Yhwach vs The Fateless One

[Yomi_Schwarz]

>take a look at Yhwach's page. There's nothing stating that Almighty doesn't need future sight to powernull. I'm not familiar with Yhwach so there might possibly been something that the creator of the page forgot to write in. Yomi, it would be best if you asked a knowledgable member to explain. Until then, your claim that Almighty only needs a look(in the present) to powernull can't be accepted.


>There's nothing stating that Almighty doesn't need future sight to powernull

Guess what,nothing also implies that it needs to look into the future to null What do you even mean? and the case with his battle with ichibei and his final battle with ichigo is a huge implication of my points,my assumption is much more logical than yours in this case

Almighty only uses future sight for precognition and fate manip,Simple as that actually.

>your claim that Almighty only needs a look(in the present) to powernull can't be accepted.

As i said the fight with Ichibei is a huge implication here for that

Yhwach restored his powers from that of being a "black ant" and nullified ichibei's efforts to erase his existence with a gaze,Nothing whatsoever implies that yhwach needs to look in the future to null/steal abilities if anything,Yhwach's ability to change the future was only introduced near the end of thw story

Yhwach says it himself that only a gaze is needed for him to make his enemies powerless

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Isn't Almighty's power null due to:

Sees countless futures - > Finds an instance where a power was used and thus understands it - > Nulls observed power.

I'm pretty sure Yhwach needs to know to null and he can't know if he can't see(Only character who doesn't need to know to know on this wiki is Samus). While the future changing may have been shown later, it is still logical that future sight was what Yhwach has been using since the beginning but the power explanation was saved up for a big reveal(like The World's time stop). Also, Yhwach's line of vision is not normal human linear vision but his vision of all futures. Also, Yhwach's enemies don't have resistance to fate manip nor are they fateless.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Headcanon.Pure Headcanon

you are riding your own assumptions.

"Sees countless futures - > Finds an instance where a power was used and thus understands it - > Nulls observed power."

I provided the scan that implied only a gaze is needed,burden of proof is on you to show something that disproves it.

Your comment is filled with assured uncertainties,you prove it instead of going of a memory or your own assumption.

It works like this

Almighty is activated > Foe is about to use an ability on him > Ability is nulled upon activation due to being casted on yhwach's gaze

or

Almighty is activated > Yhwach views his own fate and sees an ability used on him that he is unfamiliar with > Yhwach gains full understanding of this ability from his own future and nullifies it

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

That's not how the Almighty works.

There are two stages to the Almighty.

The Original Almighty unlocked during the fight against Ichibei which comes with future sight, knowledge of what he sees, power null to things he has knowledge of and immunity to powers he knows. He can also steal powers and forcefully insert his Reiatsu into others.

The New Almighty is unlocked after absorbing the Soul King and it comes with future/fate manipulation.


Yhwach can physically see TFO so he would know about him and his abilities through literally seeing him.

 

[Schnee_One]

Considering everything said, pretty sure Yhwach just nullifies his abilities and either kills him or Incaps him

Voting him FRA TBH

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

If the crux of this thread was simply the Almighty, then add me as a vote for Yhwach for my own explanations on top of Yomi's comments.

 

[Schnee_One]

I believe that's 2-0 for Yhwach

 

[Frantzy12]

Yhwach FRA

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

i believe 3 of us are in favour of yhwach here.

and the case that "Yhwach nulls through the future" which was a basis for most of the inconclusive and FTO votes is pretty much disproved at this point.so idk what happens to those votes

 

[Schnee_One]

Simple, they go.

3-0 for Yhwach

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

4 votes with frantzy

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Did you guys forget the 99% damage reduction(passive and by a gear)? Or mind control?

 

[Frantzy12]

ignores durability and powernull

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

@Tactical

well now you're just ignoring the power null and yhwach starts with the almighty

 

[AppleLord]

They didn't count my vote.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

@Apple

you voted for TFO,yes?

 

[TacticalNuke002]

In that case I have nothing else to say. Kindly let me know when enough votes are there and I'll request this to be added.

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

well guess no idea don't think going switch to my vote for Yhwach FRA

nothing everything is fine right now.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Alright since the vote count got renewed.

5-0 (Yhwach Lead)

 

[LordGinSama]

Yhwach FRA

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

6-0 (Yhwach Lead)

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

So, out of curiosity, what's the reasoning here?

 

[Frantzy12]

I think some people thought Yhwach can only powernull from the future or that his power null is tied to fate manipulation,which is an enitrely different ability granted to him by the Almighty.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Yhwach fra

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

7-0 (Yhwach Lead)

all right that's done with being decisive,we can get this closed

@Cal pls do the honors

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Sure thing

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

i can add it when your done cal,waiting on you