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Baseline 9-A, and Apollo's feat would be way higher, is 90 times above Wright's feat
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Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Downgrade
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Way bigger jumps are present here. outliers argument is overused
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Are you gonna come and tell me outliers don't exist? Literally show me one of these "Jumps", but it also has to apply to someone who is literally just a normal person with no other feats anywhere close to this.
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Mega Man is Large Planet+ with his next best feat being small planet. A pretty big jump
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Pretty big ******' difference between going from "planet buster" to "bigger planet buster" and going from "literally a normal dude" to "can survive a rocket launcher to the chin"
Differences matter less in higher tiers, a 3x SoL feat can be a supporting feat for a 300x SoL feat but a 30 m/s (Superhuman) feat cannot be a supporting feat for a 3000 m/s (Hypersonic) feat
Differences matter less in higher tiers, a 3x SoL feat can be a supporting feat for a 300x SoL feat but a 30 m/s (Superhuman) feat cannot be a supporting feat for a 3000 m/s (Hypersonic) feat
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Perhaps I should make Nahyuta Sahdmadhi's feat recalc
The knife moves at 12 m/s. Assuming the knife was 5 cm away from the chest and was pointing right in the middle. The chest is 46.36 cm
Extra distance the knife can move: sqrt(46.36^2-0.5*46.36^2) = 32.78 cm. Total distance the knife moved: 32.78+5 = 37.78 cm
The angle Sahdmadhi made should be acos(0.5) = 1.047 radians. So the distance: 46.36*1.047 = 48.54 cm
Speed: 12*(48.54/37.78) = 15.4 m/s (Superhuman)
The knife moves at 12 m/s. Assuming the knife was 5 cm away from the chest and was pointing right in the middle. The chest is 46.36 cm
Extra distance the knife can move: sqrt(46.36^2-0.5*46.36^2) = 32.78 cm. Total distance the knife moved: 32.78+5 = 37.78 cm
The angle Sahdmadhi made should be acos(0.5) = 1.047 radians. So the distance: 46.36*1.047 = 48.54 cm
Speed: 12*(48.54/37.78) = 15.4 m/s (Superhuman)
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I doubt a normal dude can survive a tiger charge or a car crash sending him twenty feet
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Yeah, and Apollo didn't do either of those, that's Wright. Tiger feat was also supposed to be removed but eh
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Not really. Since Wright nearly lost consciousness, the tiger clearly did hit him
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I mean, a tackle from a tiger isn't necessarily always 9-B. Honestly when the downgrades come I'm not even 100% sure they'll stay 9-B and not 9-C+ at all, but either way an animal doesn't use 100% of their strength when hunting smaller prey
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Either way, Wright 9-B durability isn't what I'm putting into question here- but Apollo doesn't have that durability anyway.
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Ace Attorney isn't the type of verse where superhuman feats are off the wall or crazy, Phoenix and other protagonists have decent durability feats so 9-B is believable, and even those feats at least injure Phoenix, so he can't be too much higher than that. And 99% of the verse gets killed by simple stabs or gunshots. Unlike most Shounen verse, RPG verses, or Superhero verses where there are multiple superhuman feats both offensively and defensively combined with the existence of Ki control or magical forces, Ace Attorney is just detective story where most characters tend to be down to earth in terms of physical prowess. So getting killed by conventional weapons is super consistent and has no reason to be PIS unlike a lot of those aforementioned styles. So as for the massive Tier 8 durability feat; either it's an outlier or Apollo is a stone wall who doesn't scale to anybody.
As for the movie, I have seen the movie and I personally really liked the movie and it's one of the best video game to film adaptations I've seen. But the profile I have had issues with since its creation. Miles never dodged the bullet; Yani Yogi purposely missed and had no intention of killing him. And not sure about Misty Fey's example. I do remember seeing the clip when the profile was first created; it's fired and we see it fly in these awkward loops as if it's being controlled, but I'm not sure how that's any kind of reaction feat. The wrench feat, I'm not sure if breaking a wrench is street level or to what extent he breaks it.
Given the messes in the stats and lack of on hand scans to give, I'm okay if we delete it for the time being.
As for the movie, I have seen the movie and I personally really liked the movie and it's one of the best video game to film adaptations I've seen. But the profile I have had issues with since its creation. Miles never dodged the bullet; Yani Yogi purposely missed and had no intention of killing him. And not sure about Misty Fey's example. I do remember seeing the clip when the profile was first created; it's fired and we see it fly in these awkward loops as if it's being controlled, but I'm not sure how that's any kind of reaction feat. The wrench feat, I'm not sure if breaking a wrench is street level or to what extent he breaks it.
Given the messes in the stats and lack of on hand scans to give, I'm okay if we delete it for the time being.
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That seems like a good idea.
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I personally don't mind, and trust your sense of judgement.
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I mean, it ain't that hard to get in the top 3
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Does Misty have some sort of telekinesis in the movie? If that's the case then idk if we should scale Wright to her. Not sure about the wrench tho but if it's a 9-C/10-A feat I also don't see a reason to scale Wright to Larry- maybe Larry's just ripped as hell in this movie
Yeah.
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Miles Edgeworth is the Chief Prosecutor of the prosecutor's office in Los Angeles. During his first years as a prosecutor, he had a perfect win record in trials to get a guilty verdict for the defendant, however said record was crushed upon his defeat by his childhood friend Phoenix Wright. Said...
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Why does Edgeworth have objections !, Take that !, Hold on! and EUREKA! as remarkable abilities?
Miles Edgeworth
Miles Edgeworth is the Chief Prosecutor of the prosecutor's office in Los Angeles. During his first years as a prosecutor, he had a perfect win record in trials to get a guilty verdict for the defendant, however said record was crushed upon his defeat by his childhood friend Phoenix Wright. Said...
For no reason, it should be deleted and changed on something more useful like his arsenal from investigations and other ace attorney games (Fingerprints powder for instance).
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Maybe, but he only used it once when he was hobo.
Maybe with preparation he can still use it, cause he still have it.
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Bump
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Mostly last discussion was about does Apollo scales to Wright's durability. Answer is simply no.
The other stuff is:
The other stuff is:
- Change Edgeworth's notable attacks and techniques to his arsenal which would be helpful in detective-like battles
- Some of us may need to re-watch a Japanese ace attorney movie to later revise wright of its verse
- At least I should finally play fully investigations 1-2 and dual destinies with spirit of justice. Since it's important part of the series, and we don't touching some characters of it games for now, unless we would have info on them (I would try to complete as soon as possible, not today but maybe this summer).
- And at last it's something I probably would do soon and wasn't done previously is addition of grate ace attorney series to the verse. That's something I would also do later and on my own initiative.
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Weren't we gonna downgrade the AP of some of the characters like Franziska?
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I thought I downgraded her previously..?
Oh wait she's 9-B again @Lonkitt upgraded her for some reason.
@Armorchompy to point out, just look at her page history I downgraded her months ago.
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His durability is still wall level so for now he lefts untouched. @Lonkitt may try to justify scaling of Franzizka being 9-B via harming Phoenix.
Until something happened in Dual destinies and/or Spirit of Justice Phoenix, Apollo and the one who doesn't have a profile at the moment aka Athena and others are left untouched for some time I guess. The "Change into 9-B without our notice" affected only Franzizka so Franzizka would be discussed.
Before I will creating the great ace attorney pages I should also note that no one in the great ace attorney scales to the ace attorney cast and vice versa since the same reason we don't scale original danganronpa to V3 but instead of "different universe" we have "different time". Great ace attorney actions took basically century(ies) before the original Ace attorney happened. So both in intelligence and in physicals the grate ace attorney characters would have own feats.
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Pretty much yes.
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i made a minor change to franz' page to explain why i don't think she scales to wright, does it look fine?
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Seems pretty fine.
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