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Inconclusive for the reasons stated above.
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Rukia Kuchiki vs Saber (Last Vote needed)
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Weaknesses: Saber is bound by her honor as a knight, and she'd thus never rely on underhanded or more pragmatic tactics.
This is in characters fight right, I doubt Saber would go excaliblast even if her precog told her not to engage Rukia directly, her pride as knight won't allow her. Saber seems only will use her big attack if her enemy were using their own big attacks. (Against Broskandar, Medusa, and Gil). I've never seen her using excaliblast against someone who mainly rely on cqc.
This is in characters fight right, I doubt Saber would go excaliblast even if her precog told her not to engage Rukia directly, her pride as knight won't allow her. Saber seems only will use her big attack if her enemy were using their own big attacks. (Against Broskandar, Medusa, and Gil). I've never seen her using excaliblast against someone who mainly rely on cqc.
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Not true, she used it against iskande , Herc and more. As the opening attack no less.
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Yes, she used it against iskandar because the guy has a frigging chariot speeding right at her.
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And she could of moved out of the way.
There's also Herc, and more instances I can't recall.
Basically the only time she fights without it is when both her and her opponent agree to fight fair with no added hax. Like against not cu.
There's also Herc, and more instances I can't recall.
Basically the only time she fights without it is when both her and her opponent agree to fight fair with no added hax. Like against not cu.
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Move to where, jump to the cliff? That's counted as running away in her book. Why run when you can take them out?
I don't recall her using excaliblast right off the bat against Herc. See still keeps trying with cwc even against him. I don't see why she will resort excalibur beam against a small opponent like trulia while in character.
No, the only times she fought without it is when her opponent didn't have huge ass NP (Iskandar chariot, Medusa pegasus, Gil ea). Even she didn't used it against Cu's gae bolg which is hax NP.
I don't recall her using excaliblast right off the bat against Herc. See still keeps trying with cwc even against him. I don't see why she will resort excalibur beam against a small opponent like trulia while in character.
No, the only times she fought without it is when her opponent didn't have huge ass NP (Iskandar chariot, Medusa pegasus, Gil ea). Even she didn't used it against Cu's gae bolg which is hax NP.
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Well, every time she sees Gilgamesh she goes for the blast and gets countered by Enuma Elish. But she is the first one to use it, even when Gilgamesh doesn't have Ea by his side.
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She got Gae Bolged after like the first exchange of blows and it's the first fight of the war so she would't just reveal her identity. Against Diarmuid it was the same and then she got hit by HP reduction so she couldn't use it. When she could use it again she blasted Gilles and Iskandar chariot. Against Diarmuid they had already gone full chivalry so their rematch she handicapped herself. Lancelot gave her emotional trauma. Against Herc she had to fight him in CQC to lure him away from Shirou.
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Yes actually, that fall ain't harming her. Exactly, she has the means and used it right away.
I'm pretty sure she lured Herc away from the piss weak and new master Shirou then excaliblasted Herc as soon as she could. Also think it happened again later on.
Also gil. If she's willing to kill, and doesn't have a discussion with her opponent first to fight on equal footing, Excalibur.
I'm pretty sure she lured Herc away from the piss weak and new master Shirou then excaliblasted Herc as soon as she could. Also think it happened again later on.
Also gil. If she's willing to kill, and doesn't have a discussion with her opponent first to fight on equal footing, Excalibur.
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I re-watch the fight and still didn't see her use excaliblast right offf the bat. And she starts to use it when Gil was about to unleash Enuma Elish.
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@Ramessess I still don't see her using excaliblast against someone who starts with cqc. Stated in her profile that she won't rely on pragmatic tactic. And this is her in character, and excaliblast... is a pragmatic tactic in this fight.
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"The wind starts to twirl and becomes a raging gale to protect her. At the same time, the golden swrod appears.
Shirou: No, Saber...
...It can't be. Saber's going to use the Excalibur here...!? Gilgamesh stops." (...)
Gilgamesh: Then I shall use a weapon appropriate against it.
"He pulls an incongruous 'sword' from the gate behind him."
Saber is using Excalibur even when Gilgamesh didn't have Ea.
Shirou: No, Saber...
...It can't be. Saber's going to use the Excalibur here...!? Gilgamesh stops." (...)
Gilgamesh: Then I shall use a weapon appropriate against it.
"He pulls an incongruous 'sword' from the gate behind him."
Saber is using Excalibur even when Gilgamesh didn't have Ea.
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@Swagpack That seems like she is only revealing her sword, and not gonna use the beam attack which is the thing we are debating right now.
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@jman She only used the beam attack because charging right at a speeding chariot while trying with cqc is the stupidest idea ever.
In case you didn't notice it, I'm talking about her not using the beam attack right off the bat.
In case you didn't notice it, I'm talking about her not using the beam attack right off the bat.
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It is rather obvious what you're talking about.
Also revealong her sword? Yeah , to use excaliber, at that point im pretty syre everyone knew who she was, why take it off unless youre gonna use the thing that requires it to be off? Also shirou states shes getying ready to use it. Also herc.
Also revealong her sword? Yeah , to use excaliber, at that point im pretty syre everyone knew who she was, why take it off unless youre gonna use the thing that requires it to be off? Also shirou states shes getying ready to use it. Also herc.
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Again, I'm not talking about excalibur as in the sword. I'm talking about excalibur as in the beam attack.
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Couldn't invisible air just like, blow away all the air around Saber so there's no medium for the absolute zero to travel through to reach her?
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as I recall, invisivle air took form of winds, AZ works anything that touch rukia so it can still reaches her.
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Homu, im aware, everyone here kniws youre talking about excaliblast.
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And what make you so sure she will used it while in character, which I will point it out again, will not use her instant win attack against someone who doesn't use a big attack....Emphasize BIG.
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But who is Herc? The noble phantasmless, melee heavy warrior?
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Again, I didn't see her go excalibur beam attack against him, could you please provide me the link where she does that?
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It creates a vacuum around Saber when she uses it, so AZ can't reach her through the air.Homu Sweet Homu said:
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Yes, she used it....After tradding few blows with herc. Rukia however, one contact and you are ******.
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Why would Absolute Zero be pushed away with air?
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She used it the moment she was able to, why do ya think was luring him away from shirou? Fighting.and going all out would get him killed.
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AZ needs something to spread through... literally, you've been saying that's why Saber dies the moment excalibur hits Rukia, because the AZ travels through her sword.
AZ creates a vacuum around her, so the AoE component of Rukia's AZ is nullified as it has nothing to spread through.
AZ creates a vacuum around her, so the AoE component of Rukia's AZ is nullified as it has nothing to spread through.
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>aoe.
Is it not like an energy dome that engulfs the area? Going from that scan.
Is it not like an energy dome that engulfs the area? Going from that scan.
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And why do you think she will go against her character by unleashing beam attack before she resort cqc?
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Because think about it, she's actually used Excalibur more times than she used cqc. Also willing to kill, no prior chivalry agreement.
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And it spreads through the air.Monarch Laciel said:
If she's close enough to do that, then it's too late for her anyway.
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The fight is in character right? i'm talking to you Gar.
Edit: Gar, monarch said vacuum which mean there is no air at all at the moment.
Edit: Gar, monarch said vacuum which mean there is no air at all at the moment.
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@ I think you mean IA, not AZ. Still doesn't explain how Saber will take out Rukia without needing to slash her.
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Doesn't need to? Big laser beam?
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See wont use it in character...at least not until her opponent uses their own big attack.
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She'd actually used that in character more times than she hasn't in serious battles. Because she has.
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When?
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I'm just here to say "Inconclusive for reasons above" so you all can stop this madness.
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Nope, now we gotta wait a day.
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