Murder Drones CRT: Durability

[RealDuker98]

So recently the Planet+ durability got removed(except for N... idk why)

But my question is- Why not scale them to the Continental and country calcs?

I mean after all only the KE calcs got debunked right?

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

N got forgotten lmao

 

[LoudestProcedure]

There's nothing really against it I agree

 

[AlloyAmi]

First calc, has no reason for them to scale, that implosion didn't even destroy the cathedral the characters were in. episode 7 shows the entire structure is fine outside and inside. all it did was cause global devastation via several environmental effects which killed all humans.

2nd calc idk if it got evaluated yet but id even go to say its an outlier with the amount of anti feats this series in comparison to the degree where it has no support toward the feat. The Disassembly Drones werent able to get past protective doors for months, with post episode 8 uzi still believing it still would have stopped them. N getting his arm crushed by boulders (and couldnt escape without cutting it off) and a pipe easily pierced through his arm. He was also knocked out by the cave in that put him in that situation, also struggling to destroy said cave with his weaponry and asked for uzi's solver hax to help. Uzi getting dazed and nearly knocked out by the spaceship hitting her, etc.

edit: pseudo season 2 has this happen to uzi

i know these can get a bit iffy standard and treatment wise but theres also the characters using weaponry like an average sword and pickaxe for the final fight, etc

Overall I'd opt for calcing feats like this.

idk why cyn is so much higher physically as well, because they really aren't allat physically with the final episode showing all of them (J, V, N, Uzi, Cyn) are generally on par. their 4-b calc is also an overtime thing that eventually grows to reach that state + the nulls are generally treated as hax. murder drones as a series with tier 5 physical stats just doesnt work narratively imo, and should be exclusive to solver hax tiering.

 

[Niko]

Are we gonna forget that Uzi and Nori who were in the pit were launched out of orbit from the explosion and the aftermath of that in the end was a big solver symbol hole in the planet?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Bump

 

[Psychomaster35]

Uzi's feat in Episode 7 is definitely still valid, it just needs to be re-evaluated so they can be Planet level again.

 

[AyOgUyS]

My thoughts are the same as AlloyAmi's

 

[Lilybitdun]

So recently the Planet+ durability got removed(except for N... idk why)

But my question is- Why not scale them to the Continental and country calcs?

I mean after all only the KE calcs got debunked right?

this seems more like a q&a thread than a crt thread

 

[RealDuker98]

this seems more like a q&a thread than a crt thread

It's framed more like a Q&A but I am still suggesting an upgrade.

 

[Kirua29]

First calc, has no reason for them to scale, that implosion didn't even destroy the cathedral the characters were in. episode 7 shows the entire structure is fine outside and inside. all it did was cause global devastation via several environmental effects which killed all humans.

2nd calc idk if it got evaluated yet but id even go to say its an outlier with the amount of anti feats this series in comparison to the degree where it has no support toward the feat. The Disassembly Drones werent able to get past protective doors for months, with post episode 8 uzi still believing it still would have stopped them. N getting his arm crushed by boulders (and couldnt escape without cutting it off) and a pipe easily pierced through his arm. He was also knocked out by the cave in that put him in that situation, also struggling to destroy said cave with his weaponry and asked for uzi's solver hax to help. Uzi getting dazed and nearly knocked out by the spaceship hitting her, etc.

edit: pseudo season 2 has this happen to uzi

i know these can get a bit iffy standard and treatment wise but theres also the characters using weaponry like an average sword and pickaxe for the final fight, etc

Overall I'd opt for calcing feats like this.

idk why cyn is so much higher physically as well, because they really aren't allat physically with the final episode showing all of them (J, V, N, Uzi, Cyn) are generally on par. their 4-b calc is also an overtime thing that eventually grows to reach that state + the nulls are generally treated as hax. murder drones as a series with tier 5 physical stats just doesnt work narratively imo, and should be exclusive to solver hax tiering.

I admit that I don't understand why you're still using arguments that have been debunked since 2023, and that the debunks have been validated, so what you're saying doesn't invalidate the feats. Because this kind of argument, like the church example for instance, had led to a downgrade for Murder Drones and Uzi down to country level as I recall, but it was later debunked by Trae, and all the characters regained their large planet level.

Because it's not the feat of the first explosion that's invalid, but the calculation, which was based on a crater that ultimately wasn't one. The feat is still valid, but the calculation is not, that's all.

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[Mythic381]

idk why cyn is so much higher physically as well,

She's only small building level...

 

[AlloyAmi]

I admit that I don't understand why you're still using arguments that have been debunked since 2023, and that the debunks have been validated, so what you're saying doesn't invalidate the feats. Because this kind of argument, like the church example for instance, had led to a downgrade for Murder Drones and Uzi down to country level as I recall, but it was later debunked by Trae, and all the characters regained their large planet level.

Because it's not the feat of the first explosion that's invalid, but the calculation, which was based on a crater that ultimately wasn't one. The feat is still valid, but the calculation is not, that's all.

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I watched and made my own arguments regarding this series in 2025, I don't know why I'd be obligated to be aware of a debunk not listed anywhere on the pages from 3 years ago. I could address it if you really want sometime in the future but I do not see what saves the feat in episode 1 at all, because the literal location they were in was unscathed by it. im saying there is no tanking to begin with. I do think its a valid AP feat for nulls since iirc planet core destruction stuff is solidly somewhere in tier 6 (prob high 6-a)

She's only small building level...

i just noticed her durability is listed like that lol, i don't know why her physical AP would be so much higher then everyone else without absolute solver stuff, its very clear the cast scales physically in the final fight.

 

[Kirua29]

I watched and made my own arguments regarding this series in 2025, I don't know why I'd be obligated to be aware of a debunk not listed anywhere on the pages from 3 years ago. I could address it if you really want sometime in the future but I do not see what saves the feat in episode 1 at all, because the literal location they were in was unscathed by it. im saying there is no tanking to begin with. I do think its a valid AP feat for nulls since iirc planet core destruction stuff is solidly somewhere in tier 6 (prob high 6-a)

Except that in his thread, he clearly explains why it didn’t take any damage. The church was already there before the scientists arrived, and they were there to study it, and we know that the church is linked to the Absolute Solver.

The church contains, for example, objects meant to stop the Solver in case of a problem, such as the blue light spots or the crucifix key. So you can’t tell me, “hey, this supernatural and magical church wasn’t destroyed during the implosion, therefore the implosion isn’t powerful.”

Anyway, I think you understand what I mean, that argument just doesn’t hold up. Moreover, we can clearly see in the episode in question that Nori and Yeva were both caught in the implosion, since the column of light moved toward the two of them. So they did in fact tank the implosion. And even if it turned out that the church was built by the scientists, which doesn’t make sense anyway, because why would they build a church in the Earth’s crust, then the buildings created by JcJanson have a level of durability that simply cannot be scaled. So, due to a lack of data, in every imaginable scenario the “church debunk” argument is basically inadequate.