It's not too vague to calculate. You can clearly tell how All Might gathered the clouds around a center point and moved them. The horizon distance should also be set to 20 kilometers given how that's the average, (I think.) Really, the methods of the calculation were discarded for absolutely no good reason whatsoever.
United States of Smash... What assumes it's only 8-A?
Not really, especially when you realize the anime showed how there was an eye in the clouds.
I was told beforehand that it only gives 8-A results, and my own check of it also gave 8-A results. The clash between All Might AFO created a bigger shockwave than the United States of Smash, but is still 8-A+ and has to be cut in half since it's two people clashing.
Classic AoE fallacy. Goku's kamehamehas often made simple craters. Guess Goku's not universal
the feat itself may be only 8-A, but the presence of lower feats sure as hell doesn't debunk higher ones
Superman had struggle with tier 7 feats sometimes. RIP his tier I guess
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So, just because people are tired of it is back and forth we reject it? Logically, you can tell that the feat is done through kinetic energy/force, due to how the eye of the storm is represented in the anime. It's pretty clear the clouds were at least spinning in some manner. We even see that the cyclone he created is spinning itself, which implies that the cyclone managed to move the clouds in some way.
So, why would this be a good reason to ignore all the reasons why the feat is done through kinetic energy? This wouldn't disprove my argument, people are just too lazy to calculate it again.
Using the anime is fine if it's not contradicted in the manga. It's been several times on the wiki, so this would be hypocrisy.
Here's the problem. Hood isn't 7-C just because he's high-end, he's 7-C because he has an overpowered muscle augmentation quirk. Other high-ends aren't shown to have that. Like, sure. All of the Nomu's have some sort of augmented strength, but that augmented strength is usually only portrayed as High 8-C. Examples like Hood or the USJ Nomu are far higher. And there isn't really an instance where a High-End hurts Endeavor unless their actually piercing him with a sharp object.
And we should accept their arguments? There's god knows how many statements at this point of Horikoshi confirming the canon of the movies. Their arguments should be irrelevant by now. There's even an entire blog Rusty made with several statements confirming the movie's canon.
With all the stuff I and a few others have planned, this will surely take a while. So I understand.
The dispersal was High 6-C, which, you can dismiss as an outlier, sure, but Nine condensing/creating the actual storm should honestly be pretty fair game. Eyeballing it, seems about City+ to Large City level. Unless those cloud calc revisions pass through or whatever at least
I'll see if I can calculate the storm itself later on then. Nine likely scales to the storm I think.
I don’t think Nine scales to the storm it’s a separate statistic completely for him I’m quite sure.
He was gonna bust the island but aren’t we unsure on time frame
Don't we scale all his quirks to roughly the same tier, at least according to his page
First, 45% was the one that tanked air cannons and a hit from Shigaraki, and those are its only feats, so there is no argument to suggest 45% isn't just weaker than Shigaraki by a quantifiable amount. The one he took at 30% near the end against AFO Shigaraki was done by a severely weakened, near dead, just woke up controlled body, it was no where near as strong as the ones he used vs Endeavor.
So let me get this straight. Do you think Shigaraki is being serious against Endeavor? If he were serious, he would've killed him instantly instead of just teasing him by mimicking his Number One pose. If he was actually serious, he would've used over several other quirks, other than just regeneration, Air Cannon, and some strength enhancements.
How do people know he was at 45%? Apart from the first 45% kick against Shigaraki's decay, 45% is never mentioned again. We know from Bakugo's inner words during the sprint that 45% is only for short bursts during attacks. It's the new 20% Air Force. It is not his Full Cowl. If Deku could maintain 45% Full Cowling for an extended fight, it would definitely have been mentioned.
You can actually visually tell when he's using 45% by the lightning coming off of and coating around his eyes. For example, when he first clashes with Shigaraki to save Aizawa, his eyes are coated in lightning. When he grapples Shigaraki with black whip the first time he has no lightning, but when he succeeds and fully restrains him, he has lightning the entire time. When he's fighting Shigaraki in the air, he has lightning in his eyes and is clearly already going beyond his limits with 100%.
The one to stop the Decay, his St. Louis Smash Air Force
