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Isaac Netero vs Garou [11-10-0]

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This is Prime Netero and Hero Hunter Garou being used for this fight with Netero starting with his Bodhisattva already out and Garou starts at High 7-C+ but can evolve into his High 7-C+ Half-Monster Key if need be. Speed is not equalized.

Netero : 11

Garou : 10

Incon :
 
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Does it matter either way? It doesn't show a feat other than making someone feel fear, which isn't enough for a wincon(as long as the person is capable of fighting while feeling fear). At the very least, the scene they put there doesn't imply that kind of fear manipulation. Or it does more but isn't shown there?
 
It briefly paralyzed Meruem in total fear before he snapped out of it enough to try and dodge a nuclear blast despite how useless the attempt was. Although I do think it's interesting that the explosion of the Rose Bomb is fast enough to blitz Meruem outright considering how insanely fast he is. Point is, at best I can see Garou being extremely startled if he brings Netero down to death's door and triggers his amped up Ren Crush.
 
I want to say Garou wins? I think Garou is gonna struggle getting past the Bodhisattva at first, but as he adapts, especially once he evolves to half-monster, he should be able to get past it, at which point Netero is going to get absolutely crushed by superior everything.

Rose Bomb would probably be bad for Garou, but why would it be used? Garou doesn’t kill his opponents and Netero killed himself against Meruem due to him being an active threat to all of humanity due to leading a species that’s actively destroying nations and eating people en masse.
 
Netero has 8-A to Low 7-C durability. What prevents him from being one-shot?

That would put him at 2.79 kilotons while Garou is at 600 kilotons.
 
Garou has attack reflection + AD, his analytical prediction could give him a vague idea of Bodhisattva by watching Netero's hand movements, his adaptation would also allow him to sharpen his senses to help deal with Bodhisattva

Netero starts with higher AP, invisible Bodhisattva and thats really it

Garou should be fine, the only caviat is that he can't tank nearly as much as meruem but he can def manage here

Garou FRA
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Meruem, who is High 7-C and has such good analytical prediction that could find the right move in an infinite probability scenario, could barely touch Netero twice
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Every scenario in combat is an "infinite probability scenario." There are infinite things that can happen at any given moment. That's not really anything special, to be honest with you.
 
Tbh there's not much to argue, I will just leave the scene. It's said that his Buddha mecha got infinite variations of moves and it's almost impossible to predict


The scans are few but the fight is meant to be long (the first part), it lasted some chapters, but most was offscreen

Netero can then use his mecha Buddha with 100 arms

But deadass I disagree with High 7-C Netero, it took ten of hundreds of attacks to make Meruem start to feel pain
 
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Real "nen crush" only starts with Royal Family and above (No one). Netero also lacks enough malice to create fear worst than death
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Tbh there's not much to argue, I will just leave the scene. It's said that his Buddha mecha got infinite variations of moves and it's almost impossible to predict


The scans are few but the fight is meant to be long (the first part), it lasted some chapters, but most was offscreen

Netero can then use his mecha Buddha with 100 arms

But deadass I disagree with High 7-C Netero, it took ten of hundreds of attacks to make Meruem start to feel pain
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I think this is an impressive martial arts knowledge feat for Netero, given he knows of a seemingly limitless amount of ways to defend himself, but I do not think this actually means very much for Mereum's analytical prediction. All forms of prediction involve decreasing a practically infinite amount of possibilities into a singular one which you act on. It even says in that scan that what Mereum was doing was trying to identify a subconscious bias in Netero's movements which would give him a lead on predicting his next move.

I see no reason that Garou would not be capable of the same thing.

I don't see how Netero is supposed to win here if he also lacks durability negation options. Y'all all know how Garou works. And especiallly with the OP allowing him to jump into his monster form... unless Netero puts him down instantly, he's toast.

All Garou needs his one hit regardless as well. 600x difference in AP vs Durability.
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Guys, Netero literally just prays mid fight and summons a mecha. How the hell is Garou predicting with Netero's hand movement
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Actually, Netero occasionally moves his hands to direct its movements so garou shouldn't have much trouble at all

Also, I'd like to add that Garou is able to work with hand movements that have little to no resemblance to the attack in question. Golden Bullet simply making the hand gesture to shoot at him is enough for Garou to dodge ricochet shots that straight up blitz his perception, even if Netero was just standing there, that would still give Garou a decent bit to work with.
 
Delusionaltx2 said:
Actually, Netero occasionally moves his hands to direct its movements so garou shouldn't have much trouble at all
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Netero controls 100 arms at same time, each more than 20 meters long, which are also invisible for Garou, and this with his HEART, his hands are just a habit. Garou aint predicting shit with the most basic analytical prediction of all time (Can see 12 possible variations of moves and guess wrong since the enemy was King)

I could argue more but I don't want to put my mind into it right now
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Netero controls 100 arms at same time, each more than 20 meters long, which are also invisible for Garou, and this with his HEART, his hands are just a habit. Garou aint predicting shit with the most basic analytical prediction of all time (Can see 12 possible variations of moves and guess wrong since the enemy was King)
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Mereum's Analytical Prediction works the exact same. If anything, Mereum's is actually even worse because he can only begin to predict things via first getting a grasp of some form of subconscious bias. Also it isn't literally "12 variations," its just the art representing his thought process.

Also... Netero can't actually win the fight here. Garou will just adapt and eventually one-shot him even in the best case scenario.
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Netero controls 100 arms at same time, each more than 20 meters long, which are also invisible for Garou,
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invisible attacks are not an issue, golden bullets attacks were so fast garou himself couldn't see them which is why he used his hand gestures in the first place
LIFE_OF_KING said:
and this with his HEART, his hands are just a habit.
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Actually, he does this multiple times within the fight and it's never stated to just be a habbit either
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Garou aint predicting shit with the most basic analytical prediction of all time (Can see 12 possible variations of moves and guess wrong since the enemy was King)

I could argue more but I don't want to put my mind into it right now
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Analytical prediction that allows you to predict FTE, allows you to predict several possible movements through line of sight, posture, and center of gravity and allows you to dodge simply based on knowing how the attack works without even needing to see the attack is not at all what I'd consider "basic"
 
Phoenks said:
Mereum's Analytical Prediction works the exact same. If anything, Mereum's is actually even worse because he can only begin to predict things via first getting a grasp of some form of subconscious bias. Also it isn't literally "12 variations," its just the art representing his thought process.

Also... Netero can't actually win the fight here. Garou will just adapt and eventually one-shot him even in the best case scenario.
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yeah like real talk

netero has nothing that would be able to incapacitate Garou before he just adapts and wins,his best bet is hitting him with something garou would eventually just get a grip on and thats that.

hell, I'd argue Garou could even grab some of the hands like how Meruem did, since Meruem could do that with class M LS while garou has class G
from there, he'd know whatever is hitting him is at least humanoid and work from there
 
Phoenks said:
Mereum's Analytical Prediction works the exact same. I
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1- Meruem took several chapters to hit Netero ONCE. He was insanly superior to Netero to the point that hundred of attacks caused 0 damage to Meruem. His mind was barely bothered

2- Meruem, different from Garou, does have a feat to counter (overtime) 100 arms, each 20 meters long, attacking him at same time, something that Garou does NOT HAVE. Garou best analytical feat in this key is seeing 12 possible moves that the enemy will do. That's it, it's nowhere close at all to anything that Meruem did. It's prolly one of the worst analytical feats since he can't even guess the right move, he just assume a bunch and try to counter with that in mind.

Hell, trying hit Netero is just as hard as trying to find the right hole of the right nail from a pile across a desert. And the worst, Garou CAN'T SEE THE MEGAZORDE BUDDHA BEHIND NETERO DIFFERENT OF MERUEM, BECAUSE IT'S INVISIBLE
Phoenks said:
Garou will just adapt and eventually one-shot him even in the best case scscenario.
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Adapt after death, maybe
 
Delusionaltx2 said:
Actually, he does this multiple times within the fight and it's never stated to just be a habbit either
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Ah yes, garou will guess what the **** is the move of Netero doing two 👌
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Or guess wtf is he doing while making a heart
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Again, his hands are irrelevant. He literally stated that he only need his heart, nothing else
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
1- Meruem took several chapters to hit Netero ONCE. He was insanly superior to Netero to the point that hundred of attacks caused 0 damage to Meruem. His mind was barely bothered
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Garou makes up for this by having attack reflection and AD
LIFE_OF_KING said:
2- Meruem, different from Garou, does have a feat to counter (overtime) 100 arms, each 20 meters long, attacking him at same time, something that Garou does NOT HAVE. Garou best analytical feat in this key is seeing 12 possible moves that the enemy will do. That's it, it's nowhere close at all to anything that Meruem did.
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Garou did that instantly while Meruems feat took a lot of time, if you give garou a simmilar amount of time then he'd definitely be able to do the same thing
LIFE_OF_KING said:
It's prolly one of the worst analytical feats since he can't even guess the right move, he just assume a bunch and try to counter with that in mind.
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The only reason he couldn't guess was because king didn't even attack him, SAITAMA did and he didn't even realize he was there because he was too focused on him.

Not only that but saitama is WAY faster than human garou so he had no chance of reacting
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Hell, trying hit Netero is just as hard as trying to find the right hole of the right nail from a pile across a desert. And the worst, Garou CAN'T SEE THE MEGAZORDE BUDDHA BEHIND NETERO DIFFERENT OF MERUEM, BECAUSE IT'S INVISIBLE
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, again he's dealt with invisible stuff before, this is a minor inconvenience
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Ah yes, garou will guess what the **** is the move of Netero doing two 👌
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Or guess wtf is he doing while making a heart
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he'll get hit by this once and understand at least the type of attack netero is trying to pull and then formulate ways to avoid it using enhanced senses, analytical prediction, and AD

It would be like a boss character lifting his hands up, and an invisible attack from the left shows up. Yeah, you won't know it at first, but you'll know next time he does this, an invisible attack from your left will show up. It's not that outlandish to say, since Garou has the time

If neteros attacks were capable of killing him quickly, then that would be different, but they can't, so he'd adapt and eventually win
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Again, his hands are irrelevant. He literally stated that he only need his heart, nothing else
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This doesn't change the fact that in character, he still uses his hands to control its movements
 
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