Har har. He's fighting like a madman while unconscious. Even if he's asleep he's not getting any rest, he'll give out.
Be specific. What won't kill you but will incap you, will also being unhealable with High-Low regen (lesser spirit healing magic) which can reattach lost limbs, and restore a sliced-open gut? In the first place, a nerfed Reinhard covered in wounds proceeded to win a 1v2 against god tiers with a sword inside his abdomen.
Regenerating internal damage (organ damage etc.) of that scale requires at least Low-Mid.
It's been mentioned a lot few pages ago.
Attack reflection
You said attack reflection would counter pp
It is quantifiable, we can just equate it to dodging danmaku, since whether it's logically possible or not irl doesn't change the fact he's still dodging a lot of small objects coming at him, so we can at least equate it to that
This does seem to be true (The re;zero stans haven't properly addressed this)
what does garou do about this anyway is the main concern
I see. I only started reading 3 pages ago. What was the reasoning for it?
He dies, basically
Reinhard dodging rain is still a argument. Its just not a skill argument.
No, Low-Mid is for major organ damage, High-Low covers minor. A non-fatal wound will just be healed by the spirits. He can also objectively thug out fatal wounds and fight the same, while getting stronger on account of Bloodshed DP, and then reset with Phoenix DP.
I specifically said "of that scale" based on Garou's dur neg. It requires Low-Mid or more.
People who sleep walk still get rest. Sleeping is a weird phenomenon that we don't really understand, but it somehow refreshes the brain, and that's all that really matters for mental endurance.
I mean it kinda is, it's just that it dosen't matter because if reinhard is rain dodging in the sense of dodging rain garou can rain-spam in the sense that he's able to attack things that move like rain while in a weakened version of a weaker key so "reinhard can rain odge therefore garou can't hit him!" isn't sustainable
It doesn't compare to Garou's RE.
bulls*** RE makes the stat boosts irrelevant
He was huffing and panting in chapter 162(?) was he not? That implies exhaustion.
The fight starts with Reinhard being amped so it starts with difference im speed. I just think Reinhard who is now faster than Garou defeats him before RE can take place.
I am pretty sure that was more frustration than exhaustion.
Uh no. His current stats already include those amps. It's not "speed is equal and then those amps apply the moment it starts".
Do we assume he'd just uh... phase through physical phenomenon if given a gap bigger or equal to that of rain?
This assumes he gets pass attack reflection, garous copying ability, garous myiad of other martial arts he could switch to on a dime to handle reinhards swordsmenship in the very short amount of time before garou blitz diffs
It isnt, and enough people, myself included, have argued as to why this is not a skill argument. It is still a feat that Reinhard performed, wether or not it matters in this match is for the knuckelheads here to argue out.
Reinhard's physical stats are about the same even when he loses his dp so to say it affected his current stats is not true, they never made a different. They just show an advantage when they are in a scenario like this.
Thats for the Rezero goobers to find out. I for sure do not grant them the "Its skill 4head" copeout.
I mean this is a bit odd but if a character achieves something supernatural through skill why does it not count as skill? Concept cutting is a skill many characters throughout fiction achieve with skill.
No. It just means not all of the divine protection amps are high.
He was malding while Saitama was balding
I don't agree, huffing and puffing is almost always a sign of being pushed to your limit, rather than one of being upset or angry. Your claim is that Garou does not physically tire which you haven't shown proof for, just a regen scan. This is entirely trumped by Reinhard being ceaseless on account of DPs making up for his limited stamina (which by itself still seems like better stamina than Garou's by the way).
It'd only be used a skill comparison against other skill-based conceptslop users.
Not really sure how Garou's sleepwalkong works but sleepwalking does not equal active sustained fighting, it typically happens during non REM deep sleep where the body is on autopilot but thw movements are usually simple and limited, fighting like a madman is nothing like that because jt requires continuous complex motor function and high brain activity which directly disrupts the restorative processes of sleep, so comparing a sleepwalker slowly pacing around to someone brawling nonstop is a false equivalence.
That seems like an arbitrary rule... but if that's true then okay
Oh no, he can still use his martial arts and etc.
Right but sleepwalking is only restful because the brain stays in deep non REM cycles while the body runs on autopilot. But if Garou’s pulling off full martial arts or coordinated strikes or defensea or techniques yada yada then that’s way beyond simple motor autopilot. That means his brain is actively engaged in high level processing and if the brain is active like that it’s not in a restorative sleep state. What i waa tryna say is Unconsciousness ≠ rest. That’s why anesthesia or even passing out doesn’t refresh you like real sleep does as you need proper sleep cycles. So if he’s genuinely fighting at that level while asleep, there’s no reason to assume he’s getting any actual rest from it.
Watch Puck vs Reinhard
Yeah and I'm saying while it isn't logically possible irl we can't just dismiss it as nothing so we can just equate it to dodging bullet hell danmaku, which is a viable skill feat it's just nothing compared to garou
... Why do you assume i agree with concept cutting being skill in the first place? Its the same contrived nonsense. In fact, you will find me break my back to justify rain dodging as skill before i will do so for that shit. Its not. And I have written an entire schizophrenia manifesto to argue this very point, but to keep it short.
