Murder Drones CRT

[VIZION99]

Drone Physiology​

Space survival: Drones can survive in outer space
Information Analysis: Can scan things to gain info
Limited Adaptation: Their AI capabilities are adaptive

Disassembly Drone Physiology​

Standard Equipment should be changed to Dimensional Storage/Hammerspace since it it a actual ability.
Information Analysis should be changed to enhanced Information Analysis since worker drones already have it
Additional Limbs: As Eldritches, Disassembly Drones gain various tendrils

Cyn​

Social Influencing (Deception and Instigating Fear: Has tricked J and made her convinced to join Cyn out of fear of losing)
Resistence to Pain Manipulation: She is unfazed when her head was cut off
Absolute Solver Abilities
Immorality type 1: Is stated to be a eternal entity
Immorality type 7: Cyn is a zombie dorne. Should be comparable to Eldritches who also have type 7
Flight: Can use wings to fly
Darkness Manipulation, Pocket Reality Manipulation and BFR: Created a dark space and trapped Uzi with her
Memory Manipulation: Can digitally lobotomized N to make him lose his memories
Spatial Manipulation: Can bend space
Size Manipulation: Should have the same ability as Uzi
Possibly Light Manipulation should be changed to Light Manipulation: It is clear Cyn has this ability
Size Manipulation and Absorption: Has the ability to assimilate. Should be comparable to Eldritches

Uzi​

Genius intelligence: Approved here
For her solver form:
Berserk Mode: The solver can make Uzi more aggressive
Absolute Solver abilities:
Possession: Can possess a crow, could potentially possessed Cyn
Non-Physical Interaction: Comparable to Cyn who crush a blackhole


Note: I know that the eternal entity is referring to the absolute solver but Cyn's profile treats her and the solver as one character since it mentions how her conscious takes over other drones.

 

[FinePoint]

Standard Equipment should be changed to Dimensional Storage/Hammerspace since it it a actual ability.

Scan?

Information Analysis should be changed to enhanced Information Analysis since worker drones already have it

Not needed.

Cyn​

Resistence to Pain Manipulation: She is unfazed when her head was cut off

I don't really see evidence of this, and this is generally covered by Inorganic Physiology.

Absolute Solver Abilities
Immorality type 1: Is stated to be a eternal entity

It only says they're host to an eternal entity, not that they are one.

Immorality type 7: Cyn is a zombie dorne. Should be comparable to Eldritches who also have type 7

I suppose, but this is listed as a Possibly there.

Darkness Manipulation, Pocket Reality Manipulation and Sealing: Created a dark space and trapped Uzi with her

Could you provide more context for this scene?

Spatial Manipulation: Can bend space

Way too vague and indirect.

Size Manipulation: Should have the same ability as Uzi

Scan?

Possibly Light Manipulation should be changed to Light Manipulation: It is clear Cyn has this ability

Assuming that is light, and not just a glowing object, sure.

Size Manipulation and Absorption: Has the ability to assimilate. Should be comparable to Eldritches

Where does the Size Manipulation come into this?

Uzi​

For her solver form:
Berserk Mode: The solver can make Uzi more aggressive

Doesn't really feel like they're going berserk.

Absolute Solver abilities:
Possession: Can possess a crow, could potentially possessed Cyn

Could I have more context?

Non-Physical Interaction: Comparable to Cyn who crush a blackhole

We don't give abilities for being comparable.

Anything not mentioned is probably fine.

 

[Da3ggman]

It only says they're host to an eternal entity, not that they are one.

I don't have an opinion on anything in this thread but the entity that they are referring to is Cyn, as Uzi is their "host".

 

[FinePoint]

I don't have an opinion on anything in this thread but the entity that they are referring to is Cyn, as Uzi is their "host".

Well, regardless it's a pretty unreliable source.

 

[VIZION99]

Scan?

They can create for any weapons for any situation. Described as a Hammerspace.

It only says they're host to an eternal entity, not that they are one.

Uzi is the host while Cyn is the one possessing her.

Could you provide more context for this scene?

Cyn sends herself and Uzi to some dark realm and Uzi only escaped because she absorbed the absolute solver to kill Cyn.

Doesn't really feel like they're going berserk.

She did, and she only calm down when N showed up

Could I have more context?

Like what?

 

[FinePoint]

They can create for any weapons for any situation. Described as a Hammerspace.

This is probably fine them.

Uzi is the host while Cyn is the one possessing her.

Alright, though the source itself is still suspect.

Cyn sends herself and Uzi to some dark realm and Uzi only escaped because she absorbed the absolute solver to kill Cyn.

Isn't that more fittingly just BFR?

She did, and she only calm down when N showed up

I guess technically, it just doesn't feel very berserky. It's probably fine.

Like what?

I suppose indicating that they're possessing a crow, rather than turning into one- and that the second scan is a possession attempt and not something else.

 

[VIZION99]

Isn't that more fittingly just BFR?

True, I will change it then.

I suppose indicating that they're possessing a crow, rather than turning into one- and that the second scan is a possession attempt and not something else.

Here is a scan showing.Uzi possessing Cyn eldritch form

Where does the Size Manipulation come into this?

Cyn would scale to Eldritches who grow larger to more they absorb.

 

[FinePoint]

Here is a scan showing.Uzi possessing Cyn eldritch form

It's just a single frame of some light or something for me, there might've been an error.

Cyn would scale to Eldritches who grow larger to more they absorb.

Again, we generally don't grant abilities based on being comparable.

 

[VIZION99]

It's just a single frame of some light or something for me, there might've been an error.

Again, we generally don't grant abilities based on being comparable.

Overall, is the CRT approved?

 

[FinePoint]

Overall, is the CRT approved?

No. It needs another staff vote on the things I've approved.

The things I've not approved would need more.

 

[VIZION99]

No. It needs another staff vote on the things I've approved.

The things I've not approved would need more.

Can you ping another staff member then?

 

[FinePoint]

Can you ping another staff member then?

Anyone in particular?

 

[VIZION99]

Anyone in particular?

Just any staff member who can help approve this.

 

[FinePoint]

Just any staff member who can help approve this.

Sure, I can ping a couple.

@KingTempest @Catzlaflame

 

[KingTempest]

Fine's agreed points (no pun intended) work. Just make sure to add the scans to the OP

 

[VIZION99]

Fine's agreed points (no pun intended) work. Just make sure to add the scans to the OP

Is the CRT approved?

 

[Catzlaflame]

Information Analysis: Can scan things to gain info

All it says is “parental advisory” which I imagine is cinematic editing, what information is being analyzed ?

Immorality type 1: Is stated to be a eternal entity

Never seen a store listing used as a scan lol, idk neutral.

+ Finepoint’s fine points (pun absolutely intended) are okay.

 

[Ebihara]

Never seen a store listing used as a scan

Is a store description canon?

 

[VIZION99]

All it says is “parental advisory” which I imagine is cinematic editing, what information is being analyzed ?

Never seen a store listing used as a scan lol, idk neutral.

+ Finepoint’s fine points (pun absolutely intended) are okay.

If an addition on the CRT is neutral. Is it still allowed to be added?
and also, is the CRT finally approved?

 

[Ebihara]

If an addition on the CRT is neutral.

No, also cause finepoint doesn't seem to entirely agree on it either, will need 2 staff votes to approve anything.

I also think its really ridiculous that we are using an items description on a store page. Surely if the claim on the store page is true we have some actual reliable canon evidence to support this we could use as the scan instead. In no way should this be an accepted scan.

 

[VIZION99]

No, also cause finepoint doesn't seem to entirely agree on it either, will need 2 staff votes to approve anything.

I also think its really ridiculous that we are using an items description on a store page. Surely if the claim on the store page is true we have some actual reliable canon evidence to support this we could use as the scan instead. In no way should this be an accepted scan.

Store page merch are shown to be used a scans. For example. The alternates from Mandela Catalogue get hive mind because official merch says so.

 

[FinePoint]

Never seen a store listing used as a scan lol, idk neutral.

It's been pretty controversial in previous threads as far as I've seen.
My personal opinion is that it's similar to WOG, and can be used so long as it's not contradicted in any way, and what it's describing isn't multi-media (for example, Marvel toys could be referring to the comics OR the movies, so can't be used.)

+ Finepoint’s fine points (pun absolutely intended) are okay.

Some day, you will be punished for your sins.

 

[VIZION99]

It's been pretty controversial in previous threads as far as I've seen.
My personal opinion is that it's similar to WOG, and can be used so long as it's not contradicted in any way, and what it's describing isn't multi-media (for example, Marvel toys could be referring to the comics OR the movies, so can't be used.)

Some day, you will be punished for your sins.

overall, is the CRT finally approved?

 

[FinePoint]

overall, is the CRT finally approved?

The stuff all three of us have agreed on can probably be applied.

 

[VIZION99]

The stuff all three of us have agreed on can probably be applied.

thanks

 

[Ebihara]

Store page merch are shown to be used a scans. For example. The alternates from Mandela Catalogue get hive mind because official merch says so.

Thats truly not explaining why we take this as reliable at all. Just cause somthing was done wrong in the past doesn't mean we should keep using wrong information.

My personal opinion is that it's similar to WOG

This is much worse then WoG, atleast in that case we know its directly from the creator. Do we have any evidence at all this store page was written by someone who could have say on lore? We cant just assume a store page is canon info. The fact it was used before is ridiculous.

 

[FinePoint]

Thats truly not explaining why we take this as reliable at all. Just cause somthing was done wrong in the past doesn't mean we should keep using wrong information.
This is much worse then WoG, atleast in that case we know its directly from the creator. Do we have any evidence at all this store page was written by someone who could have say on lore? We cant just assume a store page is canon info. The fact it was used before is ridiculous.

Well, in my mind it's officially licensed and officially connected to the franchise.

Like if they sell a data-book we don't technically know if the creator signed off on every statement in it but we generally accept those.

I'm not sure I see the logic in it being so much less valid just because it's on an official website instead of on official paper.

 

[Ebihara]

Like if they sell a data-book we don't technically know if the creator signed off on

Many verses we don't use officially lisnced data book. Not that this is even slightly comparable. It is an items description on a store page..not some data in a novel or a data book or anything.

I'm not sure I see the logic in it being so much less valid just because it's on an official website instead of on official paper.

Cause its fluff to sell an item, this isn't some product dispensing lore. Is there any other supporting evidence that could accompany this scan? I think it would be irresponsible to let this hold the same weight as a real WoG statement.

 

[SweetDao]

Sharing Ebi's opinion on that, unless it's backed up by something, it seems very flimsy.

 

[FinePoint]

Many verses we don't use officially lisnced data book. Not that this is even slightly comparable. It is an items description on a store page..not some data in a novel or a data book or anything.

Cause its fluff to sell an item, this isn't some product dispensing lore. Is there any other supporting evidence that could accompany this scan? I think it would be irresponsible to let this hold the same weight as a real WoG statement.

Sharing Ebi's opinion on that, unless it's backed up by something, it seems very flimsy.

How would we feel about a "Possibly" as a compromise?

 

[SweetDao]

How would we feel about a "Possibly" as a compromise?

Personally, I wouldn't agree with a possibly unless it's at least implicit in the source material

 

[Ebihara]

How would we feel about a "Possibly" as a compromise?

Id be fine with that, and if we can get more evidence later to further support this then we could drop "possibly." I really think it shouldnt be added at all but If that's the middle ground I am OK with it.. kinda

 

[FinePoint]

Personally, I wouldn't agree with a possibly unless it's at least implicit in the source material

Well I think it's very likely given they're seemingly some kind of AI in a robot.
It would be surprising to me if they did age.

 

[VIZION99]

So overall, would immorality type 1 be accepted or not?

 

[FinePoint]

So overall, would immorality type 1 be accepted or not?

That's what we're currently discussing, friend.

 

[Ebihara]

very likely given they're seemingly some kind of AI in a robot.

Is there any quotes or scans implying this we can tag on. I feel like thst would be better?

 

[FinePoint]

Is there any quotes or scans implying this we can tag on. I feel like thst would be better?

You mean the fact they're an AI/robot?

Honestly, I feel like it's pretty implied just from the title of the show, but probably.

 

[Ebihara]

I would honestly be happier with just saying they have if based off being an AI then I would using the current scan lol.

You mean the fact they're an AI/robot?

Honestly, I feel like it's pretty implied just from the title of the show, but probably.

 

[SweetDao]

You mean the fact they're an AI/robot?

Honestly, I feel like it's pretty implied just from the title of the show, but probably.

I mean, not really? Is there proof that it would Immortality type 1 instead of longevity in the first place? Is there something like, idk, their materials will never rot away or something? If they are reliant on some physical support, it's very iffy to give them such immortality.

 

[FinePoint]

I mean, not really? Is there proof that it would Immortality type 1 instead of longevity in the first place? Is there something like, idk, their materials will never rot away or something? If they are reliant on some physical support, it's very iffy to give them such immortality.

Well the character in question is an AI which takes different hosts, seemingly, not the robot they're inside of it, which is apparently a different character.