I hadn't considered it from that perspective.
Fair enough, that works.
Does Fairy Tail still need three votes, for the record?
no, it got removed from the controversial list, so it only needs 2 now
lets not get ahead of ourselves, this was just a downgrade thread that got rejected
Oh okay cool, so it can be closed.
Welp, time to flip it around with a new thread then
He literally says that he is going to return 400 years into the past to correct what will happen.
Granted, I agree with the idea of a reset if we accept that, but here he literally explains that he will only reset the entirety of the events that occurred over the last 400 years and that he will correct his mistakes from when he was not immortal.
As a result, he is literally admitting a contradiction with a Low 2-C rating, and thus the only possible interpretation is that he does not affect all the (instances) that make up the space-time continuum, but rather specific instances that already occurred at given moments in (time). This implies that he only affected three-dimensional space.
Additionally, I would like to remind that he is completely explicit regarding his statement. I also want to clarify that the universe page clearly explains that four-dimensional space encompasses the entirety of three-dimensional space.
This further reinforces the idea that Zeref does not deserve a Low 2-C rating based on this.
Firstly, it is significant to understand that a universe, including space-time continuums and timelines, encompasses all three-dimensional space that can be accessed through regular movement within the universe. This means that any location that can be theoretically reached through conventional means of travel, such as spaceflight, would be considered part of the same universe and timeline, regardless of how the fiction portrays it. Movement between universes should only be feasible through extraordinary modes of transportation, such as portals, higher-dimensional movement, or teleportation. By default, it is assumed that universes have separate three-dimensional spaces, but if a piece of fiction demonstrates otherwise, destruction of several connected timelines would be rated as Low 2-C (Universe level+).
Universe
The Universe is all of space and time and their contents, including planets, stars, galaxies, all forms of matter and energy. Due to the unknown spatial size of the universe, we use the size of the observable universe as a baseline for universal feats. The observable universe is currently...vsbattles.fandom.com
I’m going to give a short monologue to explain why the best rating we can give to Zeref is High 3-A, due to the fact that he did not affect all the instances that make up the temporal axis, and as we’ll see, why High 3-A is more appropriate for Zeref.
In the hierarchy, the prerequisites to be High 3-A are to manifest energy on a 3-D scale, such as creating or destroying infinite mass in a 3-D space. I will provide a panel to support this.
Before finishing, I’m not entirely convinced that High 3-A is perfect, but for now, this tier seems best for Zeref, and all characters who scale on him should also be lowered to this level. The rest is up to you.
Characters or objects that demonstrate an infinite amount of energy on a 3-D scale, such as creating or destroying infinite mass or affecting an infinite 3-D space. This extends to an infinite number of finite or infinite-sized 3-D universes or pocket dimensions when not accounting for any higher dimensions or time. Large numbers of infinite 3-D universes, unless causally closed from one another by a separate spacetime or existence, only count for a higher level of this tier. Being "infinitely" stronger than this level, unless uncountably so, does not qualify for any higher tier.
Tiering System
The following is a comprehensive overview of the hierarchical system the VS Battles Wiki utilizes to properly categorize and index fictional characters, entities, and objects based on the scale of their feats and the varying scopes that they can affect or create/destroy. Though Destructive...
Just about this, Elizhaa is 100% logically, but on the wiki, we don't scale something "less than the whole spacetime continuum" to be Low 2-C, but since it's from 2023, it's kinda understandable he stated this. It would just be High 3-A with layers ig, probably.
Since Fairy Tail isn't involved in this situation, there's no problem. If you want to read the article I wrote about resetting the Timeline or check out the related blog, you can do so.
I was just talking about that particular comment, rest I don't know much about the verse, so whatever is fine as long as this doesn't cause contradictions in the work really
