Misc Digimon Revisions V

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Another one so soon you ask? Well this one is kinda important. It will be a little more serious than the others....Maybe...Anyway, let's begin.

Vademon's Dimension Revisting
I feel like this feat should in fact be re-evaluated. It has proven to be much larger than we though via this image.


Also some may see this as an outlier, but I will say this is consistent with Digitamamon's feat of having a "universe" with countless stars and planets inside him. So maybe this stuff needs a re-evaluation overall.






Appmon Immunity to Conventional Mind Manipulation
This is simple. The Appmon have been referred to as Artificial Intelligence constantly throughout the series. There is also the fact that they are AI, created by an AI, i.e Minerva. And based upon the thread I made to answer this question, I believe this is legitimate.

Cometmon's ability
So Executor brought something to my attention. Apparently, Cometmon has the ability to control and defy gravity. However, he's so powerful, that he can control even entire planets to create meteorites. Not just gravity, but planets as a whole. We may get some Appmon upgrades from this.

An Appmon well-versed in astronomical knowledge. It has the ability to defy gravity, and is capable of creating meteorites at any time by controlling planets.
	~ Cometmon Official Appmon Chip Reference Book​

Leviathan Abilities
So there are some abilities I missed for base Leviathan.

-Petrification (She did it against Dantemon and turned him into stone)

-Statistics Amplification (She can amplify her strength through the L Code. She increased the strength of Ultimate 4 to face the Kiwami Appmon of the protagonists)

-Memory Erasure(Deleted the memory data of Sakusimon)

-Portal Creation (How Yujin created a portal for the Dark Web)

-BFR (Sent Hajime to the Dark Web)

-Pocket Reality Manipulation (Created a virtual dimension that simulated the Real World)

-Empathic Manipulation (She left humans without feelings in her world, when humans tried to express that feeling, it was erased)

Digimon Acausality
This is a simple fix. Basically all our Time Paradox Immune Digimon will become Acausal. This is also the fact that many Digimon transcend linear time and space as well.

I guess this was more of an Appmon Revision Thread, but hey. That's all for now.

 

[Reppuzan]

I have no idea how to address the Vademon thing.

The Appmon revisions are all okay.

The acausality thing is my fault, since I've been slow on this.

 

[Executor_N0]

One thing, Leviathan should have Energy Projection. He fired energy beams against the Appmon God in the last episode.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Oh yeah, forgot about that.

 

[Executor_N0]

And Existence Erasure? Leviathan said he could erase all mankind in a single instant.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

That as well.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I agree for all, but the Acausality thing I'm iffy on (not because of the reasoning for Digimon, but I'm un-Satisfied with the answers of how Acausality works on that thread. Same logic makes all immeausrables immune (not resistant-immune) to time and space manipulation, which is demonstratably false)

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

You should have commented on the thread then.

 

[Reppuzan]

@Cal

All of the relevant characters were unchanged after having the entire history of the multiverse rewritten. I'm pretty sure it counts.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

And then we have Zeed who not only existed before he was born, but resurrects from another point in Time and Space when he dies. Not to mention the obvious Digimon who'd be beyond linear time.

 

[FateAlbane]

Sounds all 'k to me. The Acausality stuff too, since we generally agreed by now that there are levels to it as well.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Also, we never actually decided what Cometmon's ability would rank him. Depending on the verdict it would upgrade all Ultimate and God Appmon.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Yeah, the Acausality stuff is just a simple change.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

No one said anything about my link? Sigh...fine ;_;

Note how I said iffy instead of against. Because I'd switch in a heartbeat on this, given it's uncontroversial and simple and not a big deal (and Cal is redundant)

@Reppu. Rewritten, reset, or erased? It may seem like semantics, but there's a noticeable difference. But again, this one doesn't matter to me. So I won't put up a fight. Last comment on that bit.

Wait, Zeed doesn't have it? That's a travesty that needs to be fixed immediately.

@Fate. Wait, that's a thing?

Oh. And Cometmon. Yeah, sounds pretty flowery if you ask me, if not hyperbolic. Surpasses that of anyone in Appmon, and is logically unsound. How do you summon meteorites via controlling planets?

 

[Executor_N0]

In Saint Seiya universes are created to launch meteors. What is the problem of controlling planets to launch meteors?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

"Rewritten, reset, or erased?"

Funny thing is, they've been through all 3.

"Oh. And Cometmon. Yeah, sounds pretty flowery if you ask me, if not hyperbolic. Surpasses that of anyone in Appmon, and is logically unsound. How do you summon meteorites via controlling planets?"

Umm, it's pretty blunt. It likely means that it can control the gravitational forces and pulls of planets. Since this is a gravity based Appmon.

 

[FateAlbane]

@Cal I heard that TP Immunity page *might* be removed in the future and put as the lowest kind/type of Acausality. Then we have these people like the Digimon here, I guess those like Madoka or Arceus too and then some.

But not sure so take it with a grain of salt.

Either way, I'm neutral in regards to this point since I know the only Acausals I care about aren't losing it either way.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

@Fate I should make a Lavos Acausality thread just to piss you off. ovo

 

[FateAlbane]

Suuuuuure. ovo Your first response will be a link to that tiny blog post I've written.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

That ruins the fun. (Coming the guy who supports the franchise with countless blogs)

 

[Executor_N0]

That ruins the fun. (Coming the guy who supports the franchise with countless blogs)

And more blogs will be created OvO (depending of course if my internet can download the files I need)

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So planet level Appmon? What does controlling the gravitational pull and force of entire planets yeild?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@Ex. I'm almost positive I got ninja'd INCREDIBLY hard between your post approximately 8-11 minutes ago and now, so take this with a grain of salt. Anyways...

Because there are 1, feats supporting that level, 2, you actually see it happening on-panel (pretty sure 1 and 2 can be combined), and 3, while highly impractical, it still makes sense to have meteors be hurled in a universe, because the universe isn't solid, and contains meteorites. Planets don't contain meteorites.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I mean, Appmon does have a Universal+ feat with Rebootmon I believe resetting the timeline.

 

[The_Everlasting]

@Cal

I think you're taking the statement a bit too literally.

I always interpreted it as crushing a planet into meteorite-sized bits and throwing them. It's a reasonable interpretation that links the two parts of the statement.

 

[Executor_N0]

I mean, Appmon does have a Universal+ feat with Rebootmon I believe resetting the timeline.

That's true, unfortunately. The game has not been translated into scans. But the gameplays confirm that Rebootmon would restart the world and in the end it restarted the timeline. In addition it was unaffected by the rewriting of the timeline

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Oh. And an absolute no for Vademon. Reeeally putting my foot down on how we regard some of these feats and how we label outliers. A series can easily have more than one. And this isn't Digimon solo either. Toeiverse DB and Sonic are subject to this as of recent.

And yet I still don't have 3-A Kirby. F***ing double standards (this much was a joke)

 

[The_Everlasting]

"Toeiverse DB"

Such as?

(Genuinely don't know if you mean DBS or the movies/GT)

"Sonic"

Sonic is becoming Tier 2, tho.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

You realize Vademon is why we have 4-B Digimon right?

 

[FateAlbane]

Yes, we don't have 3-A Kirby, sadly. *whistles with Hades' profile in the background.*

 

[PaChi2]

"Erasing all mankind" doesnt necessarily mean Existence Erasure. Goku can "erase all of mankind" with a ki blast.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@Ever. I'm referring to Broly. So the non-canon material. And I'm aware about Sonic. Sole reason I pointed it out.

@Dragon. Wendigomon has a High 4-C feat, iirc. Not too massive of a jump to go from single to low double digits Foe to ~100 Foe.

 

[Executor_N0]

"Erasing all mankind" doesnt necessarily mean Existence Erasure. Goku can "erase all of mankind" with a ki blast.

The concept of erasing in Digimon is really erasing nothing, do I need to bring the 15 Digimon scans with the DRB mentions again?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

And we also have Digitamamon's universe.

 

[The_Everlasting]

I feel like this is being misinterpreted as the "typical outlier belief".

Far higher feat =/= outlier.

Contradictory feat = outlier.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

"Erasing all mankind" doesnt necessarily mean Existence Erasure. Goku can "erase all of mankind" with a ki blast.

The concept of erasing in Digimon is really erasing nothing, do I need to bring the 15 Digimon scans with the DRB mentions again?

To be fair, Appmon and Digimon are slightly different.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Oh. And an absolute no for Vademon. Reeeally putting my foot down on how we regard some of these feats and how we label outliers. A series can easily have more than one. And this isn't Digimon solo either. Toeiverse DB and Sonic are subject to this as well.

 

[PaChi2]

If Leviathan hasnt shown the ability to "poof" people away, you cant assume that statement meant snapping people out of existence.

 

[The_Everlasting]

But one feat being far higher than the others isn't an outlier, a feat that contradicts their others is an outlier.

By that logic 3-A Goku is an outlier, or 4-B FFVII.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

If Leviathan hasnt shown the ability to "poof" people away, you cant assume that statement meant snapping people out of existence.

I mean, he did absorb people's mind, body and soul with a roar.