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"High power" translates to Haki.
Not saying he has "highest power" or anything, it's just saying he has haki
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Battle between the World's Strongest Right-Hand Men (One Piece)
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Not saying he has "highest power" or anything, it's just saying he has haki
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It was the of his part that was confusing
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Marco FRA also more experienced than King in battle
And i dont see that King have enough haki to negate Marco regen like Garp did
And i dont see that King have enough haki to negate Marco regen like Garp did
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Idk what this is based on, both were apart of their crews for around the same time. If anything King would have a slight advantage in experience since he was Kaidou's first member and was immediately made his right hand man.
Check the Haki page, initial is all that's listed to negate his regen, King has shown intermediate feats he negates his regen.
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I'm leaning towards King in this fight, slight stat advantage and can negate Marco's regen
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Honestly, while the AP advantage is slight, the dura advantage with King's flames on is quite large since Zoan King is literally tougher than Zoan Kaido.
If he removes the flames (which would make him far faster than Marco), his Zoan durability still scales above his Zoan AP, and keep in mind his Hybrid Zoan form was said to be capable of slicing Queen's throat, which is well above any damage Hybrid Marco did to Queen.
Also, Zoan King should be a decent bit faster than Marco considering his Base could tag Hybrid Marco and his Zoan form is confirmed to boost his speed.
If the flames come off then he's even faster.
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Problem with the title, isn't Zoro now the strongest right hand man ( among Marco ofc) for beating King?
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Was just in reference to their Captain's who hold/held the World's Strongest titles.
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With this logic King beats everyone in the verse
He threatened him. Threats ≠ scaling unless they have heavy backing.
His base tagged a Marco focused on Queen.
Then Marco's base tagged King... focused on Marco
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So you're voting for King?
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Not necessarily. If someone (like Zoro) forced him to lower the flames to maintain a speed advantaged or pushed him into using Omori Karyudon out of desperation like Zoro did then his durability would only scale above his AP by an unknown degree.
The issue is that I just don't think Marco can force him to lower the flames like Zoro did. King is already >= in speed with flames on due to his Zoan speed boost and Imperial spear, and he has the power advantage so he won't need to use Omori Karyudon.
Also, Marco doesn't have special abilities and/or dura neg that can beat King, compared to, say, Eustass Kid's Awakening Powers and the dura neg abilities of Luffy and Law.
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"Forced him to lower the flames"
Nobody forces him to lower his flames. It just happens.
With this logic Big Mom, Roger, Shanks, and Mihawk just dick him
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I mean, they kinda do still dick him down, but that's due to overall superiority in most categories
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I woke up in the morning and see this :
My morning is blessed.
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So, since @MonkeyOfLife hasn't officially voted yet, then with the vote of @Soma_King it is now tied (again) at 8-8.
At this point we should start considering putting this in incon, as @CiscoTheSoto suggested.
To quote vs threads rules on an incon match:
At this point we should start considering putting this in incon, as @CiscoTheSoto suggested.
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- If both sides have equivalent posts with constructive arguments, the thread shall be deemed inconclusive.
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I guess I'll vote for Marco for now because of his insane experience
Literally fought in 2 wars against the strongest people in the one piece world... I don't think king will be able to overcome that but
I just see an edge with Marco against king
Literally fought in 2 wars against the strongest people in the one piece world... I don't think king will be able to overcome that but
I just see an edge with Marco against king
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...Okay, so that's 9-8 for Marco.I guess I'll vote for Marco for now because of his insane experience
Literally fought in 2 wars against the strongest people in the one piece world... I don't think king will be able to overcome that but
Unless there's anyone else who can join this debate, I'm starting to think we should call this incon.
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Marco more experienced because Whitebeard still sailing when Kaido have colonized Wano and stay there. King has become Kaidou's right hand man because he is most experienced, loyal and strongest in Beast Pirates after Kaidou himself but this doesn't make him has same or more experienced than other right hand's man from other pirate groups. Marco has faced more God tiers and fought them more than King did
I mean Marco still regenerate after King slice him, right? And battle between Marco vs King and Queen still cant harm and damaged Marco like Garp did it. Hey, Onigashima Raid's war finished and Marco still stand, like, without any injuries because his regeneration. Not like he has been after Paramount War
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Bro who told yall these lies. We saw their backstory.
He's his right hand man because he's his first member and he respects his power + he respects him
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Oh yeah my bad. Sorry. But still Marco has more experienced than him, right?
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Experience shouldn't be a factor. We have no timeframes
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Grace already ended for inconclusive. The match has been added to both their profiles.
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