DaMonkeMan
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If I made an edit that says "Fire Manipulation" for this character's profile, that should be fine as it's pretty clear he makes a wall of fire with his sickles in the video.
However, if I then attempted to make an edit giving him Fear Manipulation for this, it'd be removed and I'd be told that it would require a CRT, as threatening someone who previously bragged about being immortal with a permanent death isn't really Fear Manipulation by it self.
Of course, this would affect this rule as well:
If someone is just threatening to find you and hurt you on another site because of something you did on that site, you shouldn't be able to report them HERE for it, as they did not do it here and nothing they said or did involved the site, though of course they should still be monitored here so that they don't try it here.
If they threaten you because you didn't agree with their CRT, didn't vote for the right character, etc., then that should be reported here, as they're blatantly manipulating someone into doing their bidding.
What I'm trying to say, is that you should generally just report someone on the site they harassed you on, rather than take it here and spread unnecessary drama, unless what they're doing is very egregious and related to destabilizing the wiki (as noted in the rule above the ones I mentioned), after all we've had a good amount of cases where these rules were brought up and the people who supposedly violated them got off scot free, because it's almost unanimously agreed their behavior off site really should not be punishable under most circumstances.
And last but not least:
You may correct me if I'm getting this wrong, but all the evidence of people violating that rule is just links to CRTs that are over half a decade old.
Unless someone can provide proof of this happening in more recent times, I believe this rule should be removed.
I might edit this later if I find more rules that should be edited/removed (or make a follow-up thread), but that's the gist of it for now.
First of all, this shouldn't apply to any and every edit/chance made to a page, as some edits can be very evident or blatant, for example:
- Before making sweeping or significant changes to characters or verse pages, please start a thread in our Content Revision forum first, so that the suggestions may be evaluated by our Staff and our community at large, to ensure that they are acceptable. The concluding evaluations must be handled by Thread Moderators, Administrators, or Bureaucrats, who should make an effort to base their evaluations on valid arguments, not personal opinions.
If I made an edit that says "Fire Manipulation" for this character's profile, that should be fine as it's pretty clear he makes a wall of fire with his sickles in the video.
However, if I then attempted to make an edit giving him Fear Manipulation for this, it'd be removed and I'd be told that it would require a CRT, as threatening someone who previously bragged about being immortal with a permanent death isn't really Fear Manipulation by it self.
Of course, this would affect this rule as well:
When applying content revisions to our wiki pages, it is required that you always provide links to the discussion threads in the external forum wherein they were accepted by the wiki staff within the edit summary boxes. It greatly helps to avoid misunderstandings when the staff are patrolling edits, as they might mistake the changes for vandalism otherwise.
This is fine and what I'm about to say may just count as nitpicking, but I'm pretty sure this shouldn't be in the "Offsite Rules" section, because even though it focuses on someone posting a link to a malicious site, it's still posted/seen within the bounds of the wiki/forum.Do not link to or promote anything illegal within the Wiki. Linking to scams of any sorts is obviously strongly forbidden and will lead to an immediate ban.
This probably shouldn't be in the Offsite Rules section either (or even in the rules at all), and I'll tell you why:
- Threatening someone off-site, be it a threat of violence, hacking, doxxing, sexual harassment, etc.
- Harassment of users in their immediate surroundings (ex. Someone constantly messaging you with insulting comments via DMs or PMs)
If someone is just threatening to find you and hurt you on another site because of something you did on that site, you shouldn't be able to report them HERE for it, as they did not do it here and nothing they said or did involved the site, though of course they should still be monitored here so that they don't try it here.
If they threaten you because you didn't agree with their CRT, didn't vote for the right character, etc., then that should be reported here, as they're blatantly manipulating someone into doing their bidding.
What I'm trying to say, is that you should generally just report someone on the site they harassed you on, rather than take it here and spread unnecessary drama, unless what they're doing is very egregious and related to destabilizing the wiki (as noted in the rule above the ones I mentioned), after all we've had a good amount of cases where these rules were brought up and the people who supposedly violated them got off scot free, because it's almost unanimously agreed their behavior off site really should not be punishable under most circumstances.
And last but not least:
I'm not sure why this is even still a Discussion Rule.
You may correct me if I'm getting this wrong, but all the evidence of people violating that rule is just links to CRTs that are over half a decade old.
Unless someone can provide proof of this happening in more recent times, I believe this rule should be removed.
I might edit this later if I find more rules that should be edited/removed (or make a follow-up thread), but that's the gist of it for now.