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I'll put in the TL;DR here, the Drones scaling to the explosion makes no sense and this calc both proves why and gives us a new scale.
Now for the longer version:
This here is the explosion.
Watch the scene carefully. See the issue? No? Let me explain.
1. The explosion came from inside and all the energy went into the atmosphere.
It was a core explosion, as in, the very center of the planet, and it seemed to explode more so like an erruption, blasting upwards into space, rather than being a constantly expanding erruption. This is supported by the fact that we see a shockwave move the planet's clouds for only a certain extent and then stop.
This also supports the fact that the characters could not have tanked an explosion that didn't reach them in the first place as only the shockwave ever reached them.
Need more proof? Fine. Here it is
2. In the scene right after in the place where worker drones live (the only known place where they live) we see very well that the buildings are intact and humans skeletons are very much intact as well, despite being outside.
Yep, 6-B humans anyone? I think it is pretty clear that whatever of the explosion reached them managed to kill the humans but clearly not char them or the buildings. Buildings, skeletons, bunkers...Hell, even forests survived. Note, these trees are BIG. They've been here for a while and it hasn't been a while since the explosion happened. WDs didn't live long before the Murder Drones appeared, this happened within a short time-span as N's master from before he became a DD is only just now an adult or a young-adult.
In short, if the explosion with 6-B force hit everything within a planet's radius i think everything would begone, and yet here we are with lakes, buildings and spooky scary skeletons.
3. There's no evidence that there were WDs anywhere near the explosion that survived
This is simple. All Worker Drones we see live in a city and near the city we see no, you know, pacific ocean-sized burned out crater? Yeah, it is nowhere near the actual explosion site, and there's nothing to suggest that anyone tanked it there.
And finally, the big one
4. 6-B is a MASSIVE OUTLIER.
There are exactly 0 AP or durability feats that are beyond tier 0 for this verse. All feats are some damage to floors, missiles with small explosions and Uzi getting thrown into the clouds this one time. There is nothing that is even tier 8, much less freaking Country level.
"But Arceus, verses without many feats can have higher tiers since it is hard to be an outlier in that case! To have an outlier they need to have a lower feat push them to their limit!"
Two things.
1. It does have feats, they are just lower end tier 9 and uncalculated
and
2. Say hello to this. Uzi tanks an explosion and seemingly gets hurt. Here's the calc. It couldn't even properly nuke the bunker door. Now, one could argue that the bandages were a meaningless little thing similar to how drones always imitate humans meaninglessly (admittedly i doubt they need a cold compress) but nevertheless despite being rebellious by nature, Uzi still keeps herself bandaged up for a while which means she probably was hurt to at least some extent.
5. True final one, the entire point of ep 1 is that DDs cannot and I repeat CANNOT get past the giant metal doors and cannot destroy the facility.
If they were 6-B they could have just sliced through the steel doors, ones that, you know, were never suggested to be some 6-B material and ones that can be welded into, well, doors.
These are also human made bunkers so they've no reason to be made to fight off 6-B threats.
OVERALL
The characters need to be downgraded to 9-A and scaled from that. That is basically all
AGREE: @Newendigo, @HonestlyBored24, @Setsuna_tenma, @Jaften , @Da3ggman, @Tllmbrg, @LephyrTheRevanchist, @Ikelaggan, @Harith0cell, @JimedBro2020, @Vzearr, @Kisaragi_Megumi
DISAGREE: @Psychomaster35, @Bernkastelll
NEUTRAL: @The_Pink_God
I'll put in the TL;DR here, the Drones scaling to the explosion makes no sense and this calc both proves why and gives us a new scale.
Now for the longer version:
This here is the explosion.
Watch the scene carefully. See the issue? No? Let me explain.
1. The explosion came from inside and all the energy went into the atmosphere.
It was a core explosion, as in, the very center of the planet, and it seemed to explode more so like an erruption, blasting upwards into space, rather than being a constantly expanding erruption. This is supported by the fact that we see a shockwave move the planet's clouds for only a certain extent and then stop.
This also supports the fact that the characters could not have tanked an explosion that didn't reach them in the first place as only the shockwave ever reached them.
Need more proof? Fine. Here it is
2. In the scene right after in the place where worker drones live (the only known place where they live) we see very well that the buildings are intact and humans skeletons are very much intact as well, despite being outside.
Yep, 6-B humans anyone? I think it is pretty clear that whatever of the explosion reached them managed to kill the humans but clearly not char them or the buildings. Buildings, skeletons, bunkers...Hell, even forests survived. Note, these trees are BIG. They've been here for a while and it hasn't been a while since the explosion happened. WDs didn't live long before the Murder Drones appeared, this happened within a short time-span as N's master from before he became a DD is only just now an adult or a young-adult.
In short, if the explosion with 6-B force hit everything within a planet's radius i think everything would begone, and yet here we are with lakes, buildings and spooky scary skeletons.
3. There's no evidence that there were WDs anywhere near the explosion that survived
This is simple. All Worker Drones we see live in a city and near the city we see no, you know, pacific ocean-sized burned out crater? Yeah, it is nowhere near the actual explosion site, and there's nothing to suggest that anyone tanked it there.
And finally, the big one
4. 6-B is a MASSIVE OUTLIER.
There are exactly 0 AP or durability feats that are beyond tier 0 for this verse. All feats are some damage to floors, missiles with small explosions and Uzi getting thrown into the clouds this one time. There is nothing that is even tier 8, much less freaking Country level.
"But Arceus, verses without many feats can have higher tiers since it is hard to be an outlier in that case! To have an outlier they need to have a lower feat push them to their limit!"
Two things.
1. It does have feats, they are just lower end tier 9 and uncalculated
and
2. Say hello to this. Uzi tanks an explosion and seemingly gets hurt. Here's the calc. It couldn't even properly nuke the bunker door. Now, one could argue that the bandages were a meaningless little thing similar to how drones always imitate humans meaninglessly (admittedly i doubt they need a cold compress) but nevertheless despite being rebellious by nature, Uzi still keeps herself bandaged up for a while which means she probably was hurt to at least some extent.
5. True final one, the entire point of ep 1 is that DDs cannot and I repeat CANNOT get past the giant metal doors and cannot destroy the facility.
If they were 6-B they could have just sliced through the steel doors, ones that, you know, were never suggested to be some 6-B material and ones that can be welded into, well, doors.
These are also human made bunkers so they've no reason to be made to fight off 6-B threats.
OVERALL
The characters need to be downgraded to 9-A and scaled from that. That is basically all
AGREE: @Newendigo, @HonestlyBored24, @Setsuna_tenma, @Jaften , @Da3ggman, @Tllmbrg, @LephyrTheRevanchist, @Ikelaggan, @Harith0cell, @JimedBro2020, @Vzearr, @Kisaragi_Megumi
DISAGREE: @Psychomaster35, @Bernkastelll
NEUTRAL: @The_Pink_God
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