Average MG Thread

[AlexSamDen]

Did I accuse you of bias? I am responding to your comment, which in turn responds to the person who asked why there were so many votes.

Stop seeing an attack attempt in a simple message.

The very notion of you resorting to an argument of openness indicates that you felt as if that aspect of fair evaluation of your thread was being challenged, as such, while you have not directly accused me of such, the structure of your message speaks for itself


We're starting a Civil War among messages with this one

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[Cipher72]

You're thinking of countless ≠ Infinite

I C no problems then

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

OP looks good to me.

 

[Mizuki67]

I was answering a comment about the speed of their coming, I said nothing about bias and the like
Stop seeing an attack in every action

Everything is an attack to you. Anyways agree with this

 

[ROZAN-U]

Put me in disagree just to balance things.

 

[Cipher72]

Put me in disagree just to balance things.

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[HeavenlyVillain2]

This should be close already

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

This should be close already

48 hours havent passed yet.

 

[Ferno1234]

"miniature copy of the world"

Standards for something bigger than 2-A to be Low 1-C

To elaborate, a structure larger than 2-A meets the requirements for dimensional superiority over them if it either explicitly mentions an uncountably infinite number of universes or has portrayals/statements of being larger than 2-A structures to the point that even infinite multipliers on top of the size of that structure are of no relevance to it.

Also, "miniature" from what i know, just refers to something ambiguously smaller than the thing it is a copy of

" endless, gigantic round bubble"

Endless is a relative term, anything who's end cannot be seen can be called "endless"

Not to mention that how do we know that it isn't merely metaphorical, considering it immediately continues with "gigantic" right after? Which itself is an ambiguous discriptor?

What even is "Low 1-C" here?

 

[Thermor]

Standards for something bigger than 2-A to be Low 1-C

To elaborate, a structure larger than 2-A meets the requirements for dimensional superiority over them if it either explicitly mentions an uncountably infinite number of universes or has portrayals/statements of being larger than 2-A structures to the point that even infinite multipliers on top of the size of that structure are of no relevance to it.

Also, "miniature" from what i know, just refers to something ambiguously smaller than the thing it is a copy of



Endless is a relative term, anything who's end cannot be seen can be called "endless"

Not to mention that how do we know that it isn't merely metaphorical, considering it immediately continues with "gigantic" right after? Which itself is an ambiguous discriptor?

What even is "Low 1-C" here?

This is already accepted in a previous thread as Dereck showed. You should just make a separate CRT if you want to tackle it.

 

[Ferno1234]

This is already accepted in a previous thread as Dereck showed. You should just make a separate CRT if you want to tackle it.

So your counter is.....mentioning a thread for the WN that was made in 2022? And an appeal to authority?

 

[SweetDao]

So your counter is.....mentioning a thread for the WN that was made in 2022? And an appeal to authority?

He isn't wrong. If you feel that it's wrong, make a new one since it isn't even the topic of the current thread as far as I'm aware. He isn't "countering" you; he's just explaining how to proceed, really.

 

[Shadow7001]

Easy agree

 

[Dereck03]

So your counter is.....mentioning a thread for the WN that was made in 2022? And an appeal to authority?

Well, not that I'm actually using the WN to argue with the LN but we are allowed to use both the WN together with the LN, it's a rule that was created years ago about LN and WN and MG is allowed, so yeah, the reasoning is the same as the one from 2022.

 

[Namlessking2]

Yes, the update will be complete in 5 hours.

 

[Tatsumi504]

Standards for something bigger than 2-A to be Low 1-C

To elaborate, a structure larger than 2-A meets the requirements for dimensional superiority over them if it either explicitly mentions an uncountably infinite number of universes or has portrayals/statements of being larger than 2-A structures to the point that even infinite multipliers on top of the size of that structure are of no relevance to it.

Also, "miniature" from what i know, just refers to something ambiguously smaller than the thing it is a copy of

It is still miniature compared to the rest of the world. "Miniature" is still an indication of a size difference that didn't come from "the world has multiple of these inside it so it is bigger". The original word used too was "microcosm" which means

a community, place, or situation regarded as encapsulating in miniature the characteristics of something much larger.

Endless is a relative term, anything who's end cannot be seen can be called "endless"

Not to mention that how do we know that it isn't merely metaphorical, considering it immediately continues with "gigantic" right after? Which itself is an ambiguous discriptor?

What even is "Low 1-C" here?

It isn't used as a relative term here neither is it used metaphorically. It is up to you to prove that it was used in that sense. The use of "gigantic" too doesn't gear the statement towards being a metaphor. It is simply far larger than they expected and this is from the view of characters that have visited and explored multiple locations of infinite size.

The contents within the world -the world as the inhabitants know it- is what is Low 1-C the vessel that contains it is infinite hence it's an infinite sized Low 1-C structure.

 

[Ferno1234]

It is still miniature compared to the rest of the world

I fail to see how this helps you, in the end it is still, an unambiguous difference in size

"Miniature" is still an indication of a size difference that didn't come from "the world has multiple of these inside it so it is bigger".

Sure And this helps you, how exactly?

The original word used too was "microcosm" which means

I don't remember seeing this specific term used in the scans presented for this specific crt for Low 1-C

It isn't used as a relative term here neither is it used metaphorically. It is up to you to prove that it was used in that sense.

Huh? "having or seeming to have no end or limit." How is it "my" burden to prove that it is a relative term, when that be seen from the definition itself? And your very reasoning for Low 1-C presumes as it being "literal"?

The use of "gigantic" too doesn't gear the statement towards being a metaphor. It is simply far larger than they expected

Yet, it still fails to provide any significant evidence for the size difference being significant enough to be Low 1-C, even if one ignores the specification of the word "gigantic" used

and explored multiple locations with infinite size.

So, Low 2-C? Unless I'm missing something, your current reasoning that you just presented is, that because these characters have explored multiple Low 2-C locations, and because this current structure is "endless"(supposedly) from their perspective, it's thus enough to establish it as having a dimensional difference in size?

 

[Ruler_Star_Kuma]

banner and messages yeah that looks peculiar..

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Well, not that I'm actually using the WN to argue with the LN but we are allowed to use both the WN together with the LN, it's a rule that was created years ago about LN and WN and MG is allowed, so yeah, the reasoning is the same as the one from 2022.

Little off topic but, could you link where this rule is? I'm not disagreeing with the thread or anything, I'm just actually curious since I know some verses I support that may be able to benefit from this

 

[Dereck03]

Little off topic but, could you link where this rule is? I'm not disagreeing with the thread or anything, I'm just actually curious since I know some verses I support that may be able to benefit from this

Here is the rule, here the thread where it was proposed and accepted.

Anyway, the changes has been applied, the cosmology page created, there's nothing left to do here, thanks everyone.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I fail to see how this helps you, in the end it is still, an unambiguous difference in size

Sure And this helps you, how exactly?

Refer to Ultima's statement on the thread linked in the OP. If a 2-A structure is contained and shown to be explicitly trivialized in size and the realm that trivializes it is infinite itself then it qualifies for Low 1-C.

I don't remember seeing this specific term used in the scans presented for this specific crt for Low 1-C

It's from the raws. OTL just decided to use "miniature" instead of microcosm.

Huh? "having or seeming to have no end or limit." How is it "my" burden to prove that it is a relative term, when that be seen from the definition itself? And your very reasoning for Low 1-C presumes as it being "literal"?

VSBW assumes "endless" as infinite by default unless there is context to suggest otherwise. So, it's the other way around.

So, Low 2-C?

Infinite divine domains are 2-A instead of Low 2-C. So, the characters are emphatically saying it's endless despite having experienced (and destroyed) 2-A realms before.