment, insult
1st accusation: request to avoid user/avoid thread
2nd...
Given how there are characters with infinite speed in JoJo, nlf might not apply here. NLF is generally reserved for characters where verse itself is limited by quantifiable speed. Jojo is beyond those limitation
Well since he can at least do 3-B damage physically because of size, then it's no harm to include his ability (which is what he can do, even if it's not applicable in combat). But his abilities are indeed useless in combat and unlike items such as Infinite Gaunltet in Marvel, the Super Dragon...
Unless he gets outside help to grant the wish in time (if possible), I dont even see how his 3-A rating can be useful in any battle here.
That's what I'm saying, he's completely useless in battle and his 3-A is only applicable if somebody else asks for wish. So At least 3-B is good enough...
Actually I would prefer if he stays 'At least 3-B', since Super Shenron can't use reality warping by himself and needs wish from another person. A 3-A character should be able to use his/her AP in combat by himself/herself, which Super Shenron can't in standard battle condition. Also he can only...
And, with that logic, then even Superhuman would be an outlier (It's not like the difference between Subsonic and Superhuman is that big tho)
Superhuman itself is a big stretch, but that's the highest I can see them go. And this one could very well be an outlier. Most Harry Potter...
Superhuman I can accept but subsonic? Nah. Harry Potter verse is as close to real world as it gets. A subsonic character has subsonic showings on average
The only way Super Shenron can be argued to be upgraded is by Beerus' statement where he assumed he could destroy the universe with the balls if he wished to. Super Shenon is not a combat character, his current stats come from his size (being multi-galactic)
Also you don't appear to be well...
We will ignore the strict verse mechanics in general, and occassionally go case by case basis. For pokemons case, it's definition of dragons is unique (dragons are just creatures in almost every other verse, not certain pokemon moves or types which have certain weakness or immunity). So we will...