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Steve fights Izuku Midoriya

ok nvm, Harming does 3 hearts at lvl 1 and 6 hearts at lvl 2. But not really sure what it would due against deku, btw it ignores dura so Deku being "above" dosn't really mean much.
 
Phoenks said:
ok nvm, Harming does 3 hearts at lvl 1 and 6 hearts at lvl 2. But not really sure what it would due against deku, btw it ignores dura so Deku being "above" dosn't really mean much.
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Fair enough so it's inapplicable due to not having any metric to measure it
 
Insert creative name here 12 said:
Yeah, how will Midoriya be able to beat Steve if Steve has a speed amp and throws a Blindness and Poison potion on him? Steve's final results are 8 potions so he should have even more potions to help him in battle like a Strength potion to amp his AP and strike Midoriya to death with a weapon.
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That's if he hits it and that's only in certain situations
Not really, since Steve has his armour and shields for defense and enough start range to amp his speed, strength and Regenerationn using potions to charge in on Midoriya and throw a Decay potion at him to kill him. Also, Steve has four arrows, one of them is likely to be an Arrow Of Weakness or another debuff arrow to fire at Midoriya. A normal fully charged arrow being fired from a bow irl is 52 m/s which is subsonic level, faster than the human eye and Steve is a lot stronger than the average human being, so the arrows that he will fire will be possibly far faster. Midoriya can't react or dodge that.
 
Insert creative name here 12 said:
Also my B Thanos isn't even MHS he's high hypersonic so it's an even bigger gap
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Yeah, but I need a source for that and even if there was a valid canon source, that's PIS.
 
He's never fought an invisible person before. There is an invisible person in the U.A Academy, but he's never fought her.
 
Yeah, how will Midoriya be able to beat Steve if Steve has a speed amp and throws a Blindness and Poison potion on him? Steve's final results are 8 potions so he should have even more potions to help him in battle like a Strength potion to amp his AP and strike Midoriya to death with a weapon. That's if he hits it and that's only in certain situations
Not really, since Steve has his armour and shields for defense and enough start range to amp his speed, strength and Regenerationn using potions to charge in on Midoriya and throw a Decay potion at him to kill him. Also, Steve has four arrows, one of them is likely to be an Arrow Of Weakness or another debuff arrow to fire at Midoriya. A normal fully charged arrow being fired from a bow irl is 52 m/s which is subsonic level, faster than the human eye and Steve is a lot stronger than the average human being, so the arrows that he will fire will be possibly far faster. Midoriya can't react or dodge that.

Iron armor is .77 tons it isn't standing up to borderline 8-C (midoriya should actually be high 8-C due to harming someone with 3 ton dura) and shield can be gotten around, travel speed is almost inconsequential at best this means Steve can chase Deku to throw stuff at him, the highest strength buff at best makes him comparable with Izuku in AP, a creeper can almost kill Steve in Iron armor with one attack and Deku is over twice as strong so regen is a non issue and Deku would kill him with one punch, Steve has subsonic reactions so Deku does as well he can dodge the arrows and even pick them back up and throw back with more force
 
Insert creative name here 12 said:
Yeah, how will Midoriya be able to beat Steve if Steve has a speed amp and throws a Blindness and Poison potion on him? Steve's final results are 8 potions so he should have even more potions to help him in battle like a Strength potion to amp his AP and strike Midoriya to death with a weapon.
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That's if he hits it and that's only in certain situationsNot really, since Steve has his armour and shields for defense and enough start range to amp his speed, strength and Regenerationn using potions to charge in on Midoriya and throw a Decay potion at him to kill him. Also, Steve has four arrows, one of them is likely to be an Arrow Of Weakness or another debuff arrow to fire at Midoriya. A normal fully charged arrow being fired from a bow irl is 52 m/s which is subsonic level, faster than the human eye and Steve is a lot stronger than the average human being, so the arrows that he will fire will be possibly far faster. Midoriya can't react or dodge that. Iron armor is .77 tons it isn't standing up to borderline 8-C (midoriya should actually be high 8-C due to harming someone with 3 ton dura) and shield can be gotten around, travel speed is almost inconsequential at best this means Steve can chase Deku to throw stuff at him, the highest strength buff at best makes him comparable with Izuku in AP, a creeper can almost kill Steve in Iron armor with one attack and Deku is over twice as strong so regen is a non issue and Deku would kill him with one punch, Steve has subsonic reactions so Deku does as well he can dodge the arrows and even pick them back up and throw back with more force
Yet he can tank multiple hits from an Iron Golem with Full Leather Armour? And Steve firing arrows should be higher than Subsonic because well, it's Steve, his physical strength is Godlike compared to a normal human being. Also, only the person who fired the arrow (who is Steve) can pick it back up.
 
Deku never fought the invisible girl but he always makes notations on how to deal with every new quirk that he sees, so despite not having fought a invisible oponent before he certainly has at least a plan.
 
Insert creative name here 12 said:
Yeah, but I need a source for that and even if there was a valid canon source, that's PIS.
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It's still a feat and listed on their profiles
It's still PIS, because it's so inconsistent and contradictory with her speed. It's like saying that Thor's durability is not even small building level because he can get severely injured and unconscious by a bullet being fired in his head.
 
Yeah, how will Midoriya be able to beat Steve if Steve has a speed amp and throws a Blindness and Poison potion on him? Steve's final results are 8 potions so he should have even more potions to help him in battle like a Strength potion to amp his AP and strike Midoriya to death with a weapon.That's if he hits it and that's only in certain situationsNot really, since Steve has his armour and shields for defense and enough start range to amp his speed, strength and Regenerationn using potions to charge in on Midoriya and throw a Decay potion at him to kill him. Also, Steve has four arrows, one of them is likely to be an Arrow Of Weakness or another debuff arrow to fire at Midoriya. A normal fully charged arrow being fired from a bow irl is 52 m/s which is subsonic level, faster than the human eye and Steve is a lot stronger than the average human being, so the arrows that he will fire will be possibly far faster. Midoriya can't react or dodge that. Iron armor is .77 tons it isn't standing up to borderline 8-C (midoriya should actually be high 8-C due to harming someone with 3 ton dura) and shield can be gotten around, travel speed is almost inconsequential at best this means Steve can chase Deku to throw stuff at him, the highest strength buff at best makes him comparable with Izuku in AP, a creeper can almost kill Steve in Iron armor with one attack and Deku is over twice as strong so regen is a non issue and Deku would kill him with one punch, Steve has subsonic reactions so Deku does as well he can dodge the arrows and even pick them back up and throw back with more force
Yet he can tank multiple hits from an Iron Golem with Full Leather Armour? And Steve firing arrows should be higher than Subsonic because well, it's Steve, his physical strength is Godlike compared to a normal human being. Also, only the person who fired the arrow (who is Steve) can pick it back up.

Game mechanics if that's your argument I'll just say Steve is featless or is 9A with his Iron armor, Steve's arrows aren't shown to be ludicrously fast in game, game mechanics again
 
Madotsuki24 said:
But Steve dying to a Creeper is also game mechanics. I don't get your point...
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Steve can survive a .77 ton explosion with full iron armor if that's game mechanics then this fight can't happen because most arguments can be waved off with game's mechanics
 
And the Arrow thing is a consistent part within the game. Steve can't even pick up Arrows from Skeletons and fire them back. Heck, I don't even think that Zombies can pick up arrows.
 
Steve>Enderman(which is twice as durable as Steve)>Creeper which is 0.77 tons. So Steve's AP is defiently higher than 0.77 tons but still I don't know the exact number.
 
Phoenks said:
Steve>Enderman(which is twice as durable as Steve)>Creeper which is 0.77 tons. So Steve's AP is defiently higher than 0.77 tons but still I don't know the exact number.
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What proves the Enderman is twice as durable? Steve isn't above .77 tons the Enderman is damaged by that ad Steve can hurt it so he's .77 tons
 
Enderman have double the HP of Steve. And Steve can kill endermen, which is where his Building Level AP comes from.
 
Insert creative name here 12 said:
Phoenks said:
Steve>Enderman(which is twice as durable as Steve)>Creeper which is 0.77 tons. So Steve's AP is defiently higher than 0.77 tons but still I don't know the exact number.
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What proves the Enderman is twice as durable? Steve isn't above .77 tons the Enderman is damaged by that ad Steve can hurt it so he's .77 tons
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It's literally because the Enderman has twice the amount of hitpoints Steve has! xD
 
I mean, Final Fantasy characters normally have around 200HP to start with at the beginning of the game and then they have thousands of HP at the end of the game. Shouldn't that make their durability higher canonically?
 
They are stronger at the end of the games though. They just might not necessarily have keys for before that.

You can't linearly scale enderman hp like that though.
 
Phoenks said:
HP=Durability
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HP is literally a game mechanic that can be influenced by things like Defense it isn't and accurate description of a character's durability plus that creates another's problem if the Enderman is .77 for surviving the creeper that means Steve's profile if wrong about his base dura
 
Endermen can survive like 4 Explosions though? which is 3.08 Tons?
 
wait technically endermen are capable of surving charged creeper explosions which can harm endermen and steve can also harm endermen so could steve scale to charged creepers?
 
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