Murder Drones Downgrades

[OrangeFR]

Wait, wait, it says "passive." Do we agree that means without direct offensive intent? So it doesn't include active, directed, or deliberately destructive phenomena.
That's the boundary between ED and DC/AP. Right?

I mean the wiki has this as the definition of ED: “Environmental Destruction describes a character's capability to damage and destroy an area around themselves, but not necessarily their capacity to realistically harm their opponent”. I am now rethinking my position, it doesn’t seem to be ED, but it definitely is not direct AP and would be an overtime hax thing.

 

[Kirua29]

I mean the wiki has this as the definition of ED: “Environmental Destruction describes a character's capability to damage and destroy an area around themselves, but not necessarily their capacity to realistically harm their opponent”. I am now rethinking my position, it doesn’t seem to be ED, but it definitely is not direct AP and would be an overtime hax thing.

Yeah, I agree. I also revised my judgment, for me it's a DC and a Hax

 

[AyOgUyS]

First time I've seen powerscalers agree on smth

 

[Kirua29]

First time I've seen powerscalers agree on smth

Lmao 100% true

 

[Soul80]

This discussion is going nowhere already lol

 

[Mythic381]

This discussion is going nowhere already lol

Not really, we managed to agree on it not being AP.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Well, there are enough votes to apply this, I'll probably do so sometime tomorrow.

 

[Monaitama]

Well, there are enough votes to apply this, I'll probably do so sometime tomorrow.

Wall level and Subsonic Murder Drones, lets go!

 

[Mythic381]

Wall level and Subsonic Murder Drones, lets go!

Speed is probably going to get massive revisions for after this.

 

[Kirua29]

Well, there are enough votes to apply this, I'll probably do so sometime tomorrow.

what changes will be applied ?

 

[Mythic381]

what changes will be applied ?

Everything in the CRT.

 

[Monaitama]

Everything? Oh lord, Murder Drones is literally gonna be wall level.

 

[Mythic381]

Everything? Oh lord, Murder Drones is literally gonna be wall level.

I fought Drones in my dreams, it was bound to happen.

 

[Kirua29]

Everything in the CRT.

but how do you know that everything will be applied, he never said so.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

None of the staff who voted disagreed with anything, so it'll all be applied.

 

[Mythic381]

but how do you know that everything will be applied, he never said so.

You are new to this aren't you?

The mods who vote to agree didn't disagree with anything in particular, so the votes count as agreeing to everything.

 

[Kirua29]

You are new to this aren't you?

The mods who vote to agree didn't disagree with anything in particular, so the votes count as agreeing to everything.

Yeah first time

 

[Mythic381]

Yeah first time

Makes sense. Now you know.

 

[Kirua29]

Makes sense. Now you know.

Thank you, and have a great day.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Everything? Oh lord, Murder Drones is literally gonna be wall level.

Not really, Uzi's feat at the end fo Episode 7 is still valid, all it needs is an update to account for the timeframe from Episode 8 (I haven't gotten to doing that yet due to college)

 

[Niko]

I wonder where the strongest Murder Drones Debater went...

Also unrelated, here's a lil' cool read on Cyn v Malware.

 

[Psychomaster35]

I don't know why you're giving everyone an Unknown rating when I clarified that Uzi's feat in Episode 7 is still valid...

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I don't know why you're giving everyone an Unknown rating when I clarified that Uzi's feat in Episode 7 is still valid...

I thought you said the calc has to be updated? Did you do that already?

 

[Lilybitdun]

Why not wait for the small recalc instead of making all of them Unknown

 

[Mythic381]

Why not wait for the small recalc instead of making all of them Unknown

It's going to get edited anyways, waiting wouldn't really matter much.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Why not wait for the small recalc instead of making all of them Unknown

Well, no one really gave me an ETA on that. Plus, all the Murder Drone supporters seemed like they were going to do another CRT anyway, so if they want to add new calcs, reasonings, or whatever, they can do that.

I would rather not let the profiles sit there, wrong for days or weeks, or however long it takes.

 

[DaReaperMan]

"Unknown", or as I like to call it: "I can't be ****** to even put basic tiers and research on the profiles"

 

[Mythic381]

"Unknown", or as I like to call it: "I can't be ****** to even put basic tiers and research on the profiles"

Omg it's the reverse flash

 

[Lilybitdun]

Yeah Unknown ratings is really ugly to have on profiles but I understand why

 

[Psychomaster35]

Just updated the Planet level calc.

 

[Flowerguy2]

Feel like Uzi and the others could potentially scaled to the full energy of the explosion itself released (Which is calculated around Country level) even without the Kinetic Energy part of the feat, since Uzi was fully in the epicenter of the Planet's core explosion it caused.

Because of that, this calc should be removed until a more reliable and well-supported feat can take its place.

also funny enough an recalculation of this feat was already made on my CRT thread of the series a long time ago lol

 

[Psychomaster35]

Feel like Uzi and the others could potentially scaled to the full energy of the explosion itself released (Which is calculated around Country level) even without the Kinetic Energy part of the feat, since Uzi was fully in the epicenter of the Planet's core explosion it caused.

also funny enough an recalculation of this feat was already made on my CRT thread of the series a long time ago lol

I just forgot about this and how I agreed with the recalculation LMAO

Yeah, if it got accepted, then it can be applied.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Just updated the Planet level calc.

Not trying to be annoying or nitpick, but I forget if calc members can sign off their own calcs/recalcs or if they need a second opinion.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Not trying to be annoying or nitpick, but I forget if calc members can sign off their own calcs/recalcs or if they need a second opinion.

According to our rules, a second approval is required.

 

[Niko]

The hell is this terrible change? Did we really agree for this???

 

[Lilybitdun]

The hell is this terrible change? Did we really agree for this???

Read through the 5 pages of discussion

 

[Demon_Lord18]

The hell is this terrible change? Did we really agree for this???

ActuallySpaceMan is acting within the legality of the wiki’s rules. The CRT was accepted, so he applied the changes, but I think it would’ve been better to wait. The profiles look really messy with too many unknown statistics.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Alright, once the recalc is reviewed by some other calc member, it can be applied to durability. Honestly, it shouldn't be too hard to get the pages' proper statistics again, the verse has plenty of feats, it's just the most extreme ones were a bit off.

 

[Monaitama]

Alright, once the recalc is reviewed by some other calc member, it can be applied to durability. Honestly, it shouldn't be too hard to get the pages' proper statistics again, the verse has plenty of feats, it's just the most extreme ones were a bit off.

Those are the only feats in Murder Drone's, lol.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Those are the only feats in Murder Drone's, lol.

I severely doubt that. Explosions from their weapons, vaporization from their lasers, how fast they can actually run and fly, all these things can be calced. It'll just result in a lot more grounded Tiers.