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Is he deadass serious posting this shit?
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High-Universal Black Clover
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From a dude with limited showings of Sensing, magna sensorial ability is never used in anyway after even when it could be useful
They have no knowledge of the place outside that its big, what would luck statement even prove?
Yeet 2 dudes into a unknown flat open desert, it will look endless especially If as far as you can see even with a binoculars its just sand
Him not being able to sense or see a border does not mean it does not exist its just a limitation in his sensorial skills now again, show luck or magna having sensorial feats that go over a significant distance or it is just flowery language.
There is no room for just "what ifs?" Get the scans that would prove them be able to judge a infinite space size
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You can go to the Sahara desert and land right in the middle of the desert, You will walk for 12 Hours and you will say that the Sahara Desert is Endless with no Knowledge whatsoever about the Sahara desert at all.
To believe the words of someone who had just been to a place for which he himself had no knowledge of the place was the most stupid thing.
To believe the words of someone who had just been to a place for which he himself had no knowledge of the place was the most stupid thing.
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Exactly and even her phrase of "the impossible becomes possible" is contradicted once flaws in her Magic starts to show
She can't even keep up her attacks and used flowery language to hype it up, alongside limitations in her technique
Its nothing more than hiperbole to look stronger
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I never said that Magna sensed anything. I'll walk you through this step by step.From a dude with limited showings of Sensing, magna sensorial ability is never used in anyway after even when it could be useful
They have no knowledge of the place outside that its big, what would luck statement even prove?
Yeet 2 dudes into a unknown flat open desert, it will look endless especially If as far as you can see even with a binoculars its just sand
Him not being able to sense or see a border does not mean it does not exist its just a limitation in his sensorial skills now again, show luck or magna having sensorial feats that go over a significant distance or it is just flowery language.
There is no room for just "what ifs?" Get the scans that would prove them be able to judge a infinite space size
Endless has multiple definitions. Even in it's primary definition it can mean "Having no end" which is infinite. Or "Seeming to have no end" Which can mean very large or something large enough that you can't see it's end. Context decides which meaning is used.
Luck says the Glamour World has no border. And say's its endless. The part of the statement "No border" would already be an implication of the "infinite" definition of endless. But the context of the actual conversation further proves it.
Magna says : "Luck you moron, that's not even possible."
Pause.
What is causing Manga to call it impossible? If it is the "seemingly no end" definition of endless, why is that impossible? Well, it's not. Seemingly endless spells have already been created in Black Clover and witnessed by both Luck and Magna. Like when the Clover Kingdom was covered by Patry's spell, and then Julius spell. Well then by proxy it means that Magna thought that Luck was referring to the Endless definition that means infinite.
Now people are getting too stuck up on Luck's statement. Even if Luck is possibly intending the "seeming to have no end" Definition. The fact of the matter is that Magna thought that Luck meant the "no end" or "infinite" definition of endless. And Reve responded to Magna's claim that it was not possible.
"Here in glamour world. The impossible is possible. It's all the way I want it to be."
Reve is affirming the definition that Magna gathered from Luck. So whether or not which "endless" Luck meant, it doesn't even matter.
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I've already debunked these analogies. Disanalogous to the discussion lol.
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This is legitely Subjective reality what's your point?Exactly and even her phrase of "the impossible becomes possible" is contradicted once flaws in her Magic starts to show
She can't even keep up her attacks and used flowery language to hype it up, alongside limitations in her technique
Its nothing more than hiperbole to look stronger
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I'm not going to read 4 Page , Debunk it again.
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How? You never showed a single Scan of magna or luck being reliable sources for a structure of this size
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How is it contradicted? The impossible becoming possible. Doesn't mean impossible IS reality. It just makes it possible.Exactly and even her phrase of "the impossible becomes possible" is contradicted once flaws in her Magic starts to show
She can't even keep up her attacks and used flowery language to hype it up, alongside limitations in her technique
Its nothing more than hiperbole to look stronger
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Just because she says that its infinite≠it being infinite because even while putting in effort she was unable to create a infinite attack
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Literally just scroll up a couple. It's on this page.
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I've already shown how I don't even need to prove Luck sensing a structure of this size. You keep asking about Magna being a reliable source is not even on point for the topic.
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I found nothing.
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Then you didn't even scroll.
Romeu08 used essentially the same argument.
Here is the refutation:
I never said that Magna sensed anything. I'll walk you through this step by step.
Endless has multiple definitions. Even in it's primary definition it can mean "Having no end" which is infinite. Or "Seeming to have no end" Which can mean very large or something large enough that you can't see it's end. Context decides which meaning is used.
Luck says the Glamour World has no border. And say's its endless. The part of the statement "No border" would already be an implication of the "infinite" definition of endless. But the context of the actual conversation further proves it.
Magna says : "Luck you moron, that's not even possible."
Pause.
What is causing Manga to call it impossible? If it is the "seemingly no end" definition of endless, why is that impossible? Well, it's not. Seemingly endless spells have already been created in Black Clover and witnessed by both Luck and Magna. Like when the Clover Kingdom was covered by Patry's spell, and then Julius spell. Well then by proxy it means that Magna thought that Luck was referring to the Endless definition that means infinite.
Now people are getting too stuck up on Luck's statement. Even if Luck is possibly intending the "seeming to have no end" Definition. The fact of the matter is that Magna thought that Luck meant the "no end" or "infinite" definition of endless. And Reve responded to Magna's claim that it was not possible.
"Here in glamour world. The impossible is possible. It's all the way I want it to be."
Reve is affirming the definition that Magna gathered from Luck. So whether or not which "endless" Luck meant, it doesn't even matter.
So this isn't just walking through a desert and calling it endless. It's walking through a desert, you call it endless, the person with you says that's impossible, and the creator of the desert says it is possible. Which implies the "infinite" definition of endless.
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This was refuted tho
Magna was surprised by the size and luck called him a idiot for believing that
Dorothy said that the impossible is possible aluding to her ability to do the "impossible" and that is contradicted several times in a few panels, hell even her "infinite" attack was not infinite but just a spam of a finite attack that she was putting in effort
There is no reason to believe she could make the structure infinite when ever her best attempts at spam is finite
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Its not the definition that matters, but the showings
There are too many contradictions and anti feats alongside lack of good enough scans and feats
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No. Just, no. Dorothy said the impossible was possible, directly responding to Magna and Luck's conversation.
There is no contradiction. The impossible being possible isn't contradicted. She can make the impossible possible in her glamour world. But that doesn't mean ALL IMPOSSIBILITIES are ACTUALLY THERE. Possible = able to be done; within the power or capacity of someone or something. It just means the possible CAN be done.
The attack was destroyed by them. That isn't any sort of evidence that goes against Glamour World being infinite. Her goal was to create an infinite never-ending attack because her opponents couldn't die because they were protected by Rogue, the red thread of fate that prevented the death of allies. AND Charmy could restore mana supplies so that Rogue could be spammed. Her goal was to simply make a never-endign attack that outlasted their efforts. The fact that it wasn't neverending because it was destroyed is meaningless.
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There are no contradictions towards anti-feats.
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Reve not Saying : Yes it Does have infinte size.
But she Saying : Here in glamour world. The impossible is possible. It's all the way I want it to be and the scan is refering to her ability to warp/transmutate the objects, not directly to Luck word.
Also Dorothy said the Same things.
Anyway were is your Galaxy bro?
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So even using all of her efforts she can't make a attack infinite or close to It?
This is a antifeat toward she having infinite creation
If it was infinite the destroyed section would have be overrun by the next "flow" of it but her attack got completely destroyed in its finite tracks
So its either she can atmost make a finite
expansive world or she just has a finite world
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This is going nowhere at all
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I think Its coming to a close now that i'm here
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That's a hilarious interpretation lmfao. She used the specific language of "impossible" in direct response to Luck and Magna's "not possible" use. She's responding to them. Her doing that is an extension of what she she can do lol.
The galaxy is in the scan provided of the post. This wiki uses Anime to convey things that aren't clear or hard to see on the page of a manga. I've seen many cases of this being acceptable. It's just supporting evidence.
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Yes, but he did not even move one inch, and yet he could sense that. Give anti-feat that he can't sense that far. Thanks
Note: Don't tell me about the weakened version of him, since that's irrelevant.
Again, why did he say “endless”? No borders' statement was enough to be impressed.
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Uh. Not it isn't? She isn't creating an infinite-sized thing with that attack. The point of the "infinite" is to be never-ending. Do you not even read my posts?
So no, it is not an anti-feat.
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You're so close to understanding now, she can't create endless attacks
At her best her creations are finite
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Not even close
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The attacks were destroyed. Those things she created being finite in size have nothing to do with her Glamour World being infinite. Unless if you're going to argue that if any other character who scales to creation feats, but then creates finite objects in their realms are also debunked as scaling to their creation? Lol.
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You're not getting it, at her best creation output the attack was finite, it contradicts her saying that the impossible is possible and it changes the context from the place size to just her transmutations
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Literally nothing is contradicted. Possibilty doesn't mean reality.
You're not getting it.
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The fact that this thread is still going after 6 pages shows how dangerous delusions and wanking is
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High Uni BC ?
No.
No.
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im fine with this getting the environmental destruction classification
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Where's the disconnect between environmental and pure High 3-A? It just sounds bs. Either disagree or agree. Or the rating will be even more inaccurate than the hypothetical situations of if we did add it fully or not at all. (Not targeting you personally btw, I just find the argument bewildering.)
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WrongIdea21
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Y'all the one who Made de claim they can sense infinite Distance. Y'all give us the proof
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I'll reply later i have some works
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Just drop here to say, while claiming endless =/= infinite is kinda stupid, both of them still need supporting contexts for their definition anyway, because even "infinite" can be hypebole and metaphor, let alone "endless"
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I think the logic comes from the fact he doesn't just say endless. He says without borders.
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