part 2 plants vs zombies speed buffs and some hax additions

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

PLANTS VS ZOMBIES 2 SPEED BUFFS
before I start this passage I want to make it clear that that the Chinese games are canon and take place during pvz 2 as in the pvz concept art book which is told from the zombies point of view as in it the zombies recall the events of pvz Chinese similar to how they recall all the other game events like pvz 1 -2 and plants vs zombies adventures making them usable for scaling
now with this point out of the way let me start with the speed feats from them
supersonic to hypersonic+ to possible ftl+ for the plants reaction time
plants like pineapple can react to and block bullets from range to point blank or from from far away as well as this being machine gun fire with other plants in sky city air raid(like peashooters) being able to react to and dodge bullets from regular guns to machine guns as well as this being consisent with them being able to fight dodge bullets from the zombies invisibie jets as well as attacks from lightning gun zombie who shoots plasma out from his lightning gun which u can argue is moving at the speed of lightning but I find this more debatable but without this the plants should scale towards all stars 12.17 mach feat as pvz 2 takes place during pvz heroes and gw1 with pvz 2 even having a crossover with pvz heroes where they actually show up in game
with the plants being able to react to his charge attack and even dodge it before he touches them as well as in pvz Journey To The West sun wukong peashooter(yes this exist) has speed feat where he travels across a mountain distance in seconds with him also tanking a mountain explosion and shaking heaven itself(odd)
ut their is also a ftl+ cal for jester zombie here ( I haven't seen this get bought up any where or used so I thought I give it some attention) which u can argue this one as a outliner but with the comics and later games this is consistent.

PLANTS VS ZOMBIES HEROES AND GW RELATIVISTIC+ TO FTL SPEED BUFFS
ok now before I start this part in this thread by me and in multiple by ednaxel their should be enough evidence to claim lasers In pvz are sol but other lasers like laser bean lasers(which ain't confirmed to have any type of speed) are faster then margnifying grass radiation waves
massively hypersonic+ and Relativistic+ to ftl
in the gw vol 3 comics the Nate Patrice and plants was able to dodge electricity and lasers withe super brainz reacting to green shadow lasers and the plant heroes dodging the z mech lasers with the future zombies dodging lasers in the pvz time apocalypse or super brainz also dodging citron lasers while dancing and citron dodging the imp mech lasers as well this is even more consistent with huge - gigantacus being able to pilot zomboss rocket to meteor z and the bfn plants and zombies being able to dodge lasers from zomboss Satellite
with zombies in pvz heroes being able to react and block attacks from sonic bloom ( he attacks faster then sound) to laser bean and laser cattail who shoots lasers and Magnifying Grass attacks which are radiation waves making them sol and Plantern attacks which are light as well as power flower or attacks from High-Voltage Currant electric blueberry Meteor Strike and lightning reed who attacks are lightning and electricity with plants heroes being to react to and block Electrobolt Turquoise Skull Zombie lasers hover-goats lasers and engineers drone lasers making massively hypersonic+ and relativistic+ to ftl extremely consistent as there are 20 different feats outside of power chomper statement that get to massively hypersonic+ or plain out gets higher into the relativistic and ftl ranges quite easily but there is some higher stuff I would like to get into like the mftl to mftl+ part which is more so debatable so I thought it be better to put it as a possible thing due to how debatable it is.

possible mftl-mftl+
yea this will be the most debatable part of this thread but starting it off Mr,Stubbin's has speed feat where he travels first travels to a whole other solar system then back to earth before having a ocean adventure then completed a whole Wrestling match then he goes on to win a karaoke championship all in one night before the sun came up with this not having a calculation for it.
their is also being this cal for Beta-Carrotina by ednaxel which got dismiss as beta Carrotina and her other plants use a portal to get to earth before meteor z could and this argument falls As the the only arguments against the latter is that they used a portal to travel to earth due to meteor z getting to it faster then they could which can be disproven by the fact it clearly said they got traveled to our solar system and flying there
with the old cutscene showing them flying down to earth not using the portels supporting the fact that they were trying to get to earth to warn the plant heroes before the space zombies got to earth on meteor z.
with there also being a feat by cosmic brainz's where he travels from where we seen him in space from the telescope to earth in seconds this is debatable as depending on ur view of it the feat can be mftl+ to 256 mach
lastly zombies can pilot machines like the Zombot Battlecruiser 5000 which can travel to different galaxys

low godly resurrection and resistance to bfr and immortality type 5
low godly resurrection(I kinda forgot this)- the plants heroes can respawn from having their body's fully destroyed and erased by Wizard zombie in bfn which even stops them from reviving and Cosmic brainzs black holes which once he punchs the plants inside of them it banish them leaving the plants unrevivable



who scales towards this
well to the massively hypersonic+ to ftl and even mftl+ stuff?
well all the bosses and playable characters in the shooters scale towards these speeds due to being able to keep up with the pvz heroes characters and even surprise as well as zomboss who should be scalable to his zombies which do the same as well

 

[StarShooter80]

PLANTS VS ZOMBIES 2 SPEED BUFFS
before I start this passage I want to make it clear that that the Chinese games are canon and take place during pvz 2 as in the pvz concept art book which is told from the zombies point of view as in it the zombies recall the events of pvz Chinese similar to how they recall all the other game events like pvz 1 -2 and plants vs zombies adventures making them usable for scaling
now with this point out of the way let me start with the speed feats from them

Adventures is already accepted as canon. There's also multiple versions of the chinese games by different companies like Talkweb, Visionstar, Gamecomb and more. Great Wall Edition is canon though, making an appearance in the international PvZ1 as a cameo. But again just because Great Wall is canon that doesn't make other versions canon as well.

You could make an argument for Endless Edition, since it's not ran by a different company like Great Wall, being fully developed by Popcap.

but without this the plants should scale towards all stars 12.17 mach feat as pvz 2 takes place during pvz heroes and gw1 with pvz 2 even having a crossover with pvz heroes where they actually show up in game
with the plants being able to react to his charge attack and even dodge it before he touches them

PvZH, PvZ2, and the shooter games are all already canon. The All-Star calc was used for the profiles before but was removed for not even having its math accepted, and the issues of the calc evident like how joules were somehow converted to newtons lol.

as well as in pvz Journey To The West sun wukong peashooter(yes this exist) has speed feat where he travels across a mountain distance in seconds with him also tanking a mountain explosion and shaking heaven itself(odd)
ut their is also a ftl+ cal for jester zombie here ( I haven't seen this get bought up any where or used so I thought I give it some attention) which u can argue this one as a outliner but with the comics and later games this is consistent.

Wukong stuff is hilarious but it does need proper calcs for both feats. Can't image it scaling to anyone else outside of those games.

Jester calc looks fine, but it needs to be verified by a mod. I don't think any plant in PvZ2 should upscale from this, since the Jester is just too braindead to actually dodge attacks, and will only reflect attacks he's actually capable of reflecting (i.e, attacks not too big, explosions, or aren't energy based for example). I'm not sure if you could really scale anyone to this.

EDIT: Even though he's brain dead he still has to capacity to register and react to attacks anyways, so any plant that can tag him (Pea Pod's plant food for example) or blitz him (Potato Mine for example) without the use of non-physical attacks should scale to him.

in the gw vol 3 comics the Nate Patrice and plants was able to dodge electricity and lasers withe super brainz reacting to green shadow lasers and the plant heroes dodging the z mech lasers with the future zombies dodging lasers in the pvz time apocalypse or super brainz also dodging citron lasers while dancing and citron dodging the imp mech lasers as well this is even more consistent with huge - gigantacus being able to pilot zomboss rocket to meteor z and the bfn plants and zombies being able to dodge lasers from zomboss Satellite
with zombies in pvz heroes being able to react and block attacks from sonic bloom ( he attacks faster then sound) to laser bean and laser cattail who shoots lasers and Magnifying Grass attacks which are radiation waves making them sol and Plantern attacks which are light as well as power flower or attacks from High-Voltage Currant electric blueberry Meteor Strike and lightning reed who attacks are lightning and electricity with plants heroes being to react to and block Electrobolt Turquoise Skull Zombie lasers hover-goats lasers and engineers drone lasers making massively hypersonic+ and relativistic+ to ftl extremely consistent as there are 20 different feats outside of power chomper statement that get to massively hypersonic+ or plain out gets higher into the relativistic and ftl ranges quite easily but there is some higher stuff I would like to get into like the mftl to mftl+ part which is more so debatable so I thought it be better to put it as a possible thing due to how debatable it is.

Power Flower link broken. The only lasers that are justified to be SoL is Citron, Plantern, Hovergoat, Turquoise Skull Zombie, and Magnifying Grass, the others are just "lasers" with no further justification. The Power Chomper statement is flawed since "near lightning speed" is just a hyperbolic phrase. Gigantacus doesn't seem to be piloting the rocket at all.

All these feats also need proper calculations for them, mainly Super Brainz dodging Citron's lasers, and the heroes activating their shields to these SoL attacks in-game.

Also not all electricity attacks are MHS+, it's only if they're compared to lightning. Like at best regular electricity is around hypersonic or smth.

yea this will be the most debatable part of this thread but starting it off Mr,Stubbin's has speed feat where he travels first travels to a whole other solar system then back to earth before having a ocean adventure then completed a whole Wrestling match then he goes on to win a karaoke championship all in one night before the sun came up with this not having a calculation for it.
their is also being this cal for Beta-Carrotina by ednaxel which got dismiss as beta Carrotina and her other plants use a portal to get to earth before meteor z could and this argument falls As the the only arguments against the latter is that they used a portal to travel to earth due to meteor z getting to it faster then they could which can be disproven by the fact it clearly said they got traveled to our solar system and flying there
with the old cutscene showing them flying down to earth not using the portels supporting the fact that they were trying to get to earth to warn the plant heroes before the space zombies got to earth on meteor z.
with there also being a feat by cosmic brainz's where he travels from where we seen him in space from the telescope to earth in seconds this is debatable as depending on ur view of it the feat can be mftl+ to 256 mach
lastly zombies can pilot machines like the Zombot Battlecruiser 5000 which can travel to different galaxys

Stubbin feat looks good for flight speed, don't think anyone else scales to that. Beta-Carrotina's old cutscene is just straight up retconned. Cozmic Brainz feat is just a lie, he actually just tricked the player revealing he was infront of him the entire time lol. Scaling Zomboss to the Zombot Battlecruiser 5000's speed seems fine, and if should scale to the combat speed of other characters.

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

Adventures is already accepted as canon. There's also multiple versions of the chinese games by different companies like Talkweb, Visionstar, Gamecomb and more. Great Wall Edition is canon though, making an appearance in the international PvZ1 as a cameo. But again just because Great Wall is canon that doesn't make other versions canon as well.

You could make an argument for Endless Edition, since it's not ran by a different company like Great Wall, being fully developed by Popcap.

PvZH, PvZ2, and the shooter games are all already canon. The All-Star calc was used for the profiles before but was removed for not even having its math accepted, and the issues of the calc evident like how joules were somehow converted to newtons lol.

Wukong stuff is hilarious but it does need proper calcs for both feats. Can't image it scaling to anyone else outside of those games.

Jester calc looks fine, but it needs to be verified by a mod. I don't think any plant in PvZ2 should upscale from this, since the Jester is just too braindead to actually dodge attacks, and will only reflect attacks he's actually capable of reflecting (i.e, attacks not too big, explosions, or aren't energy based for example). I'm not sure if you could really scale anyone to this.

EDIT: Even though he's brain dead he still has to capacity to register and react to attacks anyways, so any plant that can tag him (Pea Pod's plant food for example) or blitz him (Potato Mine for example) without the use of non-physical attacks should scale to him.

Power Flower link broken. The only lasers that are justified to be SoL is Citron, Plantern, Hovergoat, Turquoise Skull Zombie, and Magnifying Grass, the others are just "lasers" with no further justification. The Power Chomper statement is flawed since "near lightning speed" is just a hyperbolic phrase. Gigantacus doesn't seem to be piloting the rocket at all.

All these feats also need proper calculations for them, mainly Super Brainz dodging Citron's lasers, and the heroes activating their shields to these SoL attacks in-game.

Also not all electricity attacks are MHS+, it's only if they're compared to lightning. Like at best regular electricity is around hypersonic or smth.

Stubbin feat looks good for flight speed, don't think anyone else scales to that. Beta-Carrotina's old cutscene is just straight up retconned. Cozmic Brainz feat is just a lie, he actually just tricked the player revealing he was infront of him the entire time lol. Scaling Zomboss to the Zombot Battlecruiser 5000's speed seems fine, and if should scale to the combat speed of other characters.

I was using pvz 2 Chinese version for these feats sense the zombies was referring to this version and the only other version I used was pvz journey to the west but even zombies from journey to the west and great wall edition was shown in the concept art book where the zombies talk about past events that happened making them canon and the gargantuar is stated in great wall edition to be able to destory/wipe mountains but going past this it was to show that pvz 2 and the events of heroes and GW take place at the same time so they should scale to his charging speed but I didnt know the cal got removed and also zomboss should scale to the journey to the west stuff as at the end of the trailer he just easily crushed wukong peashooter while the plant was moving around as well as his zombot just tanking the attacks with other plants and zombies surviving his attacks

here for the FLOWER POWER link but going past this hovergoat laser is made from future and zomboss technology making so his machines like the lighthouse satelle or other future plants lasers consisently sol but the lasers also follow vsbw standards of being lasers as they move in one line don't blowup and only burn things and don't have any force behind them with other lasers like them being sol and laser bean lasers can keep up with to plain out move faster then margnifying grass radiation waves and he was the pilot for the mission of meteor z but at the same time u can argue against it as zomboss doesn't even trust his zombies to do the simplest of shit

electricity rather moves at 50% to 99% of the speed of light from here to there

zomboss and multiple other characters can react to his attacks travel speed and flight speed and while yes beta Carrotina feat got reconned I am more so using it to show they could has traveled to earth but needed to use the portal to beat the zombies there as meteor z was closer and moving faster then them and i am more so referring to cosmic brainz's flying around in space before he came to earth(when he was moving so fast he was on fire) which is consistent as we needed to use the telescope to find him in the first place

 

[StarShooter80]

I was using pvz 2 Chinese version for these feats sense the zombies was referring to this version and the only other version I used was pvz journey to the west but even zombies from journey to the west and great wall edition was shown in the concept art book where the zombies talk about past events that happened making them canon and the gargantuar is stated in great wall edition to be able to destory/wipe mountains but going past this it was to show that pvz 2 and the events of heroes and GW take place at the same time so they should scale to his charging speed but I didnt know the cal got removed and also zomboss should scale to the journey to the west stuff as at the end of the trailer he just easily crushed wukong peashooter while the plant was moving around as well as his zombot just tanking the attacks with other plants and zombies surviving his attacks

The zombies don't seem to be referring to PvZ2 at all. And again this is just a book with concept art in it, the 4th wall breaks mean nothing. Why bring up the Gargantuar point at all?

here for the FLOWER POWER link

Looks good

but going past this hovergoat laser is made from future and zomboss technology making so his machines like the lighthouse satelle or other future plants lasers consisently sol but the lasers also follow vsbw standards of being lasers as they move in one line don't blowup and only burn things and don't have any force behind them with other lasers like them being sol and laser bean lasers can keep up with to plain out move faster then margnifying grass radiation waves

Hover-Goat's statement is just "a beam of light from the future" and is only for just a specific attack and not his primary weapon. There's no reason to believe all weapons that uses lasers, let alone all lasers in general from the future are SoL. The lasers "moving in line and not blowing up" is not supporting evidence, just evidence against it not being a laser. Laser Beam's laser being faster than Magnifying Glass' attacks would just make it FTL lol (or higher if you calc the difference, which should be great)

he was the pilot for the mission of meteor z but at the same time u can argue against it as zomboss doesn't even trust his zombies to do the simplest of shit

He didn't pilot anything? He's not shown or stated to

electricity rather moves at 50% to 99% of the speed of light from here to there

For electricity feats we use this instead

and while yes beta Carrotina feat got reconned I am more so using it to show they could has traveled to earth but needed to use the portal to beat the zombies there as meteor z was closer and moving faster then them

Then that's a big "If" assumption, not based off a feat, statement or anything but that there's the possibility it could've happened, which is weak evidence.

i am more so referring to cosmic brainz's flying around in space before he came to earth(when he was moving so fast he was on fire) which is consistent as we needed to use the telescope to find him in the first place

That's fine

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

The zombies don't seem to be referring to PvZ2 at all. And again this is just a book with concept art in it, the 4th wall breaks mean nothing. Why bring up the Gargantuar point at all?

Looks good

Hover-Goat's statement is just "a beam of light from the future" and is only for just a specific attack and not his primary weapon. There's no reason to believe all weapons that uses lasers, let alone all lasers in general from the future are SoL. The lasers "moving in line and not blowing up" is not supporting evidence, just evidence against it not being a laser. Laser Beam's laser being faster than Magnifying Glass' attacks would just make it FTL lol (or higher if you calc the difference, which should be great)

He didn't pilot anything? He's not shown or stated to

For electricity feats we use this instead

Then that's a big "If" assumption, not based off a feat, statement or anything but that there's the possibility it could've happened, which is weak evidence.

That's fine

Multiple concept characters from it are in universe characters that just didn't make the cut Like here and Here with tthre being multiple other examples that I could bring up if u want

This is why I said u can argue against it and it's fine if u don't wanna use it as I don't trust it either

I didn't know this existed so thanks for the help also power chomper statement isn't technically hyperbolic as it just states he moves a little slower then it and is consistent with the other scans

I am just bringing it up as more supporting evidence that they needed to beat the zombies to earth as meteor z was closer to earth then them and without this it's said in the same scan they traveled there though flight speed and didn't use any Portals "Flys into action"

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

The zombies don't seem to be referring to PvZ2 at all. And again this is just a book with concept art in it, the 4th wall breaks mean nothing. Why bring up the Gargantuar point at all?

Looks good

Hover-Goat's statement is just "a beam of light from the future" and is only for just a specific attack and not his primary weapon. There's no reason to believe all weapons that uses lasers, let alone all lasers in general from the future are SoL. The lasers "moving in line and not blowing up" is not supporting evidence, just evidence against it not being a laser. Laser Beam's laser being faster than Magnifying Glass' attacks would just make it FTL lol (or higher if you calc the difference, which should be great)

He didn't pilot anything? He's not shown or stated to

For electricity feats we use this instead

Then that's a big "If" assumption, not based off a feat, statement or anything but that there's the possibility it could've happened, which is weak evidence.

That's fine

Multiple concept characters from it are in universe characters that just didn't make the cut Like here and

The zombies don't seem to be referring to PvZ2 at all. And again this is just a book with concept art in it, the 4th wall breaks mean nothing. Why bring up the Gargantuar point at all?

Looks good

Hover-Goat's statement is just "a beam of light from the future" and is only for just a specific attack and not his primary weapon. There's no reason to believe all weapons that uses lasers, let alone all lasers in general from the future are SoL. The lasers "moving in line and not blowing up" is not supporting evidence, just evidence against it not being a laser. Laser Beam's laser being faster than Magnifying Glass' attacks would just make it FTL lol (or higher if you calc the difference, which should be great)

He didn't pilot anything? He's not shown or stated to

For electricity feats we use this instead

Then that's a big "If" assumption, not based off a feat, statement or anything but that there's the possibility it could've happened, which is weak evidence.

That's fine

Also the lasers do behaves in a reasonably realistic way, such as reflecting off non-magical mirrors or refracting and diffusing through liquids and materials. And

The zombies don't seem to be referring to PvZ2 at all. And again this is just a book with concept art in it, the 4th wall breaks mean nothing. Why bring up the Gargantuar point at all?

Looks good

Hover-Goat's statement is just "a beam of light from the future" and is only for just a specific attack and not his primary weapon. There's no reason to believe all weapons that uses lasers, let alone all lasers in general from the future are SoL. The lasers "moving in line and not blowing up" is not supporting evidence, just evidence against it not being a laser. Laser Beam's laser being faster than Magnifying Glass' attacks would just make it FTL lol (or higher if you calc the difference, which should be great)

He didn't pilot anything? He's not shown or stated to

For electricity feats we use this instead

Then that's a big "If" assumption, not based off a feat, statement or anything but that there's the possibility it could've happened, which is weak evidence.

That's fine

Also The lasers do behaves in a reasonably realistic way, such as reflecting off non-magical mirrors or refracting and diffusing through liquids and materials.
With most lasers like citrons or hovergoats or even magnifying grass(his attacks are called lasers at times) being sol making this consistent with their being no anti feats against it

 

[StarShooter80]

I am just bringing it up as more supporting evidence that they needed to beat the zombies to earth as meteor z was closer to earth then them and without this it's said in the same scan they traveled there though flight speed and didn't use any Portals "Flys into action"

You're just repeating your same points, the old comic isn't an "alternative possibility" or anything, it's retconned and that's it.

Also the lasers do behaves in a reasonably realistic way, such as reflecting off non-magical mirrors or refracting and diffusing through liquids and materials. And

Also The lasers do behaves in a reasonably realistic way, such as reflecting off non-magical mirrors or refracting and diffusing through liquids and materials.
With most lasers like citrons or hovergoats or even magnifying grass(his attacks are called lasers at times) being sol making this consistent with their being no anti feats against it

It seems like you're copy pasting your text, you using mobile? Cause this site runs terribly on that.

Also The lasers do behaves in a reasonably realistic way, such as reflecting off non-magical mirrors or refracting and diffusing through liquids and materials.

Can you provide evidence for that for any of the other lasers?

With most lasers like citrons or hovergoats or even magnifying grass(his attacks are called lasers at times) being sol making this consistent with their being no anti feats against it

Just because other laser attacks are proven to be moving at the speed of light, that doesn't make all lasers SoL

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

You're just repeating your same points, the old comic isn't an "alternative possibility" or anything, it's retconned and that's it.

It seems like you're copy pasting your text, you using mobile? Cause this site runs terribly on that.

Can you provide evidence for that for any of the other lasers?

Just because other laser attacks are proven to be moving at the speed of light, that doesn't make all lasers SoL

(Yea I am doing this on mobile which is really annoying)

I understand it was reconnect and that it isn't a alt possibility but at the same time if we ignore it the original scan for the space plants speed cal by u states they got their to our solar system by flying there not using any Portals or anything with the old version showing us they couldn't beat the space zombies in there race to earth and has to used to use the Portal so they could get both enough time to warn the plants and stop the zombies from crashing the meteor into earth(in which they failed)

Like for example green shadows the lighthouse Satellite and Space cadet lasers diffuses or when ever it hits any material refracting or simply just burns what it hits

I can both agree and disagree with this as lasers being sol are consistent with pvz future technology as future technology like both hovergoat and citron(characters from the future who uses future technology) lasers are light/sol with other characters technology being from the future too which also uses lasers with citron comparing his laser to the z mechs in the comic scan I shown of him dodging the z mechs laser making this rather consistent that future technology laser's are in fact sol
(but if u disagree u can understand)

 

[StarShooter80]

I understand it was reconnect and that it isn't a alt possibility but at the same time if we ignore it the original scan for the space plants speed cal by u states they got their to our solar system by flying there not using any Portals or anything with the old version showing us they couldn't beat the space zombies in there race to earth and has to used to use the Portal so they could get both enough time to warn the plants and stop the zombies from crashing the meteor into earth(in which they failed)

I lacked context for when I made the calc. It's weird how you say it still works without the old scan, and then you bring up the old version anyways.

Like for example green shadows the lighthouse Satellite and Space cadet lasers diffuses or when ever it hits any material refracting or simply just burns what it hits

Do you have scans for either of these?

I can both agree and disagree with this as lasers being sol are consistent with pvz future technology as future technology like both hovergoat and citron(characters from the future who uses future technology) lasers are light/sol with other characters technology being from the future too which also uses lasers with citron comparing his laser to the z mechs in the comic scan I shown of him dodging the z mechs laser making this rather consistent that future technology laser's are in fact sol
(but if u disagree u can understand)

Them being future characters who use lasers made of light is just not a good enough justification for all future related lasers being SoL. That's also not a regular Z-Mech Citron was fighting, and Citron didn't even compare their lasers, all he said was "oh you can shoot laser? I can too with these sun powered ones"

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

I lacked context for when I made the calc. It's weird how you say it still works without the old scan, and then you bring up the old version anyways.

Do you have scans for either of these?

Them being future characters who use lasers made of light is just not a good enough justification for all future related lasers being SoL. That's also not a regular Z-Mech Citron was fighting, and Citron didn't even compare their lasers, all he said was "oh you can shoot laser? I can too with these sun powered ones"

I used the old scan to show they only used the Portal to get to earth and warned the plants before the space zombies crashed into the planet as the zombies on meteor z was faster and closer once they got near earth (going based off of the huge gigantacus origin story)

In the z mech missions for the plant heroes her lasers diffuses when it hits zomboss and in the super brainzs scan it reflects off the mirror and Space cadet lasers always diffuses whenever it hits something I can sent a link if u want

He pretty much said u have lasers well I have lasers 2 and the z mech in heroes uses lasers (the imp just prefers to blow shit up with his missiles) but I understand not wanting to use this so I think it best to left this here

 

[StarShooter80]

I used the old scan to show they only used the Portal to get to earth and warned the plants before the space zombies crashed into the planet as the zombies on meteor z was faster and closer once they got near earth (going based off of the huge gigantacus origin story)

Again you’re just reiterating your old points. Actually have proof of them being able to make this distance via pure speed without the use retconned information, or just don’t argue it.

Lets just agree to disagree

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

Again you’re just reiterating your old points. Actually have proof of them being able to make this distance via pure speed without the use retconned information, or just don’t argue it.

Lets just agree to disagree

again without any of the old information if u look into the original feat itself they its stated as I quote "the interplanetary protector beta-carrotina flies into action with her plan-ary guard" meaning via pure speed they traveled to there without any portals or etc (its in the original scan itself just pls read that part again)

 

[StarShooter80]

again without any of the old information if u look into the original feat itself they its stated as I quote "the interplanetary protector beta-carrotina flies into action with her plan-ary guard" meaning via pure speed they traveled to there without any portals or etc (its in the original scan itself just pls read that part again)

Except, very evidently, they use portals in the official pages. The statement is just them arriving at the scene, only afterwards do they think it's better to inform the plants on Earth.

Can you stop trying to push this retconned scan, there is literally no value to be had with it

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

Except, very evidently, they use portals in the official pages. The statement is just them arriving at the scene, only afterwards do they think it's better to inform the plants on Earth.

Can you stop trying to push this retconned scan, there is literally no value to be had with it

I am not pushing it as i am using the same official canon in game scan that the feat comes from(its literally stated they traveled there via flight speed not using any haxs or anything )so its made clear from ur own words too they only used portal to get to where the plant heroes were at when they were already in our solar system near earth due them not having enough time to both warn them while also asking for them for help against the space zombies and them flying from a different solar system to ours is still a feat they done note I am not using the retconned scan but rather the official backstory for huge-giganticus

 

[StarShooter80]

I am not pushing it as i am using the same official canon in game scan that the feat comes from(its literally stated they traveled there via flight speed not using any haxs or anything )so its made clear from ur own words too they only used portal to get to where the plant heroes were at when they were already in our solar system near earth due them not having enough time to both warn them while also asking for them for help against the space zombies and them flying from a different solar system to ours is still a feat they done note I am not using the retconned scan but rather the official backstory for huge-giganticus

You're saying it's both via speed in the same instance they use portals, do you not see how that doesn't work? I already addressed that the statement is not towards them going to the plants, that comes afterwards. Stop repeating your same points

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

You're saying it's both via speed in the same instance they use portals, do you not see how that doesn't work? I already addressed that the statement is not towards them going to the plants, that comes afterwards. Stop repeating your same points

I only said in the one when they needed to beat the zombies to earth did they only use a portal not when they were flying though space to stop the zombies but besides thsy I forgot to add it the low godly resurrection which applies to the plant heroes respawning (which I just added it in right now if u wanna see)

 

[StarShooter80]

I only said in the one when they needed to beat the zombies to earth did they only use a portal not when they were flying though space to stop the zombies but besides thsy I forgot to add it the low godly resurrection which applies to the plant heroes respawning (which I just added it in right now if u wanna see)

Waffling

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

Waffling

typing this on mobile is annoying

 

[OrangeFR]

Neutral on Chinese stuff, MFTL seems dubious as of now though. Mr. Stubbins’ feat is likely an imaginary sequence and if it isn’t no one scales. IDK how I feel about the other feats as of now. Relativistic/FTL seems good though, I even found another PVZ heroes example of light timing. (Scroll to the bottom of the page and look in the fourth image).

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

MFTL seems dubious as of now though. Mr. Stubbins’ feat is likely an imaginary sequence and if it isn’t no one scales. IDK how I feel about the other feats as of now.

It was a adventure Mr.stubbins has at night while his owner was alive(it's from the 3th vol of a bully for u and was a extra story that comes after the comic ends)
And multiple characters can react to him(with zomboss unironically keeping up with the animal)

Relativistic/FTL seems good though, I even found another PVZ heroes example of light timing. (Scroll to the bottom of the page and look in the fourth image).

Idk if rose magic attacks count as light also laser bean lasers in pvz 2 move faster then magnifying grass radiation waves which I think we will probably need a cal for
(I should probably put this in the thread)

 

[OrangeFR]

It was a adventure Mr.stubbins has at night while his owner was alive(it's from the 3th vol of a bully for u and was a extra story that comes after the comic ends)
And multiple characters can react to him(with zomboss unironically keeping up with the animal)

Idk if rose magic attacks count as light also laser bean lasers in pvz 2 move faster then magnifying grass radiation waves which I think we will probably need a cal for
(I should probably put this in the thread)

I read that comic and I think it is probably an outlier, but if more evidence is found then it should be good. Rose’s magic is obviously light there because Super Brainz literally uses a mirror to reflect it, which is an important criteria used to figure out if a beam is light or not.

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

I read that comic and I think it is probably an outlier, but if more evidence is found then it should be good. Rose’s magic is obviously light there because Super Brainz literally uses a mirror to reflect it, which is an important criteria used to figure out if a beam is light or not.

Fair and it's kinda consistent with the 3 other mftl+ feats (there's a another one for huge- gigantacus but it's kinda debatable to use as it concerns his size )

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

I read that comic and I think it is probably an outlier, but if more evidence is found then it should be good. Rose’s magic is obviously light there because Super Brainz literally uses a mirror to reflect it, which is an important criteria used to figure out if a beam is light or not.

I also just added in the low godly resurrection part sense I forgot to add it in

 

[OrangeFR]

I also just added in the low godly resurrection part sense I forgot to add it in

It seems good, but the plants should also probably get a resistance to BFR due to being able to come back from Cosmic Brainz’s black holes.

 

[FinePoint]

None of these calculations are actually accepted.

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

None of these calculations are actually accepted.

That's why I bought them so they could get reviewed(which outside of those Cals what do u think about the rest of thread)

 

[FinePoint]

That's why I bought them so they could get reviewed(which outside of those Cals what do u think about the rest of thread)

Calculations can only be approved by Calculation Group members on the relevant blogs.

This should be done before making the CRT, which is the step where staff with evaluation rights (such as myself) decide if/how the calculations should affect the verse.

So, I can't really comment until you message some Calculation Group members and get them to approve the blogs.

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

Calculations can only be approved by Calculation Group members on the relevant blogs.

This should be done before making the CRT, which is the step where staff with evaluation rights (such as myself) decide if/how the calculations should affect the verse.

So, I can't really comment until you message some Calculation Group members and get them to approve the blogs.

Alright (I didn't know that)

 

[FinePoint]

Alright (I didn't know that)

It's alright. This can stay open until you do so.

 

[FinePoint]

Oh, and you can find information on how to do that properly on this page.

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

Oh, and you can find information on how to do that properly on this page.

I have an other thread which is an CRT for the plants ann zombies hax's intellegent and resistence's which needs to be Evaluated

 

[FinePoint]

I have an other thread which is an CRT for the plants ann zombies hax's intellegent and resistence's which needs to be Evaluated

You should ask on my wall. It's where I keep track of revisions pending my input.

 

[Plants_vs_zombies_fan101]

You should ask on my wall. It's where I keep track of revisions pending my input.

alright