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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

for a lot of this the placements don't even match up with the actual list itself, so like, please clarify because this is a clusterfuck
Sorry, I was half sleept
CharacterTiers and spotReasoning
Mickey Mouse and Henry9th in High 8-C, with Mickey being 8th in 4-A (he is beating spongeboob)they are both absurdly hard to kill, the Mouse having one of the highest AP for his tier, potentially becoming 4-A, bullshit passive luck, EE+soul+Mind, and fourth wall teleport when things hit the fan, Henry has passive time manip to save his ass
Dante11th in 8-CDMC bullcrap
Giorno9th in 9-CNo u
Li_Qiye9th in 4-ALook at his profile
Characters from God of Highschool8th in 4-B (they should replace darkseid, he has been upgraded)BS skill, BS haxes, BS amps, and High godly
Yang kai9th in 7-B,6th in High 6-C, 9th in High 6-B, 5-A, 8th in 4-C, 8th in High 4-C (He could probably defeat yu-gi-oh characters), an empty spot in 4-A, an empty spot in 3-C, and a empty spot in low 2-CAn absurd amount of layers that are also passives and bs skill
GarouAn spot bellow yang in 4-A, and a spot bellow yang in 3-CPassive almost insta kill radiation, mimicry able to copy almost everything, and nuclear attacks that bypass dura
The white queenFor an empty spot in 4-B, and 3-C
Characters from Darkstalker (Jedah and Morrigan)For an empty spot in 3-C (bellow garou)High regeneration

CharacterTierReasoning
Chen Qi (Dragon Talisman)11th in High 6-ALook at his haxes
Zhong Yue12th in High 6-A
Ji Ning13th in High 6-AThought based power nullification, and CM2
Characters from Willverse14th in High 6-ALike..10? Layers in CM1 EE, along with other crap
Kenshiro9th in 5-CInstict based NEP, almost all of his attacks instant kill, BS skill
Ata (Speed Unequalized) / Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki (Speed Equalized)10th in 5-CAta EE based in Data type 2, I don't know much about the naruto guy
Characters from Bastard!!9th in 5-B5 layers of CM1, and the same CM also does passive Power nullification
Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)10th in 5-BLike 100+ layers of death
Meng Chuan11th in 5-BIDK
CharactersPosition and tierReasoning
Ata12th in 5-BAta has EE based in Data type
Mori Jin13th in 5-BOne of the highest skill in the wiki, Has a 4-A transformation
Characters from World of Warcraft (Illidan Stormrage and Arthas Menethil)14th in 5-BAsk skelly about them
Characters from Megaman11th in 5-AOne of the highest AP in the tier, High skill and the poster boy (megaman)
tends to start with insta kill haxes
Max Steel12th in 5-A
World Leader13th in 5-ABlackhole spam
Mega ManEmpty spot in 4-BNPE based on data
The Player (Pixle Gun 3D)Empty spot in 4-B
BalancerAbove GoH in 4-BCM1, AE based in CM1, Data manipulation type 2.....
I think I have fixed everything, also Yorman for 7-A,5-B and Low 2-C
 
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Sorry, I was half sleept
CharacterTiers and spotReasoning
Mickey Mouse and Henry9th in High 8-C, with Mickey being 8th in 4-A (he is beating spongeboob)they are both absurdly hard to kill, the Mouse having one of the highest AP for his tier, potentially becoming 4-A, bullshit passive luck, EE+soul+Mind, and fourth wall teleport when things hit the fan, Henry has passive time manip to save his ass
Dante11th in 8-CDMC bullcrap
Giorno9th in 9-CNo u
Li_Qiye9th in 4-ALook at his profile
Characters from God of Highschool8th in 4-B (they should replace darkseid, he has been upgraded)BS skill, BS haxes, BS amps, and High godly
Yang kai9th in 7-B,6th in High 6-C, 9th in High 6-B, 5-A, 8th in 4-C, 8th in High 4-C (He could probably defeat yu-gi-oh characters), an empty spot in 4-A, an empty spot in 3-C, and a empty spot in low 2-CAn absurd amount of layers that are also passives and bs skill
GarouAn spot bellow yang in 4-A, and a spot bellow yang in 3-CPassive almost insta kill radiation, mimicry able to copy almost everything, and nuclear attacks that bypass dura
The white queenFor an empty spot in 4-B, and 3-C
Characters from Darkstalker (Jedah and Morrigan)For an empty spot in 3-C (bellow garou)High regeneration

CharacterTierReasoning
Chen Qi (Dragon Talisman)11th in High 6-ALook at his haxes
Zhong Yue12th in High 6-A
Ji Ning13th in High 6-AThought based power nullification, and CM2
Characters from Willverse14th in High 6-ALike..10? Layers in CM1 EE, along with other crap
Kenshiro9th in 5-CInstict based NEP, almost all of his attacks instant kill, BS skill
Ata (Speed Unequalized) / Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki (Speed Equalized)10th in 5-CAta EE based in Data type 2, I don't know much about the naruto guy
Characters from Bastard!!9th in 5-B5 layers of CM1, and the same CM also does passive Power nullification
Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)10th in 5-BLike 100+ layers of death
Meng Chuan11th in 5-BIDK
CharactersPosition and tierReasoning
Ata12th in 5-BAta has EE based in Data type
Mori Jin13th in 5-BOne of the highest skill in the wiki, Has a 4-A transformation
Characters from World of Warcraft (Illidan Stormrage and Arthas Menethil)14th in 5-BAsk skelly about them
Characters from Megaman11th in 5-AOne of the highest AP in the tier, High skill and the poster boy (megaman)
tends to start with insta kill haxes
Max Steel12th in 5-A
World Leader13th in 5-ABlackhole spam
Mega ManEmpty spot in 4-BNPE based on data
The Player (Pixle Gun 3D)Empty spot in 4-B
BalancerAbove GoH in 4-BCM1, AE based in CM1, Data manipulation type 2.....
I think I have fixed everything, also Yorman for 7-A,5-B and Low 2-C
You still realize that there are 3 people between Garou and Yang in the 4-A Non-Smurf list (Alongside 5 others above Yang), right? Shouldn't you list them as well?
 
For reference, this is the 4-A non-smurf list:

Tier 4-A:

1. Wei Shi Lindon

2. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy (Mainly Godcat and Akron)

3. Characters from The God of High School (Mujin Park and 666: Satan) (Speed Equalized) / Evil Computer Supreme (Speed Unequalized)

4. SpongeBob SquarePants

5. Characters from Bleach (Senjumaru Shutara and Sosuke Aizen)

6. Yang Kai

7. Black Hole

8. Dark Gaia

9. Fastus

10. Garou

11. Lee Geon

12.

13.

14.

15.

Ideally, the list for here should be like this:

Tier 4-A:

1. The Weaver

2. Chen Jin

3. Characters from Granblue Fantasy (Captain and Bahamut) (Speed Equalized) / Sun Wukong (Speed Unequalized)

4. Characters from Dr. Slump (Arale Norimaki and Gatchan)

5. Characters from God of War

6. The Captain (Honkai Impact 3rd)

7. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy

8. Ace (Final Fantasy)

9. Li Qiye

10. Wei Shi Lindon

11. Characters from The God of High School (Mujin Park and 666: Satan) (Speed Equalized) / Evil Computer Supreme (Speed Unequalized)

12. Mickey Mouse (Speed Equalized) / SpongeBob SquarePants (Speed Unequalized)

13. Characters from Bleach (Senjumaru Shutara and Sosuke Aizen)

14. Yang Kai

15. Announcer

Note: Though Wei places higher than the EBF characters (Specifically Godcat and Akron who aren't smurfs) in the non-smurf list, the players have passive 5-D plot/fate hax as well as passive law/probability hax that would make them stomp Wei. Also, Announcer is in the place of Black Hole because he has thought-based 4-D plot manipulation that also doubles as power nullification (He could probably even place higher if I wanted him to because #10-14 are non-smurfs).
 
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Yeah none of which are relevant because he only resists the soul hax rather than literally everything else
Wouldn't that end in an incon then? Because Yang kai pulls his bootleg riatzu crush to instantly kill the evil swarm, and then simultaneously dies because swarm passives
 
Wouldn't that end in an incon then? Because Yang kai pulls his bootleg riatzu crush to instantly kill the evil swarm, and then simultaneously dies because swarm passives
I mean the evilswarm virus is entirely abstract, so the passive crush aint doing shit, and so it just resurrects them, or the folk without souls just ignore it altogether
 
Mononobe yuu for High 6C spot
 
Mononobe yuu for High 6C spot
he is not physically high 6c so he does not qualify. He can get the empty 10A spot, and be higher in 10A for the non smurf thread
 
This ****** above Vandalieu in 7-A, he has all of this powers https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Toon_Physiology_(Looney_Tunes) except for the high tier part.....(But he should have high Physiology due to affecting the writters and directors of the show but eh...). Including bs plot manip, and high godly (based on plot), along with the fact that he is absurdly resilient, making incap kinda...Impossible, so he justs gets tired of this, and uses his strongest haxes
 
Also remove demogorgon from High 8-C, DnD was removed because...It is ******* outdated as alll hell, and the same goes for him
 

Settra gets tied with Gotrek for #2 8-A(for being from the same verse.)

Everyone below that is a haxlord with very little stopping Settra from killing them outright and tanking all their shit with his 1-A resistances, or is Frisk and Oracle who both have no wincon as Settra beats them to death repeatedly resulting in a one-sided Inconclusive that might as well put Settra above them anyway.

Settra also incons Caliborn and can face-tank the insuing blast because his 1-A resistance skeledick is above Homestuck's 1-A crap
 
Settra also incons Caliborn and can face-tank the insuing blast because his 1-A resistance skeledick is above Homestuck's 1-A crap
Shouldn't he be with Caliborn then? And he should replace SCP character because...Uh...They are all going to die in a weekish
 
Shouldn't he be with Caliborn then? And he should replace SCP character because...Uh...They are all going to die in a weekish
I mean Gotrek should be too because instead of "he just resists the universe dying" it's "his doom is to be at the hands of Grungi so he literally WILL NOT die even if you throw a 1-A nuke at him, or have your destiny altered by a chaos god to kill him"
 
Now that my Marvel magic CRT is accepted...

Team Fortress 2 Smile GIF by MOODMAN


So with the new magic hax/resistances, Doctor Doom gets the following haxxes/resistances just from the basic powers of magic:

  • Type 1 Conceptual Manipulation
  • Type 2 Information Manipulation
  • Space-Time Manipulation
  • Causality Manipulation
  • Fate Manipulation
  • Plot Manipulation
  • All of these powers
  • Law Manipulation
  • Reality Warping
  • Passive Probability Manipulation
  • Statistics Reduction
  • Life Manipulation
  • Physics Manipulation
  • Holy Manipulation
And keep in mind that Marvel Magic's potency is Low 1-A, and that high-tier sorcerers like Doom have 1 layer of hax/resistance for all of the above.

And that's not including other magic powers such as BFR with range up to High Hyperversal, Power Nullification/Absorption, and Existence Erasure, or the powers/resistances he already had.

So in the 5-B list, his vast arsenal of Low 1-A hax (especially him having 1 layer of hax/resistance for all the listed powers for "basic" magic above) should put him above both Ruphas and Ace, as well as above Cui Heng (1 layer of Low 1-A hax/resistance >> 80 layers of 4-D hax) and Foreigner, who has 1-C hax potency.

That said, he still doesn't stand a chance against Joshua's High 1-A hax (seriously, why is Joshua not #1 in the 5-B rankings, IIRC Lu Zhiyu's hax is "only" 1-A at , peak), so he would be the #3 strongest 5-B.

I'll deal with the other tiers where there is Doom and/or other Marvel magic users later when I'm not busy with studies.
 
Doctor Doom and Odin both have the Low 1-A hax I described above for Basic Magic (though Odin's isn't layered), so they should be #2 in the 3-C list (since I have no doubts that Chen Jin has bonkers 1-A hax given that he's from LDG)
 
I mean Gotrek should be too because instead of "he just resists the universe dying" it's "his doom is to be at the hands of Grungi so he literally WILL NOT die even if you throw a 1-A nuke at him, or have your destiny altered by a chaos god to kill him"

Settra gets tied with Gotrek for #1 8-A(for being from the same verse.)

Everyone below that is a haxlord with very little stopping Settra from killing them outright and tanking all their shit with his 1-A resistances, or is Frisk and Oracle who both have no wincon as Settra beats them to death repeatedly resulting in a one-sided Inconclusive that might as well put Settra above them anyway.

Settra also incons Caliborn and can face-tank the insuing blast because his 1-A resistance skeledick is above Homestuck's 1-A crap
he is not physically high 6c so he does not qualify. He can get the empty 10A spot, and be higher in 10A for the non smurf thread
I be waiting Setsuna
 
Post-Auditor Absorption Tricky. (idk i have no other characters i could throw in here that i know)

With the new CRT which wiped away his most glaring weakness, this guy is nigh-impossible to kill, let alone fight. with durability negation methods that work at a glance, two true forms in two different dimensions that function as his immortality type 9, being able to swap which version is the 'true form' on a whim, (and being able to spawn a new version of said true form as long as one or the other is alive) he becomes a tough cookie to crack.
 
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