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Naruto vs Samus (1-3-0)

Okay and how is this all different from a standard byakugan in this situation? Like none of this shows she could tell a clone from the original since the clones have biological identical bodies to Naruto himself while possessing the exact same amount of chakra and abilities.
The fact the original would have already been marked? The fact she literally can and has done that before?
People with interdimensional advanced danger and chakra sensing couldn't see through Narutos trickery and clone shenanigans so what exactly makes Samus good enough to do so?
The fact Samus LITERALLY also has that? On top of everything else?

She can track interdimensional entities, things trapped in dimensional flux down to the atomic scale, etc. Whether it's Chozo Ghosts, 90% of the enemies in Prime 2 like the Ing or those Dark Troopers, dark Aether stuff, etc. This shit is nothing dude.
Her's is arguably better given she can tell shit like how many atoms are dispersed between dimensions even.

Can it detect what skills Naruto learned? Because almost none of his relevant abilities here are based on his physiology, they're all learned skills.
Yes. It can tell her shit it shouldn't even remotely know, from random magic, random sci fi shit, even if someone is skilled, what martial arts training they have, etc.
That again just sounds like the byakugan or 6 paths senjutsu. What exactly is there about her kit which makes it harder to fool than a byakugan?
The fact it's basically all the shit combined with better feats than them?
Last I checked Byakugan couldn't tell Neji the instant something was born on the other side of the planet, the locations of exact targets across a planetary scale, at all times, the exact motions and movements and location of marked enemies across the planet, and mind you, numerous at once, constantly, at all times, it can even pick up stupid shit like space-time distortions, shift in air currents or seismic activity or even a temp drop a planet's distance away.

AND, you could probably argue some layered bullshit given she can scan Dark Samus, who has every ability of her Varia suit.
Like how is this stopping Naruto from turning into a bunch of sexy naked men and yanking Samus across the face while she's surprised?
Ice forcefields that can protect from heat as hot as the core of a star that can freeze even ghosts.
Also, you're joking? She isn't going to be taken by surprised by that, shapeshifters aren't new to her. In fact, she's always calm and collected no matter what (that or angry, but she's never SHOOK tot he point of losing focus), that's how her power suit works even, you don't think being jumped by eldritch aliens, naked ladies (this HAS happened before, thanks Prime 3) or whatever spooky ass shit she's encountered or been sneak attacked by could cause her will to stagger, yet you think THAT would???

Nah dude, this isn't even a argument.
Why? What kind of feats does she have that suggest she can overcome Narutos danger sensing and emotion sensing?
Has boxed SA-X (has all her abilities in this key) and Dark Samus, who also have wacky senses and shit, given the fact they have uh, all her abilities in Varia key.
The fact she actually resists stuff like analytical prediction+infoanal (and maybe minor precog id need to check) due to Mother Brain being unable to predict her and prob some funny aliens, like I know in Prime a few aliens get noted to be able to sense motion, bloodlust, etc (one of the funny plant things off the top of my head).
The fact her emotional state is default calm and collected.
The fact by the time he even senses danger it'd be to late given AOE.
Why? I'd say it's match up dependent.
Well it's bad here.
I mean she can try, that's exactly what all of Narutos opponents tried as well, but since Naruto is the most unpredictable person in the verse they all failed.
Dude, her scan visor will literally tell her what to do. And she can use it repeatedly should he attempt to change things up.

And you don't think Samus doesn't have experience with unpredictability? If anything, she's well suited for this, she's fought everything from humans, to even the most alien-minded abstract entities imaginable. Whether it's human behavior to actual literal alien behavior, she can adapt on the fly instantly.
Also let's be real, his unpredictability isn't actually that unpredictable.
Like I'm sorry but so far I've listed a ton of feats and I'm yet to see a single one for Samus that would even remotely imply she can keep up with or outsmart Narutos trickery.
Your feats kinda suck tho?
Like end of the day list as many feats as you want, trickery isn't gonna work when she knows it's gonna happen beforehand due to basically having every wacky sensing ability in Naruto, combined, on crack, with greater range, potency and details, while also being fed actual intel on like everything he's doing.

And mind you, this is ignoring the fact that's gonna be on top of infinite ammo plasma beams, ice beams, the emerald splash, etc both of which shred his clones due to lack of resistances and may as well one shot him regardless of durability, her own innate enhanced senses (Literally has a move called Sense ong in the shitty game), protective projectiles that may as well be AZ that can freeze incoming attacks, power bombs that would flash vaporize him with hefty AOE (in which she has a fuckton of),
 
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Actually ya know what, ya can prob just look up a textdump of scans from Prime 1/2/3/Hunt to get an idea of how actually ******* dumb it can be.
99% of scan feats from those, outside of that she uses it only a few times in other games and manga like in cutscenes, but only like 15-20 times tops like scanning a ocean and seeing it's acid or some flora or whatnot.
Combat visor and map not included, those have feats in manga and map especially gets some of its good shit from Dread (though map has a lot of it's planetary niche sensing from prime games, actual combat stuff is more Dread).
 
Can her visor see through smoke?
Yeah, she has targeting systems, and a bunch of other shit baked in, she also has an X-ray visor as mentioned that can see through like anything, smoke evidently included to see things within like enemies. It can ALSO see invisible things, which is ******* weird that the same thing that sees through shit can make it so shit that can be seen through can't be, but it is what it is.

Also has infrared apparently and can see in the dark ig.

Skimming the profile, it should also be noted she can pick up people shit talking her from space, sense surprise attacks before they happen and from places she wouldn't see or suspect (including those she seconds prior trusted), can sense so much as a bug move toward her from behind from like 20m away, etc.
 
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That's just how literally anyone works…? Like yeah Narutos organs are average human level (canonically it's impossible to strengthen them in Naruto) so his skin and chakra cloak has to do exactly what her armor does.
And yet frog strike can still ignore the durability of its targets.
Samus would actually be immune to this attack, then. Her internals are those of a physically 9-B person (her dura is 9-B, her AP is 9-C+), if the only people Frog Strike is shown to work on have un-enhanced internals.
 
The fact the original would have already been marked? The fact she literally can and has done that before?
That doesn't help tho? Neji, Kakuzu, and Kaguya also saw Narutos original when he made clones and he still somehow swapped positions with one of them. He just has that level stealth and unpredictability.
The fact Samus LITERALLY also has that? On top of everything else?
How does that answer my question? Yeah Samus has all the stuff that FAILED to overcome Narutos tricks, that's literally my point.
She can track interdimensional entities, things trapped in dimensional flux down to the atomic scale, etc. Whether it's Chozo Ghosts, 90% of the enemies in Prime 2 like the Ing or those Dark Troopers, dark Aether stuff, etc. This shit is nothing dude.
Yes exactly and all of that was useless against Narutos tricks. How is her having shit that failed to protect people from Naruto going to protect her from Naruto? 😭
Her's is arguably better given she can tell shit like how many atoms are dispersed between dimensions even.
What's more important? Sensing individual atoms or sensing danger ahead of time?
Yes. It can tell her shit it shouldn't even remotely know, from random magic, random sci fi shit, even if someone is skilled, what martial arts training they have, etc.
Okay but how does that specifically work. There's nothing about Narutos physical body that would indicate he can say, use nature energy. Can she even sense nature energy? Like I'm asking how her visor works not what it shows.
The fact it's basically all the shit combined with better feats than them?
Last I checked Byakugan couldn't tell Neji the instant something was born on the other side of the planet, the locations of exact targets across a planetary scale, at all times, the exact motions and movements and location of marked enemies across the planet, and mind you, numerous at once, constantly, at all times, it can even pick up stupid shit like space-time distortions, shift in air currents or seismic activity or even a temp drop a planet's distance away.
And how is any of that even remotely relevant here? How is having planetary range relevant if Naruto isn't covering planetary range? How is knowing when Naruto was born going to help her predict he'll transform into a bunch of naked men?

Like you're mentioning all this useless glaze as if it was any relevant when all the actually relevant stuff is essentially the same.

"Oh Samus is actually waaay better because she can tell how much piss you have in your balls and that will absolutely help her predict your completely unpredictable strategies"
AND, you could probably argue some layered bullshit given she can scan Dark Samus, who has every ability of her Varia suit.
Wow she can scan people with resistance to info analysis? Wowza, that's SO RELEVANT in s fight where her opponent doesn't resist it at all and is definitely not just useless fluff to make it sound like she's any better than she actually is 🤯
Ice forcefields that can protect from heat as hot as the core of a star that can freeze even ghosts.
Chakra passively resists ice manip so I really don't see how that's relevant. And if she has passive force field that makes her unbeatable wouldn't this be an absurd stomp lmao?
Also, you're joking? She isn't going to be taken by surprised by that, shapeshifters aren't new to her.
Yeah neither are they to Naruto characters it's literally academy level fodder shit. What IS new to basically everyone is Naruto suddenly transforming into multiple sexy gay men/women in your face mid battle and has caught people as stupidly experienced as Hiruzen or Kaguya by surprise.
In fact, she's always calm and collected no matter what (that or angry, but she's never SHOOK tot he point of losing focus), that's how her power suit works even, you don't think being jumped by eldritch aliens, naked ladies (this HAS happened before, thanks Prime 3) or whatever spooky ass shit she's encountered or been sneak attacked by could cause her will to stagger, yet you think THAT would???
None of this is even remotely comparable to base sexy jutsu lmao. Fighting naked ladies and suddenly getting flashed with gay ******** **** mid attack are NOT even remotely comparable in terms of surprise factor.
Nah dude, this isn't even a argument.
It very much is and nothing you have said or shown so far even remotely implies she wouldn't be surprised by it. People who knew literally every ninjutsu and have fought in countless wars as well as aliens with millenia of combat experience that literally absorb all of the information of multiple civilizations have been caught by surprise here and your only real argument against it was "well Samus is calm and collected" like that makes you impossible to surprise.
Has boxed SA-X (has all her abilities in this key) and Dark Samus, who also have wacky senses and shit, given the fact they have uh, all her abilities in Varia key.
Having "wacky senses" really doesn't compare to straight up sensing danger and emotions of your opponent.
The fact she actually resists stuff like analytical prediction+infoanal (and maybe minor precog id need to check) due to Mother Brain being unable to predict her and prob some funny aliens, like I know in Prime a few aliens get noted to be able to sense motion, bloodlust, etc (one of the funny plant things off the top of my head).
Good thing Narutos danger sense isn't him analyzing and predicting the opponent but literally him sensing danger then.
The fact her emotional state is default calm and collected.
Wowza being calm and collected makes you impossible to catch by surprise AND counters danger sense? Damn I didn't know your average Joe is so overpowered, if only any of the trained veteran soldier ninjas were at least slightly calm and collected.
The fact by the time he even senses danger it'd be to late given AOE.
Can she time travel to a point before Naruto danger sensed or something, or how is it too late?
Well it's bad here.
How? You are yet to give a single reason to how Naruto predicting what exactly she's planning and how is not good here.
Dude, her scan visor will literally tell her what to do. And she can use it repeatedly should he attempt to change things up.
And then she'll realize the visor was wrong because Naruto swapped with his clones through substitution and the visor didn't pick it up. Same way Kakuzu, Kaguya, and Neji didn't despite literally staring at Naruto the whole time.
And you don't think Samus doesn't have experience with unpredictability? If anything, she's well suited for this, she's fought everything from humans, to even the most alien-minded abstract entities imaginable. Whether it's human behavior to actual literal alien behavior, she can adapt on the fly instantly.
Yeah but there's a difference between having experience with unpredictability and fighting the most unpredictable person in a verse where predicting your opponent is the key to winning and people have borderline future sight and yet they can't predict Nard.
Also let's be real, his unpredictability isn't actually that unpredictable.
Why not? I listed so much shit about it, you can't just say "nah it's bad"
Your feats kinda suck tho?
Like end of the day list as many feats as you want, trickery isn't gonna work when she knows it's gonna happen beforehand due to basically having every wacky sensing ability in Naruto, combined, on crack, with greater range, potency and details, while also being fed actual intel on like everything he's doing.
"List any feat of Naruto overcoming her abilities, it's not going to help him overcome her abilities"
Crazy shit bro, I didn't know Samus was omniscient.
And mind you, this is ignoring the fact that's gonna be on top of infinite ammo plasma beams, ice beams, the emerald splash, etc both of which shred his clones due to lack of resistances and may as well one shot him regardless of durability, her own innate enhanced senses (Literally has a move called Sense ong in the shitty game), protective projectiles that may as well be AZ that can freeze incoming attacks, power bombs that would flash vaporize him with hefty AOE (in which she has a fuckton of),
Which btw there has not been a single argument for how she even hits Naruto to begin with.
Samus would actually be immune to this attack, then. Her internals are those of a physically 9-B person (her dura is 9-B, her AP is 9-C+), if the only people Frog Strike is shown to work on have un-enhanced internals.
Except Naruto isn't only hitting her with average human level force…? Like the power of his frog strike is still the power of his strike. It could force a rod out of Gokus body despite not even his class G self being able to pull it out.
 
The FRA train here is also pretty crazy because so far the only argument for her even tagging him was an AOE one shot attack which she supposedly wouldn't use because she doesn't kill people, and if she did it would be a huge stomp given he wouldn't even be able to interact with her.
 
All her attacks are AOE, her beam weapons are very modular so she can just turn off the lethal stuff- although you're arguing none of it is insta-lethal, so. And it's not such a wide AOE that it can't be dodge, just not dodgeable in the long run since all she needs to do is adjust her aim slightly.
 
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Trying to read everything but too many walls of text. Id appreciate a tldr if someone feels inclined.
 
So anyone plan on reworking the Naruto profile? From what I've gathered in this thread there seems to be missing feats/resistances that are notable enough to be included in the profile
 
Yeah I'd personally just wait when Narutos profile is in a decent state (so like a decade)
So anyone plan on reworking the Naruto profile? From what I've gathered in this thread there seems to be missing feats/resistances that are notable enough to be included in the profile
I think some of the supporters are working on it but to be honest I was not really paying attention when they talked about it 😭
 
Reviving this to ask about Samus’s scanner, how is she able to use it? The scanner has a decent bit of charge up time and requires line of sight, i think there’s a good chance Naruto is bouncing around so much she’ll have a lot of trouble getting a proper reading before she’s overwhelmed.
 
Reviving this to ask about Samus’s scanner, how is she able to use it? The scanner has a decent bit of charge up time and requires line of sight, i think there’s a good chance Naruto is bouncing around so much she’ll have a lot of trouble getting a proper reading before she’s overwhelmed.
Her scan visor doesn't really take that long to fully scan her enemies; it's at worst 2-5 seconds long.
Also Samus is able to scan while running, so if she's able to keep up with Naruto, it shouldn't be a problem especially with the speed booster.

Also this thread is like, very outdated cause Kurama Mode is High 6-A now. EDIT: I'm dumb.
 
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