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I don't think so, that must just be infinite evolution
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Possible "infinite" endurance for saitama
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Willpower does not have infinite stamina by default.
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It's insane willpower, not infinite stamina. Later on in the story, a post-training Saitama frantically runs around the city looking for bad guys for an entire day, and he was exhausted afterwards. He definitely gets tired, but he has the sheer will to push through it.
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This isn't Infinite stamina. Disagree FRA
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Didn't Genos when finding out about Saitama's routine called it average? so like everyone above that version of Cyborg has infinite stamina now? XD
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Even Diederick Kastner, who was literally in combat and traveling for over a century does not have infinite stamina, even from his dummy thicc Willpower which let him go through 1-A mindfuck bullshit.
Saitama has literally none of those things going for him, you need very clear and explicit evidence with no anti-feats for infinite stamina.
Saitama has literally none of those things going for him, you need very clear and explicit evidence with no anti-feats for infinite stamina.
Nullflowerblush
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The entire argument is "Willpower equals stamina, and Saitama has limitless willpower; therefore, Saitama has limitless stamina". Nothing suggests he can exert himself indefinitely, though. Hell, nothing even suggests Saitama has limitless willpower either. This entire argument hinges on an unsubstantiated hypothetical.
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I agree with those who disagree, Saitama just has crazy superhuman stamina, but to be infinite he literally needs to never tire nor run off of energy, which isn't the case.
He can push through something that would be unbearable for any human? Yes, but that's not infinite anyway.
There are characters out there which much more impressive feats, like fighting non-stop for centuries or thousands of years, and still don't get infinite stamina if they eventually tire or aren't outright stated to never be able to tire.
He can push through something that would be unbearable for any human? Yes, but that's not infinite anyway.
There are characters out there which much more impressive feats, like fighting non-stop for centuries or thousands of years, and still don't get infinite stamina if they eventually tire or aren't outright stated to never be able to tire.
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Again, all I'm saying here is that saitama's willpower supersedes biological functions, so arguments about him tiring or running out of energy is redundant especially if its repeated 5x, and its not a matter of conventional stamina anymore because in the first place the majority of those 1.5 years of training has his stamina already in the negatives and exponentially decreasing with willpower the only thing sustaining him.
All I wanted to know is the EXTENT of saitama's willpower and how would we reliably estimate it when calculating the amount basically devolves into "how much saitama gives a ****" and so made this post because it sounded close enough to how "infinite stamina" works, but I'm open to reasons why its finite and even I agree. It sounds hypothetical because even Idk factors like old age, decomposition, the limit of saitama's power, etc and how it affects the outcome.
All I wanted to know is the EXTENT of saitama's willpower and how would we reliably estimate it when calculating the amount basically devolves into "how much saitama gives a ****" and so made this post because it sounded close enough to how "infinite stamina" works, but I'm open to reasons why its finite and even I agree. It sounds hypothetical because even Idk factors like old age, decomposition, the limit of saitama's power, etc and how it affects the outcome.
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There's just no way to quantify Saitama's willpower, and it still wouldn't grant him infinite stamina.
There's plenty of characters whose willpower allowed them to push through much worse than Saitama's training, and still aren't given infinite stamina.
There's plenty of characters whose willpower allowed them to push through much worse than Saitama's training, and still aren't given infinite stamina.
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Oof then
Care give an example by any chance. I'm curious as to whats the standard lmao
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We have Asura Akuma who fought non-stop for 500 years, Comics Thor has several feats of fighting and generally living for years without food or sleep, the aforementioned Archaon has similar feats, and there are many more out there.
To qualify for infinite stamina you need evidences of literally being unable to tire or run off of stamina, either because you are continously fueled by some source, magical means or else.
Stamina alone, and willpower on some common grounds, is difficult to quantify, as it encompasses the ability to be operative for long periods of time, to withstand pain, to resist without nourishment or sleep, to push thrugh harsh conditions, to have mental fortitude and so on.
Like, Saitama might exceed by far the time other characters can spend fighting and training, but might fall short to them when it comes to survive certain wounds or else.
It's really a case by case basis.
To qualify for infinite stamina you need evidences of literally being unable to tire or run off of stamina, either because you are continously fueled by some source, magical means or else.
Stamina alone, and willpower on some common grounds, is difficult to quantify, as it encompasses the ability to be operative for long periods of time, to withstand pain, to resist without nourishment or sleep, to push thrugh harsh conditions, to have mental fortitude and so on.
Like, Saitama might exceed by far the time other characters can spend fighting and training, but might fall short to them when it comes to survive certain wounds or else.
It's really a case by case basis.
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Everytime I search on google for the difference in vsbattles the only thing that shows up is STAMINA RREEEEEInfinite stamina and infinite endurance is quite different also btw...(talking about the thread title and op
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Ehhh.Infinite stamina and infinite endurance is quite different also btw...(talking about the thread title and op
The definition for "endurance", according to Wikipedia, is nearly identical to that of Vs Battles Wiki.
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Just slap the best willpower feat he has and that's about it, you've got yourself the "extent" of his willpower.
I disagree with the OP for reasons everyone and their mother has already mentioned.
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also three-halves? 
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So like willpower that supersedes biological functions and to power through death with an exponentially dying state, got it.
Still pretty vague lmao
DaMonkeMan
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Some of this stuff is just Self Sustenance. However, I do agree that this isn't exactly endurance, he just has strong willpower.
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I wanted to ask the same thing but wasn't versed enough to disagree :,)
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Self-sustenance also needs solid proof that the chatacter can go on forever without said sustenance, otherwise it's just endurance.
For example, Thor only has type 1.
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That's, like, the majority of Supernatural Willpower feats on this site. Grug?
DaMonkeMan
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Fair points.
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Seems more impressive to me ig coming from a relatively normal human with normal human psyiology and mortal needs like pre-training saitama who's apparently weak enough that he finds an average training regimene "hard"
