Whis vs galeem

[Dragonboi9191]

Gallem for destroying the universe and making a goku DLC.

 

[Dragonboi9191]

Oh, and what about the master hands?

 

[Mickey1940]

I don't think he can make a Goku DLC without actually killing Goku

 

[Mickey1940]

Plus Goku <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Whis, anyways

 

[Dragonboi9191]

Plus Goku <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Whis, anyways

And?

 

[Mickey1940]

Plus Goku <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Whis, anyways

And?

How would summoning a Goku clone help Galeem beat Whis

 

[Dragonboi9191]

I never said that. I said he would do his explosion thing and take over the unverse.

 

[Dragonboi9191]

Plus he could just make clones like Cap. Falcon who is 2c

 

[Mickey1940]

Plus he could just make clones like Cap. Falcon who is 2c

I hope this is a joke

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Captain_Falco

 

[Dragonboi9191]

(My bad. Must have read a faulty thread) Anyway, he can just vaporise whis, unless he can somehow outfly the blast of light.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Whis taps FRA.

Also, I'm pretty sure the god tiers of Smash! were going to be downgraded.

 

[Dragonboi9191]

They arn't downgraded yet.

 

[Dragonboi9191]

Plus, can he even beat the light wave?

 

[Mickey1940]

Plus, can he even beat the light wave?

He has forcefields

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

This should have been added days ago .-.

 

[Mr._Redic]

Y'all remember that a guy with spatial manipulation/Universal+ range can attack any point of a space-time continuum, right? Like, those angel shields are just going to get bypassed.

 

[Dragonboi9191]

Plus, can he even beat the light wave?

He has forcefields

So does zelda and palutena. And look at what happened to them.

 

[Mr._Redic]

Not really relavent.

 

[Dragonboi9191]

Not really relavent.

Shows how Galeems lazers break force fields.

 

[Eficiente]

A forcefield is nothing unique. Even if Galeem had no feats of beating those his rays of light would still do the same they will do to Whis.

 

[Mr._Redic]

I mean sure, but the shields of some characters aren't equivalent to another's, so it's kind of pointless to bring it up.

 

[Mickey1940]

Plus, can he even beat the light wave?

He has forcefields

So does zelda and palutena. And look at what happened to them.

So the rays of light, which have been confirmed to blast through Low 7B shields, would also just as easily pass through a Low 2C shield

sure

 

[Eficiente]

@Mickey Straw Man Fallacy. Only you care about that getting pass Low 7-B shields and waste our time with it.

Getting pass the forcefield via Durability Negation is still a thing. And that's assuming Whis were even using it here.

 

[JackJoyce]

Doesn't the ray of light take some time to charge up? Because Whis will straight up AP stomp before that

 

[Eficiente]

Before it Galeem deconstructed and absorbed many MHs, which Whis also can't resist. The answer to the question would be a no due to him not doing that the second time.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

I'm curious about seeing this discussion continue.

 

[Dragonboi9191]

The only attack that would give Galleem trouble would be a warp. Even then, traveling through time wouldn't help.

 

[JackJoyce]

Before it Galeem deconstructed and absorbed many MHs, which Whis also can't resist. The answer to the question would be a no due to him not doing that the second time.

Yes I missed the absorption part. Galeem fra

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

Before it Galeem deconstructed and absorbed many MHs, which Whis also can't resist. The answer to the question would be a no due to him not doing that the second time.

Yes I missed the absorption part. Galeem fra

well guess that im voted for Galeem Fra.

Galeem is op has some hax.

Sadly facts noted Whis unable dodge to Galeem firing Rainbow laser can instant-kill spirit in cutscene.

 

[Eficiente]

The OP should update the votes.

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

Begin Grace ends 24 hours.

 

[Eficiente]

That is logically secondary to debate and more reasoning being discussed in any vsthread.

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

huh?

 

[Lightbuster30]

So remind me how Whis wins via AP again? No amount of scaling is putting him >>> hundreds of times baseline.

 

[JackJoyce]

So remind me how Whis wins via AP again? No amount of scaling is putting him >>> hundreds of times baseline.

He's superior to Gogeta and Broly. Both of them are effortlessly thousands of time above baseline (I have already voted for Galeem via hax)

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

So remind me how Whis wins via AP again? No amount of scaling is putting him >>> hundreds of times baseline.

See, you made the mistake of assuming logic and legitimate scaling is being used. Whis is casually several quintillion times above baseline 2-A due to the scaling chain and boosts. And that's a lowball.

 

[Akreious]

So remind me how Whis wins via AP again? No amount of scaling is putting him >>> hundreds of times baseline.

Whis > SSB Gogeta > FP Broly > Super Saiyan Gogeta > Base Gogeta > Ikari Broly > Post ToP Goku > Post ToP Vegeta (Fight me on this) > Strongest ToP SSB Kaiokenx20 Goku > Strongest ToP SSB Goku > 2nd UI Goku > Casual Jiren > 1st UI Goku > Infinite Zamasu = Baseline

Let's treat every tick as 1.2x difference! Except for the kaiokenx20 one, that one is an accepted x20 multiplier so we'll subsitute that in.

Whis = 12 >s (12 of 1.2x differences) and one x20 difference

12 x 1.2 = 14.4

18 x 14.4 = 288x Baseline absolute minimum.

Call me out on "Unquantifiable" all you want, but if you actually believe that each battle our characters that's supposedly growing leaps and bounds ahead of what they once were is only 1.2x differences, I honestly do not know what to say to that.

 

[Mickey1940]

So remind me how Whis wins via AP again? No amount of scaling is putting him >>> hundreds of times baseline.

Whis > SSB Gogeta > FP Broly > Super Saiyan Gogeta > Base Gogeta > Ikari Broly > Post ToP Goku > Post ToP Vegeta (Fight me on this) > Strongest ToP SSB Kaiokenx20 Goku > Strongest ToP SSB Goku > 2nd UI Goku > Casual Jiren > 1st UI Goku > Infinite Zamasu = Baseline
Let's treat every tick as 1.2x difference! Except for the kaiokenx20 one, that one is an accepted x20 multiplier so we'll subsitute that in.

Whis = 12 >s (12 of 1.2x differences) and one x20 difference

12 x 1.2 = 14.4

18 x 14.4 = 288x Baseline absolute minimum.

Call me out on "Unquantifiable" all you want, but if you actually believe that each battle our characters that's supposedly growing leaps and bounds ahead of what they once were is only 1.2x differences, I honestly do not know what to say to that.

doesn't this scaling chain have multiple lowballs

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Yes but there are people that disagree with the multipliers that are accepted and there are people that disagree with scaling so every time it gets brought up, there's a disagreement.