Superman (Injustice) vs Thor (MCU)

[Stefano4444]

Awakened Thor

Base Superman

No Stormbreaker or Mjolnir

Speed Equalized

Superma: 6 (PapiSavitar5025, Ionliosite, WarriorofMite, M3X, AnonymousBlank, The Calaca)

Thor: 4 (The Wright Way, Ted Ed, Schnee One, TheDarkSide857)

Inconclusive: 0 ()

 

[Stefano4444]

bump

 

[Stefano4444]

bump

 

[The_Wright_Way]

These two are honestly pretty close in AP, Supes is a bit stronger, but Thor's magic more than makes up for that and this version of Clark seems pretty explicitly weak to it.

Both have good heaps of experience, but Thor has lived several hundred years longer. On top of that, Thor isuch more level headed. One of these two lost literally everything and turned into a blood thirty dictator, the other just got depressed and fat. Thor is a good deal more stable.

Furthermore, Superman can fly, but Thor can counter that with a storm and flight isn't something that Clark abuses too much.

Kal's best advantages are his heat vision and ice breath, but he's honestly the type who prefers to brutalize and maim rather than just incap with ice breath or something like that.

Thor takes this 6/10 times.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

I'm not sure if Clark would be pretty weak to magic,in all honesty. He's stomped Shazam and even Diana's weapons which, I'm very positve are magical, shattered against his skin like nothing.

He has also taken hits from Hawkman's mace, which I'm sure is magical as well, and was able to get up right after, while also contending with beings like Black Adam, and if this Clark sees someone like Thor being too much of a problem he'll probably just try and Doomsday, or Green Lantern Guardian him, throwing him into space or the sun.

This Superman is bloodlusted, so abusing Heat Vision is surely something I feel like he would do. And he has shown using Freeze Breath when he's fighting opponents similar to his level, especially if they have magic. (Shazam, Etrigan)

For these reasons, I'm going with Superman.

 

[Ionliosite]

Trash Superman FRA

 

[Ted_Ed]

thor fra

 

[WarriorofMite]

superman fra

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Bump

 

[Schnee_One]

Thor can survive in space and can fly so I have no idea how tossing to space will give him the win at all.

Thor FRA

 

[M3X_2.0]

Superman FRA

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Thor can survive in space and can fly so I have no idea how tossing to space will give him the win at all.
Thor FRA

Thor can only fly with Stormbreaker, which he does not have.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Superman: 4 Thor: 3

 

[Schnee_One]

Still kinda moot because he still survive in space.

Also, Freeze breath isn't going to work on someone who can survive in outer space either

Though, the fight can't be added if you restrict stormbreaker

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

It could trap him for even a moment to allow Clark to do something probably, but he'd be floating around space being unable to do anything.

 

[M3X_2.0]

But this would be a BRF, no? Thor can't fight in outer space without his weapon to fly

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

How so? I'm pretty sure restricting equipment is infact allowed.

 

[Schnee_One]

No it isn't.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

I'm....pretty sure you've always beenable to restrict equipment.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Superman trowing Thor to outer space is some kind of BFR, I mean.

 

[Schnee_One]

You haven't been able to do that for almost a year now

You can't restrict things unless they are a different tier

 

[Lightning_XXI]

You can only ban (and still add the fight on their profiles) if this equipment is on another Tier, I believe

Edit: Ninja'd

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Superman trowing Thor to outer space is some kind of BFR, I mean.

"

BFR is short for Battle Field Removal, referring to one opponent forcing the other outside of their area of combat for a long enough period of time that the battle cannot be continued. As long as they cannot return from wherever they have been transported to within a certain amount of time - a week, going by Standard Battle Assumptions - victory is reached through BFR. The specific methods of BFR may vary, and they may be as simple as teleporting an opponent somewhere far far away to abandoning them in another time, sending them to a parallel universe, or knocking them into space."

 

[TheDarkSide857]

Let us not forget Thor survived contact with the Power Stone, which could've destroyed all life on Xandar and decimated its surface, thus being 5-A.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Except Stormbreaker isn't being banned, Awakened Thor just doesn't have it yet. Different versions have different stuff.

Thanos chooses the output of the Stone as seen when he ramped it up on Thor's head. 5-A is an outlier, you gotta stop using it as a reason when its not.

 

[TheDarkSide857]

Except Stormbreaker isn't being banned, Awakened Thor just doesn't have it yet. Different versions have different stuff.
Thanos chooses the output of the Stone as seen when he ramped it up on Thor's head. 5-A is an outlier, you gotta stop using it as a reason when its not.

But the highest output that the Stone has displayed so far is razing entire planets. You can't ignore a feat just because the output varies.

Look at The Wright Way's argument.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

No. You do not assume an attack to always be at max output unless given reason to. There is absolutely no reason why Thanos was using planet levels of energy when Thor is Low 6-B and we even have multiple in verse reasons why its not 5-A. I am not ignoring the feat though, I am ignoring the wank you are attributing to it.

I did, he is wrong.

1. Thor doesn't use magic. It gers said for 2 and a half phases that Asgardians do not use magic, just advanced science. Even if that was steelmanned though, see PapiSavitar's post.

2. Thor has no experience advantage, its not even comparable. He spent his life one shotting people with only a few like Hulk being on his level. Superman spends his time fighting threats that need the League to handle, people physically superior, people physically comparable with greater skill etc just in the games alone.

Thor goes the way of Supes' last lightning wielding victim FRA

 

[TheDarkSide857]

No. You do not assume an attack to always be at max output unless given reason to. There is absolutely no reason why Thanos was using planet levels of energy when Thor is Low 6-B and we even have multiple in verse reasons why its not 5-A. I am not ignoring the feat though, I am ignoring the wank you are attributing to it.
I did, he is wrong.

1. Thor doesn't use magic. It gers said for 2 and a half phases that Asgardians do not use magic, just advanced science. Even if that was steelmanned though, see PapiSavitar's post.

2. Thor has no experience advantage, its not even comparable. He spent his life one shotting people with only a few like Hulk being on his level. Superman spends his time fighting threats that need the League to handle, people physically superior, people physically comparable with greater skill etc just in the games alone.

Thor goes the way of Supes' last lightning wielding victim FRA

I wasn't talking about Thanos using planet levels of energy on a Low 6-B Thor because you debunked that already. I was responding to your statement that 5-A was an outlier. I said the highest output that the Stone has displayed so far is razing entire planets. I never even gave an indication we were talking about Thanos torturing Thor anymore.

1. Ah.

2. Nah, for one, he fought Destroyer, Hulk, Malekith, Kurse, Ultro, Surtur, Hela, and Thanos, each one at a time and each spanning 9 years, means that he'll have gained enough experience fighting people physically superior or physically comparable with greater skill. Plus, Injustice games are Street Fighter-formatted, which means Superman fighting people physically superior and physically comparable with greater skill etc just in the games alone is inapplicable since in those Street Fighter-like games, the weakling Harley Quinn can defeat the obviously much more powerful Brainiac if she's the player's character, when depending on actual feats Brainiac would oneshot Harley Quinn.

 

[TheDarkSide857]

Count this as a vote for Thor.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

He is excluding the comics, not talking about the Street Fighter fights in Injustice, talking about the main story and cutscene, Superman taking on Doomsday, fighting himself, Black Adam,and stomping Captain Marvel (or Shazam, I'm used to calling him CM).

In the comics,he's faced a nanotech amped Batman, Green Lantern Guardians, Mogo the Living Green Lantern Planet, along with most of the Green Lantern corp itself, Captain Atom, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Zeus (though he got lolstomped), Hercules, and Etrigan.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

@DarkSide

Destroyer was fodder to him and couldn't scratch Thor, he was fodder to Kurse and couldn't scratch him, Malekith was fodder to him pre Aether and couldn't get the upper hand against Thor despite it, Ultron bullied him like Mike Tyson vs a 2 year old, Surtur was bodied once Thor got past the flamethrower, Hela wrecked awakened Thor with ease and the one actual hit he got in did nothing to her, Thanos no diffed Thor and no diffed Hulk one after the other without a scratch.

Like I said, Thor stomps or gets stomped. Not sure if you are but if you are trying to use the 9 years he had all these fights in to say he had more of these fights in his 1500 years, no. We don't see or hear hide nor hair of such things so to assume as such would be pure head canon.

You realise that got explained in the games with the 5UP3R nanotech amping everyone to Kryptonian levels so the gameplay wouldn't even contradict anything if one tried to argue it.

 

[TheDarkSide857]

He is excluding the comics, not talking about the Street Fighter fights in Injustice, talking about the main story and cutscene, Superman taking on Doomsday, fighting himself, Black Adam,and stomping Captain Marvel (or Shazam, I'm used to calling him CM).
In the comics,he's faced a nanotech amped Batman, Green Lantern Guardians, Mogo the Living Green Lantern Planet, along with most of the Green Lantern corp itself, Captain Atom, Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Zeus (though he got lolstomped), Hercules, and Etrigan.

While he's indeed faced the Green Lanterns and Batman in base, he could only face Mogo as an empowered Yellow Lantern, and in base faced the others with help, and Captain Atom and Wonder Woman beat him. Thor already dealt with the Destroyer and Surtur, so a man with generic super strength and a demon should be nothing to him, using the Injustice versions.

 

[TheDarkSide857]

@DarkSide
Destroyer was fodder to him and couldn't scratch Thor, he was fodder to Kurse and couldn't scratch him, Malekith was fodder to him pre Aether and couldn't get the upper hand against Thor despite it, Ultron bullied him like Mike Tyson vs a 2 year old, Surtur was bodied once Thor got past the flamethrower, Hela wrecked awakened Thor with ease and the one actual hit he got in did nothing to her, Thanos no diffed Thor and no diffed Hulk one after the other without a scratch.

Like I said, Thor stomps or gets stomped. Not sure if you are but if you are trying to use the 9 years he had all these fights in to say he had more of these fights in his 1500 years, no. We don't see or hear hide nor hair of such things so to assume as such would be pure head canon.

You realise that got explained in the games with the 5UP3R nanotech amping everyone to Kryptonian levels so the gameplay wouldn't even contradict anything if one tried to argue it.

Yeeeeah, I got nothing to counter that.

Oh, and by the way for your years statement, I wasn't. I was just showing it to show that Thor has experience too.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Wonder Woman only beat him because he wasn't taking the fight seriously until she had alraedy gouged his eyes out and shattered his arm, just saying.

 

[The_Calaca]

As much as I hate to say it, Kal FRA.

 

[Ayewale]

Kal takes this. Also I dunno why peeps are saying thor doesn't have an Experience advantage, he clearly does.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Sad this can't be added anyways.

 

[Stefano4444]

So a major victory for Superman...

Maybe i should have added the Mjolnir, to make the match more balanced.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

The match is pretty balanced as-is, it's just apparently the match can't be added if you restrict Weapons. With Awakened Thor, you either have to un-restrict Stormbreaker or use a different Key.

 

[Stefano4444]

Maybe it was better if i used Endgame, but i wanted to use Thor at his best (physically and mentally), but the far higher of the Stormbreaker would have turn it intro a stomp in Thor's favour.