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What 5D soul are you talking aboutAnd his hax have no "5D" feats.
Hell, there's literaly 0 "5D" souls in the verse but since Arceus has big AP his hax suddenly become able to affect them?
You said all his hax should be 5D. It includes soul manip.What 5D soul are you talking about
Cool. So you're saying Arceus hax won't work on the 5D constructs that's the Inner working of his being
He created a 4D realm. New flash flash.... He transcends that realm and exists in a 5D ONEYou said all his hax should be 5D. It includes soul manip.
He is literaly the 5D one + don't really care abt your sarcasm.
If his time manip is 5D, then why Dialga, the literal time he used to shape reality, isn't 5D?
Are you kidding me? This dances around so much stuff it borders on an argument in bad faithIf his time manip is 5D, then why Dialga, the literal time he used to shape reality, isn't 5D?
Why can't he just exist in the void/chaos?He created a 4D realm. New flash flash.... He transcends that realm and exists in a 5D ONE
I'm using your own arguments. You say all of his hax are 5D, but when someone point out the lack of feats you don't have any arguments in favor of the double standard you want to install.Are you kidding me?
BECAUSE THERE ARE SCANS WHERE ARCEUS TALKS ABOUT HIS REALM. WHICH WERE IN THE DAMN CRT.Why can't he just exist in the void/chaos?
He doesn't exist in a 5D construct. He is the 5D construct. Unless somehow he cannot affect the 5D construct with his powersPutting aside what Yuri said, why does existing in 5-D mean having 5-D hax? You can exist in 5-D and have all 0-D abilities normally, as hax potency is based on what it has been shown to affect, that's all
By your logic all characters that exist in space time have 4-D abilities
No, I think they're saying his hax aren't as potent as his AP. Their ability to work in a 5D realm is independent from their potency.You are arguing that Arceus’ hax don’t work in his own 5D construct. Come on.
What are you talking about.Why can't he just exist in the void/chaos?
With PLA, it's made clear he exists beyond the boundary of the Pokémon reality, space and time completely.After all we know reality was only created using the CT. Nowhere in lore does it say something was created without this process.
What you described is just 5-D omnipresence, just I already said above HDE and Omnipresence are the only 5-D things that he has.He doesn't exist in a 5D construct. He is the 5D construct. Unless somehow he cannot affect the 5D construct with his powers
Which would be false as it was made very clear a billion times he has full control over the reality
Dumb asf to believe he cannot interact with his 5D realm
I'm not saying anything.Cool. You're saying Arceus cannot use his hax to affect his realm because somehow his 5D realm transcends his power
I think they're saying
And you lack arguments to make one.You’re now making up head canon that contradicts actual canon to make a point
That's AP, not hax. Unrelated.Cool. You're saying Arceus cannot use his hax to affect his realm because somehow his 5D realm transcends his power
He created his 5D realm. PLA made mention a billion times he has full control over all realities, INCLUDING that 5D realmWhat you described is just 5-D omnipresence, just I already said above HDE and Omnipresence are the only 5-D things that he has.
R/F diff isn't what has been accepted in the upgrade.He created his 5D realm. PLA made mention a billion times he has full control over all realities, INCLUDING that 5D realm
He transcends the reality, transcends 4D,transcends the plates, the plates is what is the origin of all the Pokémon powers.
R-F difference and HDE
Never said that he doesn't transcend space time or doesn't create them, not sure what is your point here. I'm trying to tell you that if all of his hax are 5-D then every single of them must have feat of affecting 5-D things, which is not the case here since virtually all stuffs on Arceus profile have only shown to affect 3-D or 4-D beings only, and I highly doubt he has offensive 5-D hax considering he is the only 5-D character to be scaled.He created his 5D realm. PLA made mention a billion times he has full control over all realities, INCLUDING that 5D realm
He transcends the reality, transcends 4D,transcends the plates, the plates is what is the origin of all the Pokémon powers.
R-F difference and HDE
so your response to being called out for making up head canon and contradicting the lore is saying that at least you made a point? Even when people have made good arguments for both sidesAnd you lack arguments to make one.
Nah, I'm just saying you call it headcanon without developping how and that it is your only argument to favor the double standard.so your response to being called out for making up head canon and contradicting the lore is saying that at least you made a point? Even when people have made good arguments for both sides
His powers have been shown to affect only 3D/4D? Lol. Those are Avatars for interacting with the 4D multiverse he doesn't exist in. 4D plates which is the origin of ALL Pokémon powers besides him.Never said that he doesn't transcend space time or doesn't create them, not sure what is your point here. I'm trying to tell you that if all of his hax are 5-D then every single of them must have feat of affecting 5-D things, which is not the case here since virtually all stuffs on Arceus profile have only shown to affect 3-D or 4-D beings only, and I highly doubt he has offensive 5-D hax considering he is the only 5-D character to be scaled.
Show him affecting 5D. If you can't, then he just has 4D.His powers have been shown to affect only 3D/4D? Lol. Those are Avatars for interacting with the 4D multiverse he doesn't exist in. 4D plates which is the origin of ALL Pokémon powers besides him.
EVERY arguement you try to make against Arceus, is basically putting him on the same level as his plates, which have been proven to be very irrelevant to his True Form.
I feel like you all are missing this post. This, honestly, seems like undeniable proof. The plates, the source of every power and ability in Pokemon, are a part of Arceus, a 5D entity, and by extension, 5D in nature.I mean if Arceus is 5D, the plates should scales from him because they are part of him.
There are scans in the CRT that directly contradict the idea that Arceus in his true form does not exist in a designated realmI'm just saying you call it headcanon without developping how
Which I just said to be chaos by putting two and two together. How is that headcanon ?There are scans in the CRT that directly contradict the idea that Arceus in his true form does not exist in a designated realm
He created and embodies a 5D construct, of which he has authority/control/Power over. He can do whatever the heck he wants in it. Heck, in PLA he calls you there several times to play fight with his Arceus. Its his home FFS.Show him affecting 5D. If you can't, then he just has 4D.
That's all there is to it.
Listen, that's not what he is saying, he wants to say that Arceus HAX has not been shown to affect 5-D reality at all, no one here cares if Arceus embodies the 5-D reality itself or not because it's not HAX so don't keep repeating the same argument.He created and embodies a 5D construct, of which he has authority/control/Power over. He can do whatever the heck he wants in it. Heck, in PLA he calls you there several times to play fight with his Arceus. Its his home FFS.
You're implying anything beyond Creating/Affecting his realm is impossible. Why? Because you're fully intending to scale him to plates he's been proven to be far beyond.
That's what you're doing.
Listen, that's not what he is saying, he wants to say that Arceus HAX has not been shown to affect 5-D reality at all, no one here cares if Arceus embodies the 5-D reality itself or not because it's not HAX so don't keep repeating the same argument.
You do realize they won't just do that right?Guys, just make the Plates Low 1-C, then anything good
It's hax are layered/conceptualtbh if he somehow does get his hax upgraded to tier 1, it would be baseline at best, and pretty sure that wouldn't even be enough for reaching the average of Low1c characters
You have "the" and "they" backwardsWhy would the. They plates are 2A
Surely.
I don't want it.tbh if he somehow does get his hax upgraded to tier 1, it would be baseline at best, and pretty sure that wouldn't even be enough for reaching the average of Low1c characters