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Why don’t dragon ball characters have matter manipulation?

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Oliver_de_jesus said:
that's not atomizing, just overpowering both to the point of destroying them on a molecular level.

unless you use Picoro's statement of attacking atoms then no.
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And that isn’t deconstruction? I mean they clearly have to destroy every single cell of buu and cell.
 
I can accept Piccolo's statement, but with Cell, Gohan just have to destroy him until there is nothing left and with Buu, he was destroyed by the Spirit Bomb, there are arguments if it is more effective against evil enemies or no
 
That would depend on Spirit Bomb itself being able to complete atomize someone, then again didn't Goku's own spirit bomb completely erased him in TOP?
So he did even came back to life? Especially when even someone like Grand Priest assumed him dead.
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
I can accept Piccolo's statement, but with Cell, Gohan just have to destroy him until there is nothing left and with Buu, he was destroyed by the Spirit Bomb, there are arguments if it is more effective against evil enemies or no
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Yes but still they reduced them to cells and then destroyed the cells. That’s at least deconstruction maybe even regeneration negation.
 
Note: Natural side effects from powers, such as Energy Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, Vibration Manipulation, and other abilities that can produce enough energy output to destroy or dismantle objects, do not mean that characters automatically qualify for this ability, unless the abilities in question specifically and directly focus on deconstruction in itself, rather than as a consequence.
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Shubham_Sonsurkar said:
He just got eradicated to the point even his cells couldn't escape the explosion probably.
Not sure about Buu since he was literally turned into mist even blew himself up by destroying the earth as kid buu and still regenerated from said mist.
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Cell has low high regeneration and buu has mid high regeneration and DBZ characters can kill them for good so that’s at least has to be regeneration negation or deconstruction.
 
None of those, it was just ap, cell is reliant on a special nucleus to regen his body, which is the size of a cell, destroy it and you can kill him.

Kid buu was killed by an attack super effective against evil beings which was also brought by everyone in the universe and pushed by goku, it was pure AP as well.

As the page says, you need evidence that the attacks actually targets particles, if you attack someone and destroy them at a molecular level or more, you just AP stomped them
 
Thelastmlg said:
None of those, it was just ap, cell is reliant on a special nucleus to regen his body, which is the size of a cell, destroy it and you can kill him.

Kid buu was killed by an attack super effective against evil beings which was also brought by everyone in the universe and pushed by goku, it was pure AP as well.

As the page says, you need evidence that the attacks actually targets particles, if you attack someone and destroy them at a molecular level or more, you just AP stomped them
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Actually Vegito can easily kill buu as confirmed in the guidebooks. Yes but it should at least be deconstruction since cell was literally turn to cells and destroyed.
speedster352 said:
Yes but that was the only way to get rid of them for good in the clip you literally see cell turning into cells and disappear should this be deconstruction? Here
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Shubham_Sonsurkar said:
That would depend on Spirit Bomb itself being able to complete atomize someone, then again didn't Goku's own spirit bomb completely erased him in TOP?
So he did even came back to life? Especially when even someone like Grand Priest assumed him dead.
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ActuallySpaceMan said:
I mean he pretty much just summed it up, any matter manipulation was performed as a side effect of the attacks and wasn't their deliberate purpose.

Sheer AP not some sort of hax.
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But then why not add it to the profile and specify that it’s an ap thing?
 
Thelastmlg said:
None of those, it was just ap, cell is reliant on a special nucleus to regen his body, which is the size of a cell, destroy it and you can kill him.

Kid buu was killed by an attack super effective against evil beings which was also brought by everyone in the universe and pushed by goku, it was pure AP as well.

As the page says, you need evidence that the attacks actually targets particles, if you attack someone and destroy them at a molecular level or more, you just AP stomped them
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Talk about beating me by an inch
 
speedster352 said:
What about regeneration negation can that work?
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No.

Cell and Buu's healing abilities were not negated. They were overpowered. Hitting a character with Low-Mid Regeneration using an attack that erases their body and mind is not Low-Mid Regeneration Negation; the former character simply did not have a high enough level of Regeneration to recover from their cells being decimated.
 


in this scan mentions that Trunks reduced Freezar to atoms,since they need evidence, they take this one in the face and it doesn't come from a negotiator no.

History He repeatedly led planetary invasions, collecting the outstanding warriors of

several planets. He sold the beautiful planets, and his hobby was collecting them. What's more, he acted as a land shark. Feared by his terrifying band of followers, he was also the one who destroyed Planet Vegeta. He and his men came to Planet Namek, and there for the first time they were forced to suffer. Even after bringing in the superior squad known as the Ginyu Special Squad, the tide of battle turned worse. During his battle with Vegeta, he voluntarily transformed for the first time. After transforming, he utilized a power far beyond what he had before his transformation, and made Vegeta suffer severely, cruelly killing him after reaching his final form. As he defeated his opponents one after another, he killed Krillin, and was only bested by Super Saiyan Goku. Although he died when Planet Namek was wiped out, he was revived as a mecha. But he was reduced to atoms by a boy who came from the future, coming to a miserable end. (Daizenshuu 2, pp.190-193)
 
I’m pretty sure that’s treated as the attacks being so strong, that they forced the atomic bonds of the body to separate.
 
Toby020 said:


in this scan mentions that Trunks reduced Freezar to atoms,since they need evidence, they take this one in the face and it doesn't come from a negotiator no.

History He repeatedly led planetary invasions, collecting the outstanding warriors of

several planets. He sold the beautiful planets, and his hobby was collecting them. What's more, he acted as a land shark. Feared by his terrifying band of followers, he was also the one who destroyed Planet Vegeta. He and his men came to Planet Namek, and there for the first time they were forced to suffer. Even after bringing in the superior squad known as the Ginyu Special Squad, the tide of battle turned worse. During his battle with Vegeta, he voluntarily transformed for the first time. After transforming, he utilized a power far beyond what he had before his transformation, and made Vegeta suffer severely, cruelly killing him after reaching his final form. As he defeated his opponents one after another, he killed Krillin, and was only bested by Super Saiyan Goku. Although he died when Planet Namek was wiped out, he was revived as a mecha. But he was reduced to atoms by a boy who came from the future, coming to a miserable end. (Daizenshuu 2, pp.190-193)
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This says nothing about matter manipulation. Future Trunks sliced Frieza into minced meat and turned him into mist with a ki blast.
 
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