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Team Fortress 2 Upgrade and revision CTR (Tier 8/7 Upgrades and FTL speed)

I'm still slightly iffy on scaling the mercs this high, but it is a hell of a lot better than before, so I'd say High 8-C, possibly 8-B+ works for me (sorry in advance for ruining the formatting, it'll probably suck after this CRT ends lol)
also i think there's a way of making the calc a lil smaller in stats as it's not really vaporization as it leaves ashes on the ground, but i'll see when a calc eval sees it as i'm not really in the mood to do that.

So yeah, expect an slightly smaller value for the calc.
 
He can tank tank an hit on vsh of the weapon, don't got any footage on me but saxton spawns with 1000 health i belive and the weapon does no where near to one shot him.

but hale shouldn't scale to saxton punch in dura.

Also the mercs do have ways of getting crits on commands in MVM (canteens), should we do a value for that too?
Ah, healthbar scaling. Lovely Game Mechanics.

Saxton Punch is something done by hale physically that doesn't harm him, so yeah he'd scale to it in durability.
 
should i delete something in the main thread? Idk i have the feeling that it's rather chunky of informations
 
Ah, healthbar scaling. Lovely Game Mechanics.
REJECT MODERN POWERSCALING, EMBRACE 2014 POWERSCALING

Point is that he's superior to the mercs and it isn't really bothered by it.

Yeah, the gun is pretty much stated to be below him anyway
Saxton Punch is something done by hale physically that doesn't harm him, so yeah he'd scale to it in durability.
ok, seems fine to me
 
Ah, healthbar scaling. Lovely Game Mechanics.

Saxton Punch is something done by hale physically that doesn't harm him, so yeah he'd scale to it in durability.
I’m like 90% sure we don’t scale dura to pure ap amps like this, as it often causes inconsistencies and circular scaling
 
I’m like 90% sure we don’t scale dura to pure ap amps like this, as it often causes inconsistencies and circular scaling
Idk about that as Hale really doesn't scale to no one exept high tiers, and even then the high tiers are still below Hale's dura
 
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"Since the dawn of time, Man has gazed warily with fear and contempt into the cosmos. One luminescent beacon in particular has looked back, gliding and heckling us like a giant white space jerk, the Moon. Now, thanks to the ingenious contrivers at Goliathon, we have at our disposal a means of heckling back and then some! This imperious metal behemoth will make a superb center-piece to any laboratory or lounge and allows you to begin a well-rounded bombardment of any Moon habitation you fancy, all from a comfy chair. Small-man syndrome or a mid-life crisis are easily counteracted with this beauty, and have we mentioned destruction? The Moon Hater is second to none in sheer annihilatory potential. Factoids in its easily digested three thousand page manual suggest that it is capable of obliterating a section of Bolivian rain forest twenty-two miles square, jaguars and all! All that adds up to some earnest Moon-murdering fun!"

There is still hope for Moon Level TF2.
The argument is this: The Yeti upscales any weapon made from earth right? well, Apparentally this thing exist and it was found in Dr Grodbort's Website. Its where the laser weapons came from (Yes, the weapons was a collab all along), Its debatable that this "Universe" is connected to the TF2 Verse. Because of the weapons coming from the collab and references from the website being in the comics.
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Theres even more details about the manmelter:
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Im sure you guys can figure it out to make it work
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Problem is another, the weapon it's sold in the Dr Grodbort's Universe and not in the TF2 one.
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Well.. I guess you can argue that the laser weapons that were made from the Dr Grodbart's Universe were later selling in their own universe yes, but later the weapons themselves are getting sent to the TF2 Universe...
Which does make the laser weapons and the moon hater more stronger than the yeti, considering these weapons are not even from the TF2 earth or universe. (But You could also argue this as a cosmology feat, Considering there is a statement about a 5 dimension aka 5 universes from a cosmetic.)
 
Also I realized that the manmelter literally blitzes aliens and people. (In Lord Cockswain - On the Application of Rayguns)
So use this to prove the laser weapons not being slow with a grain of salt
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Also I realized that the manmelter literally blitzes aliens and people. (In Lord Cockswain - On the Application of Rayguns)
So use this to prove the laser weapons not being slow with a grain of salt
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we don't have much evidence against of SOL/FTL weapons attack speed per se... the mercs won't scale to them as their weapons are on the mach 1/5 range, but the weapons speed won't really be affected in dr.grogbort weaponry case.

(also, where do u find all these comics? i couldn't find them in the site)
 
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At this point, I think it's best to create a separate tab in the Merc profile with a scale just for weapons.
should we devide stock/optional equipment/Dr.Grogbort weapons?


Is there any way of calculating the destruction in meet the pyro? He did burn to the ground a small town in like a cupple of minutes.

Or when he burned the city of twofort, is there a way of calculating burning feats?
 
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also it has came to my attention that the Cowmangler 5000 feat was done with a mini-crits upgrade applied, so that means that the base damage of the feat is 54,6 tons of tnt (City-block level).

so more consistency in that tier of power.

I'll correct it later as I'm at school at the moment.
 
we don't have much evidence against of SOL/FTL weapons attack speed per se... the mercs won't scale to them as their weapons are on the mach 1/5 range, but the weapons speed won't really be affected in dr.grogbort weaponry case.

(also, where do u find all these comics? i couldn't find them in the site)
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There are interesting feats for the laser weapons in that universe, Such as The "Unnatural Selector Pin" being capable of disintegrating a hole of a giant alien
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Or him just straight up blowing up a creature
 
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Oh yeah here is a timeframe of the same weapon that he used goes VERY FAST
There is many destruction feats in that video, That I recommend to calculate (even the manmelter was there)
 
Oh yeah here is a timeframe of the same weapon that he used goes VERY FAST
There is many destruction feats in that video, That I recommend to calculate (even the manmelter was there)
oh yeah, ive calculated that too, idk if i still got the blog somewhere on my profile but it wasn't too impressive.

From my resoults it came on about Mach 1.67 or something similar.

I was surprised too but the distance that came out was of about 26/27 meters.
 
oh yeah, ive calculated that too, idk if i still got the blog somewhere on my profile but it wasn't too impressive.

From my resoults it came on about Mach 1.67 or something similar.

I was surprised too but the distance that came out was of about 26/27 meters.
I was referring about the fact he shot a alien from the clouds lol-
 
if we assume the minimum distance ground/clouds (2 km) and putting an high end of 1/60 fps for the video feat we do get that the speed was of about 125000 m/s or mach 364 (Hypersonething+ idk)

but honestly, most of these weapons are confirmed Sol anyway and even if it was a different case we would still run upon inconsistency problem with the mach 3/5 state that the verse is massivly more consistent with (for combat speed).
 
if we assume the minimum distance ground/clouds (2 km) and putting an high end of 1/60 fps for the video feat we do get that the speed was of about 125000 m/s or mach 364 (Hypersonething+ idk)
My calc is only 171,450 m/s lmao (The video is only 25 fps bro)
 
@DaReaperMan @Rex_Eckles Ok so, i've noticed that the cow mangler feat was performed using mini-crits, so i had to retract the 1.35 times boost from the feat and we do have more consistency with 8-B+ equipment for the mercs.

So tier 7 stuff that scales to the mercs physicals is officially out of the table.
 
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