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Nonduality or Transduality for The Primordial - God of war
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The new "Non-dualism" type sucks ass. It practically dosen't explain anything. All that's explained is how you can get rid of non dualism on characters that have it.
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Shrugs
That's the new standard, whether we like it or not. My point is that here isn't the place to debate the change itself.
Also, it's at its core just "I exist independent to X duality so using X duality to attack me won't work". High level metaphysical powers like Law Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation etc. can get around that.
That's the new standard, whether we like it or not. My point is that here isn't the place to debate the change itself.
Also, it's at its core just "I exist independent to X duality so using X duality to attack me won't work". High level metaphysical powers like Law Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation etc. can get around that.
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existing before dualities give you nonduality??? 
anyway put me as neutral
anyway put me as neutral
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Essentially, like conceptual transfer, conceptual sealing, conceptual sealing (etc.) can negate this.
Just like creating a soul for a robot that doesn't have a soul and now it has a soul.
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That's what happens when a thread gets accepted without input from knowledgeable staffexisting before dualities give you nonduality???
anyway put me as neutral
Georredannea15
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So, how can you call creation of this a "transduality"?
If the dualities are here, there is no problem in that regard, the problem is transcendence
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Dude, you didn't even know how many staff there were in that thread. So don't talk too much and change the standards if you don't like it, I didn't agree either but that's the way it is
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A 6 page thread with every relevant staff member in regards to the page and the upper levels of the tiering system participating in it... was accepted without input from "knowledgeable staff"? Is that just a term being thrown around or do you genuinely believe some hidden Transduality staff weren't consulted? What a baffling comment.
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I'm not arguing for R>F here at all. I just seriously can not see how that makes Primordials non dual, like at all.
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Well, the main argument is that the primordials are outside and independent of them, but also exist before them (existing before them is just an additional supporting element).
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But how though? They are the concepts themselves (in this case dualities) not outside these concepts.
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Uhhhh.... what?
Fuji made the thread. Multiple high-ranking knowledgeable staff members weighed in on it and accepted it. Could it have clarified exactly what dualities represent? Yes, it could have, but the thread got accepted at large by staff all the same. Do you say shit just for the sake of it?
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They are just the concepts themselves, not the dualities. There may be concepts that are outside of dualities or transcendent
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We index what we can observe from series according to our standards so this comment doesn't even make sense. Like, this is the second time you've implied that we need WoG for tiering purposes, which is silly as all hell.
If you're expecting us to do things according to "the author doesn't believe in it!" then you're on the wrong site and forum. Actually address the issue beyond "this is just using standards!" cause... that's how most of the wiki works.
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Dualities are just opposite concepts.
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Good luck with that.
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.... Yeah... So?
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Georredannea15
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I've already touched on it. This is not a counter-argument, the concept itself, which can exist outside the duality system. Lol it's simple.
And yes, please don't make this a page-long discussion. Thank you!
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I don't see how Primordials are above this concepts/dualities. They ARE the very concepts that make up really, not something outside or independent of them.
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I think some people dont read what i write entirely and not read the current standard of nonduality
Morpheus is literally said can merge the duality system, the all of creation, make he him self a nonduality of oneness. A one indivisible reality it self for long ago is already accepted as nonduality, even transduality in some case. Simulteneously 0 and 1 (true and false)
And in the current standard, you can have nonduality just by predate or being independent or outside from duality
Morpheus is literally said can merge the duality system, the all of creation, make he him self a nonduality of oneness. A one indivisible reality it self for long ago is already accepted as nonduality, even transduality in some case. Simulteneously 0 and 1 (true and false)
And in the current standard, you can have nonduality just by predate or being independent or outside from duality
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I did.
Ok, so? He merged two realities together, 2-C AP.
You don't get Non Dualism from AP, Non Dualism is a state of being, that's like calling Omnipresence speed.
That's not stated on the page though.
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Nothing good comes from bringing her, seriously she is just a bad omen at this point.
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No, you didnt
He merge the dual system, just read
Keep stonewalling, i just see you even not read any of what that written
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Don't go over this topic because you haven't read the new thread and the page hasn't been refreshed yet. That thread was already 6 pages of hell, don't do that here too.
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Alright, this kind of pretentious attitude dosen't belong here. Goddamn defend your arguments or don't even bother to respond.
I did read the arguments and the page standard, stop looking down on people who have genuine questions, respond to them or leave.
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Non duality ? So it become less strict now ? Light of Alfheim Nonduality too then (stated to be transcend life and death) ? i believe life and death are implied to be dual system in GoW. (souls in GoW has CM type 3 properties btw)
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so verse now just need mention light and darkness, no need to elaborate, they get duality???, then predate light and darkness mean you nonduality??, lol
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thats what i was thinking
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No bruh not that one
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