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TF2 God should probably upscale it
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Team Fortress 2 Upgrade and revision CTR (Tier 8/7 Upgrades and FTL speed)
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Prolly, there isn't a profile for him yet
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I finally found the way to do this calc somewhat properly, so might aswell add it to the next ctr.
Worst case scenario we get Massivly Hypersonic high tiers and an higher class M calc.
Best case scenario Multi city block level calc, Sub-relativistic speed and Class P ls for high tiers.
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also, dont we have like town level to city level arguments?
Its accepted
Its accepted
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it's already in the crt bruh
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yeah don't worry bra, you ain't the first
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don't you got any quake feats or feats that get into the city block range as supportive?
I would have liked to calc something like that
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Cow Mangler vaporizes cow.
Uradial50
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Oh yeah the Shooting Star from Sniper stated "Turn your enemies into ash!"
and theres a clip of it turning a scout and enginner turning into ash at once
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Vaporization of the average human is 4638.75 j/cc.
Let's say the weapon best capacity of killing is 9 people (as there are 9 classes in tf2).
The average human man is 75.4 kg after a quick google search, we multiply that by 1000 and we find that the volume of the average man is 75.400 cc.
75.400*9 = 678.600 cc * 4638,75 = 3.147.855.750 Joules or 0.75 tons of tnt (Building level)
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It's only capable of killing 2 people at once sadly.
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That might be because it's hard to dodge compressed air, besides it'd probably result in circular scaling.
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You can still dodge smth like that in FTL reaction speed
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it was rejected, here in this thread, by quiete literally everyone that has put foot in here.
So we are just getting Supersonic+/Hypersonic at the moment for tf2.
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yeah, it was declared as an outlier.
U could check the discussion if u want, it's prolly in the middle of the thread
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Wouldnt the pyro managing to airblast a cow mangler 5000 projectile make it consistent with him airblasting bonk scout?
despite him being implied to be an alien from dr grodborts universe
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nope.
Also Bonk just gives scout immense reaction speed, not travel speed, so it means nothing.
Beacause at the end of the day, one thing is dodging a laser and another is being pushed by something u really can't dodge without having to move in another place (airblast in this case).
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btw @LandonTheGuy Why does the TF2 mercs not scale to the laser weapons?
"So not only is there no efficient evidence that the tf2 mercs dont scale to any of the weapons they use in the gravel wars, but it's a very consistent notion that the mercs are able to tank weapons utilised in the gravel wars this is supported by the game, comics and cinematics, so to say that the mercs can't scale to atom weapons simply because we just can't imagine them doing so would be an argument from incredulity. the argument that goardbord humans can't tank ray weapons isn't sufficient either as not only is gordborts canonicity to TF2 really shaky but it's at best a alternate dimension where the extra ordinary rules of TF2s wacky world wouldn't necessarily transfer over, especially since TF2 humans and the mercs are very extra ordinary in their capabilities (such as tanking normally fatal wounds, weapons that would normally one shot or gravely injure normal humans and preforming things such as rocket jumping which is quite a stark contrast to goardborts more fantastical Sci-fi elements but still somewhat grounded nature) Overall there is no real reason the mercs shouldn't scale or at least downscale the atom weapons and them doing so doesnt exactly break what is considered believable for TF2s already extraordinary supernatural world."
"So not only is there no efficient evidence that the tf2 mercs dont scale to any of the weapons they use in the gravel wars, but it's a very consistent notion that the mercs are able to tank weapons utilised in the gravel wars this is supported by the game, comics and cinematics, so to say that the mercs can't scale to atom weapons simply because we just can't imagine them doing so would be an argument from incredulity. the argument that goardbord humans can't tank ray weapons isn't sufficient either as not only is gordborts canonicity to TF2 really shaky but it's at best a alternate dimension where the extra ordinary rules of TF2s wacky world wouldn't necessarily transfer over, especially since TF2 humans and the mercs are very extra ordinary in their capabilities (such as tanking normally fatal wounds, weapons that would normally one shot or gravely injure normal humans and preforming things such as rocket jumping which is quite a stark contrast to goardborts more fantastical Sci-fi elements but still somewhat grounded nature) Overall there is no real reason the mercs shouldn't scale or at least downscale the atom weapons and them doing so doesnt exactly break what is considered believable for TF2s already extraordinary supernatural world."
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U mean for just the vaporization ones or the sub-atomization ones too?
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Both
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The mercs physically scale to about the first 4 feats in the ap section, so Vaporization weapons are consistently shown to be not too much far off to their physical scaling.
However there's a massive gap of about 2.015.331,355093966 times with the last value they scale (cowmangler feat).
So it falls as an outlier for the Sub-Atomization weapons due of the stat gap, while for the Vaporization weapons it doesn't as we got 3 feats in the 8-B ranges.
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Did you put this on the CRT promotion thread?
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let me do it now lol
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i think it would be best at the moment to wait for the evaluation of the tank calc so we don't make waste time to ppl
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"What exactly contradicts the mercenaries being the strong, especially with everything I have established from my message?"
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Because unless you got a scale of feats that support the mercs being a nuclear level threat, that would be an outlier for now.
Look, we can try higher stuff for the mercs in another CTR, at the moment let's just get 8-B mercs.
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probably due their anti feats and what the other member said but i think that tier 8 mercs seem fine for now radial until we can create anothe update thread
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Its from one my friends response
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Pretty much this
Regarding that, surprisingly i think that other 1/2 ctr will be done regarding speed and ap for high tiers.
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bump
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bump
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@Plants_vs_zombies_fan101 @Uradial50 @Rex_Eckles
Apology for the inactivity in this period due of the evaluation of the tank vaporization calc (this one), so considering that there are some more supportive feats for tier 7 tf2 (only high tiers).
In a short version (considering that i've noticed that i tend to drag messages), considering that some other calc evaluation is needed at this point do you mind if i add these calcs to the thread in the wait that they get all evaluated.
Apology for the inactivity in this period due of the evaluation of the tank vaporization calc (this one), so considering that there are some more supportive feats for tier 7 tf2 (only high tiers).
In a short version (considering that i've noticed that i tend to drag messages), considering that some other calc evaluation is needed at this point do you mind if i add these calcs to the thread in the wait that they get all evaluated.
- Aliens melt the statue of Liberty - 42,4424 Tons of tnt (City clock level)
- Aliens pulverize the piramids - 119.233 Kilotons (Large Town level)
- All of earth's nukes can move the moon - 776.562 teratons of TNT (Large Country)
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Who would scale to the spaceship speed? Also, 0.1 c is Relativistic.
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They did say that they casually destroyed the ships, i think the average australian provably upscales the weapons that were capable do pulverizing the pyramids.
In the other hand, there isn't much that says that they caught up with the ships themself
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It's a tad vague.
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