yee, snakeman's power was already overwhelming him
Adding/using adv arm haki or adv con haki would do insane amounts of damage to kizaru
It wasn't adv con haki tho, was just a normal armament haki clash, sparking only when hit
From the sound effects also, it might've even cracked his bone a little
Nah you're heavily exaggerating. Snakeman was not overpowering kizaru at all, they were exchanging blows with kizaru having the edge.
And luffy did not crack kizaru's bones at all. That is the farthest reach I've seen all week.
As for ACOC, that hit definitely looks like conquerors. If it were armament haki, the sparks would be flying all over and would not originate from luffy's attack only. Here, the lighting is trailing from luffy's leg only, and it looks identical to this kick which is demonstrably conquerors. This is all characteristic of conquerors haki.
except... Luffy was arguably using ACoC with snakeman anyway??
The whole argument here is that luffy was probably using conquerors haki against kizaru the whole time so kizaru's level is way up there, but I beg to differ completely.
All the way from the introduction of ACOC in chapter 1010 up to the most recent chapter with roger and garps clash, ACOC has been portrayed nearly consistently. Conquerors
coated attacks always have lightning trails from the point of contact and a black lightning explosion happens when the attack hits. Sometimes the attack doesn't make direct contact if the user has ACOA. There are so many instances of this that it would be redundant to list them all. But, here is a direct comparison of luffy's snakeman against kaido vs
against kizaru.
Against kaido, all of snakeman's punches are emitting conquerors sparks, and when they hit, black lightning sparks out while also not making contact. Against kizaru, none of this happens, there's not even the sound effects of thunder crackling.
And it's not even an issue of Luffy being serious or not anymore, there is evidence that luffy wasn't going all out in the first place. When luffy grabbed kizaru the first time, he didn't hurt kizaru. But when luffy was angry and serious,
he CRUSHED kizaru in his hand. I don't know why Luffy found it okay to play around against kizaru at first, but him not using conquerors is just the facts. The indicators for ACOC being used or not are consistent before and after egghead. For example here is g5 luffy NOT using ACOC against kaido and still harming him, it looks identical to the kizaru fight.
And it isn't even like it was inconsistent for this fight specifically, the only time we see
clear signs of ACOC use is also the first time luffy lands a proper attack and it's the same attack that ENDS the fight.
Now I definitely believe the fight is close because despite luffy being physically on par or stronger than kizaru when using ACOC + G2+G3 or snakeman or boundman, kizaru is still faster than him. However if luffy goes all out in g5, he'll definitely pummel kizaru. Remember kizaru folded to one attack from g5 arguably without ACOA, but luffy fought evenly and beat kaido who could take hundreds of those attacks consistently. Stamina isn't a big a factor as you think, only if luffy fights like he did on the rooftop.
